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CAPT Stream Rotar
05-03-2007, 05:04 PM
its by far one of the best small rotar heads out there today..We use them in New England, they stand the test of time with the winter around here...
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/2220/dscn0446pu4.jpg

i hope i got the image compression right on this one..so the bandwidth police dont come after me!

Pretty dolphins/view...
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CAPT Stream Rotar
05-03-2007, 05:34 PM
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5323/dscn0425le5.jpg

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zone of drip and the 765 PVB
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me and my company's work
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a different kind of flush valve than we use...
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not sure how the filter reducer got there to the side..but my boss put it in and he knows his stuff so i dont argue....
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neatly placed valve boxes
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a neat valve box
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thats a good installer
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bobw
05-03-2007, 06:11 PM
I'm gonna bite....

I'm pretty mixed on the 3500s. I LOVE the idea of them. They are the right distance for the smaller yards we typically have here. The spray pattern seems to be pretty good, nice even fan shape.

So why am I mixed? Mainly due to some pretty spotty quality control issues on them with Rainbird. There was the quiet recall of them last spring for a bit. No real reason given, but my supplier asked for all of them on my trailer and swapped them for new ones. I'd feel a lot better about them if I'd been given some solid reason for the recall and what the fix was. As it is, I've still got lots of them in the ground that I worry about. I'm finding that they seem to lose rotation at a pretty high rate, and I've had a number of them come out of the box with the arc adjustment screw jammed.

Last year's quality issues saw me dropping hundreds of MP Rotators in the ground instead of 3500's. Once I get through "start up season" I'll have a better feel for this year's crop of 3500's. If the "out of the box" issues seem to be cleared up, I'll go back to using them; if not, I'll be stocking up on the MP Rotators...

sheshovel
05-03-2007, 06:13 PM
Just asking for the guys to give you a hard time about posting up pics of sprinklers running aren't you? Very nice lawn, you did good.

CAPT Stream Rotar
05-03-2007, 06:21 PM
I'm gonna bite....

I'm pretty mixed on the 3500s. I LOVE the idea of them. They are the right distance for the smaller yards we typically have here. The spray pattern seems to be pretty good, nice even fan shape.

So why am I mixed? Mainly due to some pretty spotty quality control issues on them with Rainbird. There was the quiet recall of them last spring for a bit. No real reason given, but my supplier asked for all of them on my trailer and swapped them for new ones. I'd feel a lot better about them if I'd been given some solid reason for the recall and what the fix was. As it is, I've still got lots of them in the ground that I worry about. I'm finding that they seem to lose rotation at a pretty high rate, and I've had a number of them come out of the box with the arc adjustment screw jammed.

Last year's quality issues saw me dropping hundreds of MP Rotators in the ground instead of 3500's. Once I get through "start up season" I'll have a better feel for this year's crop of 3500's. If the "out of the box" issues seem to be cleared up, I'll go back to using them; if not, I'll be stocking up on the MP Rotators...

Yikes...Yhea The only thing i would change on them is that plastic F@cking screw they adjust with....it should be stainless steel...I wonder why that recall was quiet? i have had a lot of them that were right stops instead of left stops..for a while last summer it seemed there were 2 or three in every case...
oh well cant win them all..i once in a while get the pgp with left stops and i get all flustered.
lol the life of a pup

Mike Leary
05-03-2007, 06:22 PM
Oh I LOVE to see sprinklers work!.....I learn SOOOO much! Could you post pics of your engine compartment or close-ups of tire wear?
The 3500 & PGJ are about (imho) the only medium range heads we have available, sprinkler god knows we tormented Rain-Bird & Hunter @ I.A. for
years to even have them! MP Rotators nice but the slow percipitation rate
is hard on us that have "water windows". You can't always get what you want.

CAPT Stream Rotar
05-03-2007, 06:47 PM
Oh I LOVE to see sprinklers work!.....I learn SOOOO much! Could you post pics of your engine compartment or close-ups of tire wear?
The 3500 & PGJ are about (imho) the only medium range heads we have available, sprinkler god knows we tormented Rain-Bird & Hunter @ I.A. for
years to even have them! MP Rotators nice but the slow percipitation rate
is hard on us that have "water windows". You can't always get what you want.

duely noted about the working pictures of sprinklers....
i know you irrigatiOWN heathens want install pics but im doing turn-ons'(which suck) right now....as for the 3500, its our company personal preference..We all know those MIni8's are horrible after that recall a few years ago......

*trucewhiteflag*

PurpHaze
05-03-2007, 11:11 PM
MP Rotators nice but the slow percipitation rate
is hard on us that have "water windows".

Double/triple/quadruple up the zones (depending on controller) and you'll come out ahead on water time. You can also put them on a separate program to run simultaneously with other sprinkler zones if your main supply allows the additional GPM. :)

lehrjetmx
05-04-2007, 09:30 AM
Hey,
Used the 3500's alot in the past usually my first choice in resid work but my supplier ran dry last year due to Rainbird and some issues with design or something like that. Are they back on the production line again. Haven't made it to the supply house yet stocked up at the end of last year for start ups.

CAPT Stream Rotar
05-04-2007, 07:39 PM
Hey,
Used the 3500's alot in the past usually my first choice in resid work but my supplier ran dry last year due to Rainbird and some issues with design or something like that. Are they back on the production line again. Haven't made it to the supply house yet stocked up at the end of last year for start ups.

TMI has cases of them up in new england

Mike Leary
05-04-2007, 08:10 PM
Double/triple/quadruple up the zones (depending on controller) and you'll come out ahead on water time. You can also put them on a separate program to run simultaneously with other sprinkler zones if your main supply allows the additional GPM. :)

Point was the low precip. nozzles can eat run times...ganging zones implies
the same app. rate/sun/shade..what is your next hobby?

PurpHaze
05-05-2007, 01:03 AM
Point was the low precip. nozzles can eat run times...ganging zones implies
the same app. rate/sun/shade..what is your next hobby?

I'll bet you a Lawn Genie that one MPR zone's run time will be quite similar to another's regardless of what you think your particular micro-climate is. :)

koster_irrigation
05-05-2007, 07:01 AM
the 3500's have a new rubber cover standard