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EdTLawn
05-22-2007, 11:11 PM
This summer I made it my commitment to get a good or better lawn, it has been neglected for the past couple of years and mainly it gets cutted every 2 weeks and fertilized once every spring. This spring I found that it is full of dandelions, clovers and violets and there are patches with some sort of green fugus. I have manually dug up most of the dandelions and sprayed 5% vinegar on the clovers. What is a good herbicide and fertilizer to use and since I am in Quebec where most of the effective products with 2, 4-D have been banned there is very little selection on what I can get.

RigglePLC
05-23-2007, 08:20 AM
Call Weed Man. Costs more--but you get a lot better results. A well-trained expert, with proper equipment, and products, and with treatments planned at the correct time of year--is what you need.

lilmarvin4064
05-23-2007, 12:38 PM
is there somwhere a list of chemicals that you can't use? I tried to do a search but couldn't find one.

EdTLawn
05-23-2007, 01:41 PM
is there somwhere a list of chemicals that you can't use? I tried to do a search but couldn't find one.

I have a neighbour that was so feed up, he dug up his lawn and planted the whole thing with clovers, doesn't even have to mow it ...LoL

Basically these are the herbicides that are banned:
2,4-D (all chemical forms)
Chlorthal dimethyl
MCPA (all chemical forms)
Mecoprop (all chemical forms)

http://www.mddep.gouv.qc.ca/pesticides/permis-en/code-gestion-en/index.htm

Heres some articles on the ban:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2006/04/03/qc-herb20060403.html\\
http://www.toxicsinfo.org/environment/Quebec.htm

Ha ...heres the government's solution for us ! tolerate weeds ?
http://www.ns.ec.gc.ca/epb/factsheets/12_steps.html

lilmarvin4064
05-23-2007, 03:30 PM
If those are the only ones banned then you are in luck. I'm surprised there aren't more chemicals on that list. I would bet the hard part would be for you to find these products.

Quicksilver (carfentrazone-ethyl)
Octane (pyraflufen-ethyl)
Dismiss (sulfentrazone)

Spotlight (fluroxypyr)
Turflon (triclopyr)
Banvel (dicamba)

EdTLawn
05-23-2007, 06:42 PM
If those are the only ones banned then you are in luck. I'm surprised there aren't more chemicals on that list. I would bet the hard part would be for you to find these products.

Quicksilver (carfentrazone-ethyl)
Octane (pyraflufen-ethyl)
Dismiss (sulfentrazone)

Spotlight (fluroxypyr)
Turflon (triclopyr)
Banvel (dicamba)

Any preferences to that list ?

At least now I have a target and go in for the kill ! ..LoL

It seems like no big chain garden and hardware stores are carrying any of those, most have non-selective sprays such as Round-Up, Scotts and CIL Wipe-Out.

americanlawn
05-23-2007, 08:14 PM
EdTlawn -- lots of good info from members.

I say, fertilize often & use an ester formulation herbicide (if it's legal in your area) >> it will easily kill even the dificult weeds. Then be prepared to mow often with a sharp blade. This should give you a nice lawn.

Keep in mind that ester formulations of herbicides may be 3 times more costly than amines, but it's worth it.

Consider aerating & overseeding iwith Kentucky bluegrass in eartly fall too?? Good luck my North American cousin.

EdTLawn
05-24-2007, 01:48 AM
Thanks for the encouragement !

I took some photos of what I am seeing when I am raking to aeriate the soil. Can anyone tell me what this stuff is ? looks like some sort of fungus or something.

http://www.supload.us/thumbs/default/Lawn07_001.jpg (http://www.supload.us/free/Lawn07_001.jpg/view/)
http://www.supload.us/thumbs/default/Lawn07_002.jpg (http://www.supload.us/free/Lawn07_002.jpg/view/)