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lsu03
06-13-2007, 08:30 AM
this f150 was driving next to me and then it speeds up and i see a trailer hooked to it. on the trailer was a crapsman riding mower with the front duct taped on, an electric weedeater with extension cord, a broom maybe two feet wide, and a old crapsman push mower. i just laughed

Tim Wright
06-13-2007, 08:49 AM
I would not laugh seriously. The man has to start somewhere, and maybe he wants to start with no debt (which is preferrable yet difficult). He may very well be your best competition in a year or two, who knows.

Tim

jeremy067390
06-13-2007, 09:04 AM
i assume you drive a brand new dump with a 24 foot enclosed and 8 z turns inside? all financed huh? i started with a belt 48. now i have a 60 z, 2 52 hydros, still the 48. a dump and an 02 7.3 ford which is the only thing i didnt pay cash for. one of the biggest guys in my area was telling me how he started with a ford taurus. chances r the guy you saw is hungrier than u. althoughi gotta say there has to be something better then an electric trimmer lol

Horsepower Lawns
06-13-2007, 11:06 AM
I have seen a man with an old Wheel Horse (1960s), 4x4 dump cart (the kind that the mower pulls), with a gas can, trimmer, and push mower in it. He just mowes near his house.

You have to start someplace.

fargoboy
06-13-2007, 11:38 AM
Heck, I started with a blind three legged goat, Abraham Lincoln's shovel, and a branch of leaves

Grits
06-13-2007, 11:45 AM
I would not laugh seriously. The man has to start somewhere, and maybe he wants to start with no debt (which is preferrable yet difficult). He may very well be your best competition in a year or two, who knows.
Tim

Or he may decide to recycle all the Natural Light cans under his trailer and never have to work again, who knows.

fargoboy
06-13-2007, 11:55 AM
I forgot about the oxcart

fiveoboy01
06-13-2007, 01:48 PM
That's nothing.

Last week I saw 2 Mexicans driving a late 90s-ish dodge intrepid with TWO Lawnboy pushmowers sticking out of the trunk:)

hdhillin
06-13-2007, 01:53 PM
Maybe you should offer him some productive professional advice. Why must one BASH others?

KS_Grasscutter
06-13-2007, 01:53 PM
I have seen a man with an old Wheel Horse (1960s), 4x4 dump cart (the kind that the mower pulls), with a gas can, trimmer, and push mower in it. He just mowes near his house.

You have to start someplace.

That is exactly how I started out, only I was using an old Dixon 30" ZTR.

RedMax Man
06-13-2007, 01:57 PM
I see people all the time with mowers and stuf in ther trunk or on a trailer, it doesn't always meen they are an LCO.

I saw a guy in a big GMC dually pickup pulling a little trailer with a Phazer sized Toro mower on it. He had some barrels and other stuff in the bed.

I saw a Dodge pickup at a gas station pulling a trailer with 2 or 3 Crapsman sized lawn tractors and plywood racks holding trimmers and blowers.

Saw another one with a conversion van pulling a small trailer with lawn stuff.

Not everyone can start with the perfect setup and most don't so you have to start somewhere. I do agree when you see a crazy looking rig it just grabs your attention.

BlueShieldLawnCare
06-13-2007, 02:15 PM
A wise man in the business for the last 30 years once told me, "There's enough lawns out there for everyone." So maybe we SHOULD all offer each other helpful advise, throw business each other's way wehn possible, etc.

Liquidfast
06-13-2007, 04:27 PM
I got you all beat.

I started with a crapsman 21 incher......it broke down, I took it back to sears and they gave me a helluva time. I finally exchanged it for a new one (I beat the snot outta it) and my first back pack blower was a ...............
























HOMELITE!


I was even more embarrassed in my 1992 ford f 150 that smoked outta every hole in the exhaust....lol. I couldnt even afford the planks to load the damn thing and would load and unload by hand.

Fast forward to today......I pretty much beat everyone that laughed at me.

razor1
06-13-2007, 04:50 PM
this f150 was driving next to me and then it speeds up and i see a trailer hooked to it. on the trailer was a crapsman riding mower with the front duct taped on, an electric weedeater with extension cord, a broom maybe two feet wide, and a old crapsman push mower. i just laughed


Maybe the guy was a bored lawnsite moderator trying to get some feedback. :laugh:

02DURAMAX
06-13-2007, 07:00 PM
this f150 was driving next to me and then it speeds up and i see a trailer hooked to it. on the trailer was a crapsman riding mower with the front duct taped on, an electric weedeater with extension cord, a broom maybe two feet wide, and a old crapsman push mower. i just laughed

hey everyone has to start somewere!!....stop bashing people.:hammerhead:

lawnboy dan
06-13-2007, 07:19 PM
i saw a mercedes pulling a homemade wood trailer full of homedepot euiptment the otherday

slclawn
06-13-2007, 07:22 PM
Hey i started with a craftsman 14.5 hp 42 cut trailer and a car. Now i have three john deere z tracks a john deere walk behind. You know what i still have that craftsman and when i used it i was proud of it and my work. But i did wish i could have had something better and now i do and they are paid for with long hours blood sweet and yes tears. Maybe we should think before we talk.:weightlifter: :weightlifter:

johnwon
06-13-2007, 08:38 PM
The electric trimmer may be a good way to save on gas & 2 cycle mix......never know he may be on to something there.

scchamblee
06-13-2007, 08:43 PM
Last week I was mowing my Uncle's Insuranse office with my 797, 12' trailer, and my 1/2 ton 2000 chevy Reg cab 2WD(the only thing I own) with 173,000 miles and no A/C(the compressor went out and I haven't had a free day to leave it at the shop). When i notice that a new person is cutting the Hardee's next to it. He had a worn out push mower, and a worn out curved shaft trimmer, driving a brand new crew cab Toyota. I smiled and went on cutting.... Later that day i drove by and he was still there... this time trimming the shrubs with an electric hedger using their electricity.... I laughed and drove on. I am gonna be there cutting tommorrow and I am gonna stop in and see the manager and see if they want it done professionally with insurance.

lsu03
06-13-2007, 09:14 PM
http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=189521

how come no one was accused of bashing there? i was stating what i saw and i thought it was funny. yes everyone starts somewhere so dont act like i dont know that

Neal's Lawn Service
06-13-2007, 09:17 PM
this f150 was driving next to me and then it speeds up and i see a trailer hooked to it. on the trailer was a crapsman riding mower with the front duct taped on, an electric weedeater with extension cord, a broom maybe two feet wide, and a old crapsman push mower. i just laughed

Why would you laugh?

rodfather
06-13-2007, 10:12 PM
to each their own

McCarty'sLawncare
06-13-2007, 10:20 PM
I got something better. I saw a beat up geo metro hatch back. With a yard machine push mower. Tied up on top of the roof of the car. I asked him how does he get it down? He said he rolls it off the back window. Beat that one folks... : )

Darrin A.
06-13-2007, 10:32 PM
Why would you laugh?

Why not? The picture Isu03 put in my head was funny. And for those who want to know why he is bashing this guy, I read his original post 3 times, not once did it seem to me he was bashing the guy.
I actually find it funnier to see a well established LCO with 2 61" Zs on the trailer and nothing for gates. To me, that's funy.

MOturkey
06-13-2007, 11:32 PM
I've seen a guy here in town a few times driving a Cadillac Escalade pulling one of those all aluminum trailers with a brand new Z in it. Somehow, I don't think he is a LCO. :)

Roger
06-13-2007, 11:40 PM
How do you know he was doing lawn work for hire? The implication in the initial post suggest this is the case. Perhaps he was taking his equipment to his mother's house to work at her house. Or, perhaps he was going to take care of somebody's lawn who is unable to do so, and unable to pay for a contractor. Do you know more information that has not yet been shared?

I too am guilty of drawing conclusions and making improper judgments about another's plans or motives.

fargoboy
06-13-2007, 11:41 PM
did I mention that I had to use the clothesline on the ox. Wife couldn't wash mondays till thursday cause I was cutting grass

EX-DOORMAT
06-14-2007, 01:21 AM
Why are they bashing him? I guess I gotta be the one to tell it like it is. In some instances, its bad enough being a "lawnboy" in some peoples eyes. Then, some fly by nighter or schmoe cuts grass out of his car and I am 100% positive he is not charging top dollar and it brings our rates and image down. I see real LCOs driving with a crapsman lawn tractor....or worse, cutting with one. That to me is pathetic.

Richard Martin
06-14-2007, 06:00 AM
I see a whole lot of that here where I live. Sometimes they're mowing for money but more often than not they're headed to mom's house to cut her grass.

Sandgropher
06-14-2007, 06:39 AM
Maybe the guy was a bored lawnsite moderator trying to get some feedback. :laugh:

So you have seen Charles outfit as well ? ;)

MeadowsLawnCare
06-14-2007, 06:50 AM
Why are they bashing him? I guess I gotta be the one to tell it like it is. In some instances, its bad enough being a "lawnboy" in some peoples eyes. Then, some fly by nighter or schmoe cuts grass out of his car and I am 100% positive he is not charging top dollar and it brings our rates and image down. I see real LCOs driving with a crapsman lawn tractor....or worse, cutting with one. That to me is pathetic.

So we should all go thousands in debt to start our business so we can give a "good image" to the business?

tat900
06-14-2007, 10:31 AM
I guess I dont understand either . I did not start out with a a ztr . I started out with my 36" used proline walk behind redmax trimmer and echo back bapck and worked my way up till I could justify my 717a. Im not goin into major debt to make my self look the biggest. I also dont knock anyone trying to work with whatever they have. I guess some guys love to make thereselves look better by knocking down some guy trying to work. I will tell you there was a lady prolly 15 years ago started cutting with some 21" mowers and now she is running a huge crew and I respect that becasue she worked her way up . So keep bashing guys and your not the only one who does it and if it makes ya feel better then karma will catch ya

craigs lawncare
06-14-2007, 11:26 AM
this f150 was driving next to me and then it speeds up and i see a trailer hooked to it. on the trailer was a crapsman riding mower with the front duct taped on, an electric weedeater with extension cord, a broom maybe two feet wide, and a old crapsman push mower. i just laughed

I just think it is a joke.
I am sure this guy the OP is speaking of is insured... :dizzy: Yea right...
Here in Michigan, I am seeing a lot of this. Single axle trailer with a garden type tractor or two, string trimmer(s) and a leaf blower being pulled by the family mini van or car. Push mowers stuffed into the trunk of the family car with the handle sticking out is always a good laugh despite what many of you on here say.
Perhaps what I am witnessing here is just a rash of good hearted people headed for their parents or a family members house to cut the grass... :dizzy: but I doubt it.
While most of you have chimed in against the OP, you have to realize, these fly by nighters are bringing down your prices. I don't know about you guys, but I have worked hard to get my prices to the point that they are at and it is aggravating as hell to see these guys coming out of the woodwork bidding lawn work and they don't have a clue as to how.

To the OP... yeah, I am with ya buddy. I laugh at these jokers every second I can.

Craig

T.E.
06-14-2007, 11:57 AM
I don't worry about other peoples rigs they may need grocery money, or something else. There is in our town an older man, retired preacher in fact that is in his 80's. He mows 50+ lawns a week because his SSI is not enough for his wife's medication. I don't want to bash anyone for trying, at least if they're trying they're not on welfare. JMO

fiveoboy01
06-14-2007, 03:38 PM
So we should all go thousands in debt to start our business so we can give a "good image" to the business?


It literally costs thousands to start virtually ANY business.

Being a legit LCO is no exception.

T.E.
06-14-2007, 04:46 PM
It literally costs thousands to start virtually ANY business.

Being a legit LCO is no exception.

I'm legit, and have friends that are legit, and it didn't cost "thousands"
to start my business. :confused:

fiveoboy01
06-14-2007, 06:45 PM
Really? Do you carry a 21", trimmer and blower on your back to each job?

How about your truck/trailer, accountant, insurance, paper, pens, envelopes, stamps, your administrative time, blowers/trimmers, extra blades, and the list goes on and on.

T.E.
06-14-2007, 08:02 PM
Really? Do you carry a 21", trimmer and blower on your back to each job?

How about your truck/trailer, accountant, insurance, paper, pens, envelopes, stamps, your administrative time, blowers/trimmers, extra blades, and the list goes on and on.

"Really"

I vote for you to be the next Federal Reserve Chairman. :laugh:

Those things are necessary, for operating a business, but I didn't need "ALL" of them to "START" the business.

fiveoboy01
06-14-2007, 08:10 PM
So they're necessary for the business to operate, but you don't need them to start the business? Isn't that a bit contradictory?

Anyways I don't want to go back and forth, it did cost me several thousand to start up because I did it the right way.

And to the original poster whom I quoted, you don't have to incur all of that as debt. You can do like I did, and save capital ahead of time.

David Hartzog
06-14-2007, 08:25 PM
dang! ya'll have learned nothing from me! rember crazy dave the taco bell guy started out with a push mower bungee corded in the back of his FORD ESCORT...im doing pretty good after 7 years! watch out for that guy!

americanlawn
06-14-2007, 08:27 PM
These posts were great! On one hand -- this seems like one of those "redneck jokes". One the other hand....I understand (I was raised by Depression-era farm parents). Just so nobody pokes fun at someone trying to earn an income, cuz at least they're working instead of relying on taxpayers to foot their bills. Nice post -- thanks!

MeadowsLawnCare
06-14-2007, 08:28 PM
So im licensed and insured, i have all the necessary things to start a business. But my trailer has pits in it from rust, one rim is white one is black and it has a wooden gate. I have a husky $50 mower as backup which is just as bad as craftsman. Im maybe 2k in debt with the equipment i have, which I only own one commercial machine.My truck is my winter vehicle so thats not really a business expense. I am sure that some guys that have 50k invested in their rig drives by and laughs at me from what my whole setup looks like compared to his. Does that mean im leaving a bad image for the business? I have no need for a bigger trailer, i have no need for a bigger mower. I bought the equipment i needed to start my business and handle the jobs. When i land more accounts I will grow as needed. In the end it all comes down to a great job at a fair market price, regardless of what equipment you use. Sure my 21"s will crap out since there not commercial, but for now there doing what i require of them. Same with my other non commercial equipment

lsu03
06-15-2007, 08:54 AM
when did i ever bash him??????? :confused: i simply told you what he had and i thought it was funny b/c his mower was taped together and he had a broom. and when did i ever say this guy was an lco. some people jump to conclusion too quickly.....................:nono:


:waving:

coonman
06-15-2007, 10:35 AM
Too many times everyone on here is getting caught up in what equipment somebody is using instead of the finished product. A couple of years ago my partner found a Troybuilt (non commercial) 26inch 3speed at garage sale. I think he got it for $100. We used it several times a day for almost the entire season before it finally gave out. At the time we had a few Toro 21's and a 36inch Stander. The cut was better than the Stander and very close to the Toro. Actually we got to the point of hardly ever even using the Stander, because of gate issues and ease of use of the Troy Built. Maybe other LCO's would laugh at us when they saw us using the Troy Built, but are customers we very happy with the end result and so were we.