Need Help Fast!!!!!

[rogers lawn care]

ok hears the deal replaced a sprinkler head the other day now have a problem a major leak some were and now another 40 feet from that head one is not working now the leak is from the head i replaced 8 feet from house all the way to back of house its a big L shape exactly 8 feet from house. is it watering to long or do i have a major leak?and how do i find it with out diggin the whole thing up?

[rogers lawn care]

faster than this

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

ok hears the deal replaced a sprinkler head the other day now have a problem a major leak some were and now another 40 feet from that head one is not working now the leak is from the head i replaced 8 feet from house all the way to back of house its a big L shape exactly 8 feet from house. is it watering to long or do i have a major leak?and how do i find it with out diggin the whole thing up?

I read this three times and I feel like I'm trapped in a roundabout. I can't for the life of me figure out what you are saying.

[rogers lawn care]

ok i got alot of water on the ground 8 feet from back of house all the way around to the side of house could this be a leak that long or is it something else

[Dirty Water]

No, its the second flood.

Start building an ark.

Or, you could perhaps post pictures?

[rogers lawn care]

what good is pictures im telling you what its doing you do know what water looks like dont you?

[Bigred350]

Turn your irrigation off for a few days to let the ground dry out. Then turn it back on and walk around with it on. Look around and see where the water comes up first.

[Dirty Water]

Yeah, but we can't see the pipe in the ground. So we have no way in hell of knowing why you have water somewhere. Do you think we are a bunch of mind readers?

Here is my theory.

You replaced a head. When you did that you got dirt into the pipe. This dirt clogged the next head down the way (hence it not working).

Now you have the new head, it probably has the wrong size nozzle in it, because you didn't think about that. This nozzle is now spewing out tons of water, and the pressure is higher because the last head is clogged.

So now you have a big wet mess, and a clogged head.

Go get em tiger.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

I guess I'll dive in. Check the water meter-is it moving? Shut off the sprinkler system at the main shut off to the system. (that's not the timer/controller/clock) Assuming it was moving does it stop? Do this and we'll go from there. If you can't do this part then I'd get a professional.

[rogers lawn care]

Well new head has right nozzel and the head that isnt working is in the middle of two heads that is working, explain that? And i have turned the water off will turn it back on tomorrow, bye the way its dry now since its been off. Meter not running.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

well new head has right nozzel and the head that isnt working is in the middle of two that is explain that.and i have turned the water off will turn it back on tomorrow bye the way its dry now since its been off.
That's a start. Flag the heads in that area. After it dries out some more turn the water back on. Check the ground and the heads until you see water. If it comes from the heads-valve problem. comes from the ground-most likely a pipe problem. Do this and we'll go from there.

[Dirty Water]

Well new head has right nozzel and the head that isnt working is in the middle of two heads that is working, explain that? And i have turned the water off will turn it back on tomorrow, bye the way its dry now since its been off. Meter not running.

Really? What type of head, what size nozzle, How many degree's of coverage? How many heads per zone? How many GPM from your source?

How do you know its the right nozzle?

And don't discount clogged heads because another one is working, you have no idea how the pipe was laid out, and I've seen it all.

Still, just a theory :)

[rogers lawn care]

ok but why is it in an 8ft wide 40ft long area only

[rogers lawn care]

rainbird 1800 series,90degrees coverage 5heads in that zone and ive took the head apart no water grtting to it.

[Dirty Water]

rainbird 1800 series,90degrees coverage 5heads in that zone and ive took the head apart no water grtting to it.

No water to the replaced head?

Ever considered to look for water coming out of the ground?

Just a thought.

[rogers lawn care]

yes i have like i said its about 8ft wide and about 40ft long in a perfectly straight line thats whats weird

[rogers lawn care]

i've never tried this but what if i caped off all the heads in that zone and turned that zone on could that damage anything? reason for doing so, to see were the water is coming from.

[bicmudpuppy]

rainbird 1800 series,90degrees coverage 5heads in that zone and ive took the head apart no water grtting to it.

The head is a rainbird 1800? The nozzle then is a Q?? Are all 5 nozzles Q's?? Your vocabulary describing this problem IS lacking. Your ATTITUDE about our lack of vision with your vocabulary is less than flattering for someone desiring FREE help with an obvious total lack of knowledge to the problem.

[bicmudpuppy]

what good is pictures im telling you what its doing you do know what water looks like dont you?

So, it is a Pond? Lagoon? or a swimming pool? Tell them to enjoy the new water feature and don't charge them extra for the install. Or loose the attitude before the chances of a MORON getting help go from very slim to absolutely NONE.

[Rainman7]

I have seen leaks like that when theres a pvc main that was not winterized. When PVC gets a freeze break it usually goes from coupling to coupling and sometimes further. Probably not a freeze break in SC though. Dig a hole, probably the best way to inspect underground piping.

[PurpHaze]

When you turn the system back on do it in phases or you may have a hard time determining the source and communicating the info here. Turn the main line back on first and shut down the controller so sprinklers won't run. This will determine whether you have a main line/valve or lateral line leak. If no water appears then turn the system back on and proceed from there. If you're positive that the main line runs nowhere near your wet area then proceed to Step 2. Then get your shovel out and start digging at the first place water is noticed.

[Mjtrole]

So, it is a Pond? Lagoon? or a swimming pool? Tell them to enjoy the new water feature and don't charge them extra for the install. Or loose the attitude before the chances of a MORON getting help go from very slim to absolutely NONE.

You can't add such a feature and not charge somebody for it, that's bad business IMO. When adding water features, whether intentional or not, you should be getting top dollar.

[londonrain]

Could be a track home with 8' between each house, no sun between the houses and people tend to over water a spray zone, crappy grading and Red South Carolina clay....

[sheshovel]

Maybe the two that are working are on a seperate line from the one in between them that is not working. Start digging from the head that is not working and look to see the direction that line goes.
It is obvious to me that if you have two heads working on either side of one that is getting no water, then that one is not on the same waterline than the ones that are working. Or is it just me?

[bicmudpuppy]

Maybe the two that are working are on a seperate line from the one in between them that is not working. Start digging from the head that is not working and look to see the direction that line goes.
It is obvious to me that if you have two heads working on either side of one that is getting no water, then that one is not on the same waterline than the ones that are working. Or is it just me?

My first question in this case the way YOU have outlined it (still not sure what the original description meant) was did the head EVER work?? Possibly a saddle that was never tapped?

[rogers lawn care]

The head is a rainbird 1800? The nozzle then is a Q?? Are all 5 nozzles Q's?? Your vocabulary describing this problem IS lacking. Your ATTITUDE about our lack of vision with your vocabulary is less than flattering for someone desiring FREE help with an obvious total lack of knowledge to the problem. well if you look at the smart ass commit made before mine you will see why i said what i said fire at me get fired back...

[rogers lawn care]

sheshovel i done what you said and yes its on seperate lines.I think i found the leak but the one head still gets know water,and yes it was working before i replaced the head down from that one.

[PurpHaze]

sheshovel i done what you said and yes its on seperate lines.

By "separate lines" do you mean it's on a completely separate zone or just a different line of the same zone of the heads that work on either side of it?

I think i found the leak but the one head still gets know water,and yes it was working before i replaced the head down from that one.

There could be something blocking the sprinkler head. There was a recent thread where someone worked on a repair and debris went downstream to clog off his last sprinkler in the same zone. It woould be worth it for you to read the entire thread and see what actually happened before the problem finally was solved.

This is why when I'm dealing with subcontractors (i.e., plumbers, electricians, low voltage and cable guys, etc.) on a project and they hit our lines I prefer that they just leave it open and let us do the repairs. We'll put things back together cleanly and then check all the heads downstream to make sure their filters or other areas aren't clogged from the original break.

[rogers lawn care]

By "separate lines" do you mean it's on a completely separate zone or just a different line of the same zone of the heads that work on either side of it?



There could be something blocking the sprinkler head. There was a recent thread where someone worked on a repair and debris went downstream to clog off his last sprinkler in the same zone. It woould be worth it for you to read the entire thread and see what actually happened before the problem finally was solved.

This is why when I'm dealing with subcontractors (i.e., plumbers, electricians, low voltage and cable guys, etc.) on a project and they hit our lines I prefer that they just leave it open and let us do the repairs. We'll put things back together cleanly and then check all the heads downstream to make sure their filters or other areas aren't clogged from the original break. ok thanks for the info.

[sheshovel]

sheshovel i done what you said and yes its on seperate lines.I think i found the leak but the one head still gets know water,and yes it was working before i replaced the head down from that one.

Well,I'll be damned, how do ya like that one boys? BINGO!! Seems I might not be as stupid as you think after all huh? Wait...don't answer that!

[bicmudpuppy]

..............but the one head still gets know water,and .............

You've got to be VERY careful with that smart water!!!

[WalkGood]

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Originally Posted by rogers lawn care
..............but the one head still gets know water,and .............
You've got to be VERY careful with that smart water!!!

Yeah, I "scene" that "two".

Maybe it's that new vitamin water. I hear vitamins can make you smart.