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john_incircuit
07-19-2007, 07:28 PM
I need to change the tires on my old Toro Wheelhorse, but canít get the rim off. Removed the screw, used plenty of penetration spray (for a couple of days), but even with my largest 3 arm puller, the wheel does not come off.

Did anyone ever try a portable tire changer, like this one from Northern Tools? Would it do the job, without removing the rim first?

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_13610_13610

barnard
07-19-2007, 07:59 PM
If it's what i'm thinking of its not really portable . it's a manual changer made to be mounted permanantly to the floor. and it won't work onsmall mower wheels. (I have one and change car truck and trailer tires on it.

Restrorob
07-19-2007, 08:11 PM
That tire changer is JUNK John, We bought one for the shop and it just wouldn't work worth crap on any tire we put on it. It's thrown up in the loft right now.

I built a slide hammer with a 4" chisel bent concave and the end rounded off so not to cut the tire, It's the same type they have in the auto biz.

Just get out that BFH and a short 2X4 and knock the out-side bead loose then pop it off with a couple screw drivers, Done many this way that wouldn't come off the axle (Before I built my slide hammer).


As barnard said, This one will do nothing for your stuck wheel.

Good Luck !

Cya

DiyDave
07-19-2007, 08:19 PM
That Northern thingy will change your tire, once you get the wheel off of the axle. How to get the wheel off? If the tire only has a slow leak, pump it back up, remove the screw, hit it with Kroil, or other quality penetrating oil, and just drive it around like normal, it will pick the most inopportune time and place to fall right off. If that doesn't get it moving, you need to give it a few raps with a BFH. Another bit of free advice: If you are going to buy Chinese tools, try Harborfreight.com, they generally have lower prices than Northern!:laugh: :laugh:

Breezmister
07-19-2007, 09:17 PM
I need to change the tires on my old Toro Wheelhorse, but canít get the rim off. Removed the screw, used plenty of penetration spray (for a couple of days), but even with my largest 3 arm puller, the wheel does not come off.

Did anyone ever try a portable tire changer, like this one from Northern Tools? Would it do the job, without removing the rim first?

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_13610_13610

If you have a few dollars, go to gemplers.com and do a search for tire changer. I have both the manual tire changer, which I love because it will break a stuck bead, and is great for rider tires, and the small tire changer which is great for walkbehind tires. Problem is, they cost a few bucks !
Once you learn to use them, they save so much time and trouble

SLR
07-19-2007, 11:35 PM
Could you post a pic of that sliding hammer Restrorob?

john_incircuit
07-20-2007, 01:09 PM
Thanks for all the replies!

I'll try the multiple screwdriver method over the weekend. Did this plenty of times on my kids bicycles, let's see if I can do it on those little 13 inch tires.

Restrorob
07-20-2007, 07:23 PM
Could you post a pic of that sliding hammer Restrorob?


Well, It looks a little crude. I threw it together with scrap laying around the shop. The chisel is actually a 3" used for asphalt in our contractor's 60lb. air jack hammer. A customer got it stuck and broke the shank, Our new replacement is the 4".

The two striker plates is 3" X 1/2" thick flat bar that was a chain wear bar off the boom of our Ditch Witch 1230 trenching machine.

As I said it doesn't look good but does a really good job. I've busted from 4" casters to 16" light truck tires and deep dish ATV's, Along with tires that the wheel is stuck on the axle as John is dealing with.


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m314/Restrorob/100_6137.jpg


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m314/Restrorob/100_6134.jpg

SLR
07-21-2007, 10:02 AM
V-E-R-Y Cool Restrorob.. crude/doesn't look good you say?
Sorry, I'm leaning more to effectively original& a work of art..i'm motivated to go build a 'restro-remover'!

Restrorob
07-21-2007, 11:19 AM
'restro-remover'!


:laugh: http://forums.vr-zone.com/images/smilies/biggthumpup1.gif


Now....This is one of my better builds;

Helicopter Transporter for moving my boss's out of his hanger to his take-off/landing pad.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m314/Restrorob/Chopper%20Transporter/Heli_Porter_0061.jpg


Boss driving it out of the shop to load it up and take it home;

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m314/Restrorob/Chopper%20Transporter/100_6062.jpg


All I had is the pic below as a guide with no specs, This one sold for $9000.00

Total on mine including paint and decals $1250.00


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m314/Restrorob/Chopper%20Transporter/ChopperTransporter.jpg


http://forums.vr-zone.com/images/smilies/smilewide.gif

john_incircuit
07-21-2007, 12:22 PM
:

Now....This is one of my better builds;

Helicopter Transporter for moving my boss's out of his hanger to his take-off/landing pad.


Total on mine including paint and decals $1250.00




Wow, this is incredible, you should go into production with this one! Looks very good.

john_incircuit
07-22-2007, 10:39 AM
Now....This is one of my better builds;

Helicopter Transporter for moving my boss's out of his hanger to his take-off/landing pad.




Restrorob,
I assume you used a DC actuator for the steering, how does the remote control pad look like? Did you use a "left - right" button, or a joy stick setup?

Restrorob
07-22-2007, 12:59 PM
John,

It's all DC operated, The red one is hydraulic but the boss didn't want to go to that expense. As shown below it has a rocker switch on each side with a toggle in the center. The right rocker is for steering the left rocker is for Fwd/Rev. and the toggle is for the cradle Up/Dn. , The steering actuator is a 100 lb. lift and the cradle actuator is a 2000 lb. lift. The chopper weights close to 1000 lbs. fully loaded ready to fly.

Although the drive motor is reversible it only had the single pos/neg post on it so I had to install the four solenoids to operate it properly with the rocker switch.

The switches came from NAPA, The aluminum box (not my choice) came from Radio Shack and the actuators, Drive gear-box, Axles/wheels were picked up on Ebay.


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m314/Restrorob/Chopper%20Transporter/100_6061.jpg


This is what it was built for, 1967 Hughes 269A-1 (TH-55A) military designation helicopter.


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m314/Restrorob/Helicopter-1.jpg