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Matts lawn care
07-24-2007, 12:31 AM
OK, my ford explorer is getting old and leaking 1 1/2 quarts of oil per month. It has come to the time where I want a truck for personal and business use. My mowing setup is in my sig and weighs about 2k max. Once a week I will Have a load of mulch (5 yards at a time yards all my explorer can handle 10 total) I will also have a trailer full of leaves in the fall along with a plait of sod every once and a wile. I also would to like to plow snow with it but not too much snow considering I live in MD. This truck will need to last my next two years of high school and 4 years of collage.

I am looking to spend around 16k. I want a reg can long bed with 2 wheel drive for the 3/4 ton or 4 wheel drive for the 1/2 ton. If I was to get a 3/4 ton it would need to be about 2004 with 40000 to 50000 miles. But if I got a 1/2 ton I could get a new or almost new truck. I don't want to start a Ford vs Chevy war or anything just looking for size. Preferably I want a ford or Chevy. If I did not give enough info just ask.

BltFordTuf
07-24-2007, 12:47 AM
matt,
i have a f150, my dad has a chevy 2500hd, and another guy by me has an 06 or 07 ranger. He has basically the same stuff as you have and can pull it all in one shot. With the mulch im not sure on how much he can get, ill ask him. I know he has a buddy with a dumper too.

If i could choose over, i would get a newer ranger. They look good now and seem to pull a lot better than the older ones. I need my truck to last about the same as you has 120,000 on it 1998 bought for $8000 including repairs.

I could put a 3/4 truck to good use, but with gas and other things, plus college, the smaller truck could end up saving you.

just my opinion

Doug

KS_Grasscutter
07-24-2007, 02:05 AM
Why not a 3/4 ton 4x4?

IA_James
07-24-2007, 09:00 AM
IF you aren't planning on getting into heavy duty land scaping (hauling rock, mulch, dirt, blocks, sand, etc etc) get yourself a 1/2 ton. I had an '03 Chevy Z71, was a good truck. Try and find one without the Autotrac 4x4 set up on it, mine screwed up repeatedly.

Matts lawn care
07-24-2007, 10:20 AM
IA_James
I am also interested in getting into doing work with slate and blue-stone may be paver's. I am working with some one now learning. I will probably wait until im out of school to get into that or only do a few installs in the winter when the Grass isn't growing.

KCgrasscutter
From what I have heard getting a 4x4 on a 3/4 ton comes more problems than its worth having the 4x4 or am I wrong?

TXNSLighting
07-24-2007, 11:13 AM
why not a f-650??!

topsites
07-24-2007, 11:20 AM
why not a f-650??!

All depends how much you plan to tow, as a rule of thumb I like to never exceed half the truck's max rating, that is if a 3/4 ton is rated at 8000 pounds then I prefer to stay below 4000 towed. Because the rating of the truck includes all the weight, truck too! Another method would be to subtract the truck's weight from the rating, but I just do the rule of half, either way.

It's not so much about playing it safe, but what you haul on a daily basis wears the truck out, and the closer you get to the max rating, the faster it wears. As things stand, I get 4-5 maybe 8 years out of a truck with my method, likely I'd only get 1-2 years out of it if I got closer to the max rating.

More than a few guys hauling heavier loads here have 350's and 450's, some bigger.
I always say if you plan to hitch daily, then get at least a 3/4 ton.

IA_James
07-24-2007, 01:54 PM
If you're planning on working with pavers, and towing and/or hauling heavy, then get the 3/4 or a single rear wheel 1 ton. 4x4 would be nice if you plan on driving on literally anything but pavement. A 2wd 3/4 or 1 ton is absolutely capable of getting stuck on wet grass.

South Florida Lawns
07-24-2007, 03:37 PM
I like my chevy 1500 its got the 4.3 in it so its fuel efficient. Plus I got mine brand new for under $16,000. I have never had a problem with towing a load, even when I'm severly overlaoded. Get a 5.3 and 4x4 and it will last you a long time.

This is my current setup 7'x14' enclosed trailer. And yes those are 20's with 32 inch tires.

grandview (2006)
07-24-2007, 05:16 PM
For what you charge you can afford one!:weightlifter:

TXNSLighting
07-24-2007, 06:33 PM
Yes sir!!!!!

Matts lawn care
07-24-2007, 07:38 PM
I probably couldn't to afford to fuel it up and i bet it only gets around 3 mpg. Lets talk practical ppl and stay with in the pole options.

Petr51488
07-24-2007, 09:14 PM
I've got a 1/2 ton truck now. Great truck, but i need something bigger. I don't think you can outgrow a 3/4 ton. Get the biggest that you can afford.

TWUllc
07-24-2007, 09:52 PM
A 1/2 ton will work until you get out of college.

deere615
07-24-2007, 10:44 PM
I have a 1/2 ton and it works good for now and is good on gas, but I would rather have a 3/4 ton and I would get 4x4 no matter what.

tthomass
07-24-2007, 11:38 PM
3/4 ton....get the truck for the job and remember, customers pay your fuel, not you......its all the cost of doing business

TXNSLighting
07-25-2007, 10:05 AM
ok ok a 550...ha! no seriously i think the minimum in this biz is a 3/4 ton. im going to a one ton my next truck. maybe even a dually.

rfed32
07-25-2007, 06:29 PM
i have a 1/2 ton chevy 4x4 and its great...i love it my next one will be the same thing unless i have a skidsteer by that point...but i plow with my truck pull the dump trailer(had 3ton in it) and im not skurd to do any of that...the only reason i would bump up to a 3/4 is for the d-max...but if ur making out fine with the exploder than ull have no problem with the 1.2 ton....good luck hope u pick what u want

tthomass
07-25-2007, 09:51 PM
Bigger trucks work less = last longer.

J&R Landscaping
07-25-2007, 11:28 PM
Once you get out of college, are you still going to be landscaping? Do you have plans of going larger and expanding or do you see yourself staying about the same size?

mikes landscaping
07-26-2007, 06:12 PM
i have a 99 ranger ext. cab with a 3.0 v6 standard. i get 31 mile to a gallon not towing so it mite be good if ur still in high school like me and need to get good fuel milage.

PlatinumLandCon
07-26-2007, 08:12 PM
Get a Dakota w/ 4.7L engine.

Matts lawn care
07-27-2007, 06:44 PM
Once you get out of college, are you still going to be landscaping? Do you have plans of going larger and expanding or do you see yourself staying about the same size?

I plan on expanding and doing this for a living. That said should I go small now and then big later?

Matts lawn care
07-27-2007, 06:45 PM
Get a Dakota w/ 4.7L engine.

Just looking for size comparisons. So your vote is for the Ranger or an equivalent?

PlatinumLandCon
07-27-2007, 06:50 PM
Just looking for size comparisons. So your vote is for the Ranger or an equivalent?

Yea....i just like the dakota better:) .....my uncle's carpenter that's building a deck for him has one and I really like it...Red on Grey interior.

Matts lawn care
07-27-2007, 09:15 PM
OK, looks like the 3/4 ton is going to win. If anyone has a last thought add it now.

PlatinumLandCon
07-27-2007, 09:51 PM
Honestly, if you plan on doing this for a living, get a diesel. No ifs, ands, or buts. Diesel will last 6+ years easy while having more power. Fuel economy is the only thing u might want to keep in mind.

grassmanak
07-27-2007, 09:55 PM
The last 2 trucks ive owned (including current one) have been half tons. They are fine for everyday mowing i think. Im ready to go bigger though, probably this fall. I plow snow as well which makes a difference, although the snow we get here is generally 1/2 ton quailty snow (1-3inches at a time). The cost of the 3/4 ton of the half ton will probably be worth it in the long run. If you have to choose maybe get the one in the middle. Smaller trucks are just not made for constant towing.

grassmanak
07-27-2007, 09:56 PM
Honestly, if you plan on doing this for a living, get a diesel. No ifs, ands, or buts. Diesel will last 6+ years easy while having more power. Fuel economy is the only thing u might want to keep in mind.

he is looking to spend around 16K though, he could buy any of these trucks brand new for that. A diesel adds another 5-6K

fiveoboy01
07-27-2007, 10:11 PM
Hell, he can't even hardly get a half-ton new for 16K.

Go with a 3/4 ton. It will be more useful as you grow and if you ever think about hanging a plow, you'll want the bigger truck with a solid front axle.

That said, if you DO go 3/4 ton, think long and hard about getting a 4x4 instead of 2wd. Plowing is almost out of the question with 2wd though it can be done but it's a pain.

mcwlandscaping
07-27-2007, 11:50 PM
3/4 ton all the way and definitely 4*4...ya never know when a hot girl might need pulling out of the snow :) j/k But serriously, you'll appreciate the added capacity as well as the few times where the 4*4 will save you!

ALarsh
07-28-2007, 02:35 AM
A truck with 4x4 holds its resale value much better than a 2wd truck.

If your just mowing, I would go 1/2 ton. If your doing landscaping along with plowing, I would go 3/4.

grassmanak
07-28-2007, 02:40 AM
wait till your pulling around 2-3 mowers with a ranger or 1/2 ton, it will suck. i know

Lawn Enforcer
07-28-2007, 09:35 AM
I have a '05 Ram 1500 long box reg. cab 2WD and a 4.7 V-8. I bought it with only 26,000 miles on it from Fastenal. I don't know if they have Fastenals out your way, but check 'em out. Good trucks serviced every 2,000 miles at Dodge dealers. I paid $14,250ish for it. I pull about 2,600 pounds with it every day, not much highway driving w/ it w/ the trailer, and I get around 14mpg in town pulling the trailer.

J&R Landscaping
07-28-2007, 11:49 PM
Since you are planning to be in this for the long haul, get a truck that will keep up and be able to satisfy your goals a few years down the line. A diesel 3/4 ton 4x4 might be just the thing for you, if not get a gasser with low miles.

jbannick18
10-01-2007, 05:04 PM
i have a 99 ranger ext. cab with a 3.0 v6 standard. i get 31 mile to a gallon not towing so it mite be good if ur still in high school like me and need to get good fuel milage.


How do you get 31mpg my 02 ranger doesn't even get close to that : /