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kemmer
08-05-2007, 04:10 PM
Hey guys, im looking for some help on choosing what material will be best for this wall we are going to be building probably next summer. It on the Schroon Lake in the Adirondacks. If you look at the pictures below you'll get a better idea of what we are trying to do. Im trying to decide what material will be better, concrete products or natural dry stacked. I also what to try to disturb as little as possible to try to save the trees behind the wall. the trees are said to be protected by the apa. so i have to look into what the laws are for lake front landscaping.

I would also like it if people could post pictures of their lakefront projects or natural stone wall projects. Id like to see the different types of material you can use for the walls

Thanks

PerfectEarth
08-05-2007, 04:12 PM
Man, I kinda like it just how it is! I wouldn't touch it if it were mine.

kemmer
08-05-2007, 04:20 PM
well something has to be done with the steps, maybe will use some big steppers

grandview (2006)
08-05-2007, 04:34 PM
I would leave it a lone ,because if you put a wall across the front everything would be cockeyed. Maybe just a small wall in the corner and make a patio with an outdoor fireplace.

lawnkid
08-05-2007, 05:08 PM
I have seen lots of wall pics posted on here that Greenmonster's crew built over the last couple years on shorelines so maybe drop him a pm.

SOUTHERNGREENSCAPES
08-05-2007, 11:00 PM
I am like everyone else. I like the exposed roots on the trees and the natural rock. Find a way to take and build a nice set of steps that blends with the rocks that are alredy there. You could even build a small patio in the woods above the rocks looking out accros the lake.

ChampionLS
08-05-2007, 11:04 PM
Are you just building a retaining wall for the shoreline? I'm assuming there is no Tide, and/or the high/low water mark does not vary much. If your building a bulkhead, or the wall will be for docking, There is A LOT of engineering that needs to be considered with building the wall correctly. It's not real hard, but you can't omit the required steps or materials needed.

Humble Earth Mover
08-06-2007, 12:41 PM
I agree with the natural look. I would like to see the steps rebuilt with solid stone slabs and retain the areas next to the steps with a few large and medium size boulders. Keep it natural. Don't disturb the natural transition between water and land unless it poses a problem to the house or property. Definitely stay away from a SRW, that would be tacky.

etwman
08-06-2007, 02:00 PM
Good Luck!

We did a project over in Speculator, 1 hour west of Scroon Lake. It took 16 months of paper work with the APC before we could move one shovel of dirt. They wanted engineering prints, structural analysis, and 20 other things. Building lake walls is one thing, building lake walls in the Adirondacks is a whole nother can of worms. If you want more information on dealing with the APC you can contact me.

An SRW will last alot longer in those harsh environments if built right and will get approval easier. Natural walls have alot more red tape but may look nicer in that environment. Pick your poison.

Our project can be seen at this link on page 40:

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=37810&page=40

Matts lawn care
08-06-2007, 02:01 PM
if it were me I would keep the natural look. Rebuild the steps and put some landscape lights in. But thats just me.

ChampionLS
08-10-2007, 05:45 PM
Good Luck!

We did a project over in Speculator, 1 hour west of Scroon Lake. It took 16 months of paper work with the APC before we could move one shovel of dirt. They wanted engineering prints, structural analysis, and 20 other things. Building lake walls is one thing, building lake walls in the Adirondacks is a whole nother can of worms. If you want more information on dealing with the APC you can contact me.

An SRW will last alot longer in those harsh environments if built right and will get approval easier. Natural walls have alot more red tape but may look nicer in that environment. Pick your poison.

Our project can be seen at this link on page 40:

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=37810&page=40



Ok I'm impressed! Thats a HUGE!!! Job! Wow, no wonder it took so long for approvals. It was worth the wait. That Coventry wall takes a lot of time to layout and it appears very straight and randomized nicely.

Great Job! :drinkup:

ChampionLS
08-10-2007, 05:55 PM
Hahaha! I recognize your truck... I took a picture of it at MAHTS 07
congrats on that too! :waving:

BrandonV
08-10-2007, 09:41 PM
i love the rocks and the trees, i can see where you might want some better steps... maybe just rip up the timbers and get some big steppers to match the color of your boulders I wouldn't use anything manmade you've already got what people pay big bucks for us to create