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JeffW0011
09-10-2007, 11:26 PM
I have had several customers inquire about aeration and over seeding. I have also had calls. I have researched and have consulted with some local experts on basic info and pricing and what not. I am looking for any tips or general info. I am looking for multiple opinions on the following questions.

1) I know they say early September is the best time in this area...central Indiana....I am wondering if the extreme summer has widened the window of oppurtunity. I can rent/borrow a machine real cheap two weeks from now. Would I still be in good shape time wise?

2) How much would you charge? Say for a 10k square foot lot or say for a customer you charge $40 to cut.

3) How much would you markup seed cost and fertilizer.

4) Do you need to have any utility companies mark underground items. Do you risk cutting any cables or gas lines etc?

5) any other tips or tricks or practical info??

Thanks in advance for the help.

NewLeaf
09-10-2007, 11:35 PM
I charge approx, 0.11 per sq. foot plus cost of seed. (For overseeding)
Aeration, charge like your mowing X2.

Soupy
09-11-2007, 12:39 AM
I charge approx, 0.11 per sq. foot plus cost of seed. (For overseeding)
Aeration, charge like your mowing X2.

Too cheap. For a 10K lot charge $120 - $150 and double the price if they want seed. If you have to go lower maybe $100 ($200 seeded), but any lower I would pass and let the lowballers have it.

NewLeaf
09-11-2007, 01:01 AM
OK wait a minute, 10,000 sq. feet x 0.11 comes to $1,100.00 all day.
then if you aerate that would bring at least $240.00. Correct me if I'm wrong

Soupy
09-11-2007, 01:19 AM
OK wait a minute, 10,000 sq. feet x 0.11 comes to $1,100.00 all day.
then if you aerate that would bring at least $240.00. Correct me if I'm wrong

I figured you meant 0.011 per sq ft. Because I know your not getting $1100 to aerate 10K. $110 for just aeration isn't to bad on 10K but seeding at cost makes it ridiculously low.

just aeration you said you charge 2 x mowing price. Unless your charging $55+ to mow then your to low again. I have seen 10K lawns go for $15 - $40 so it's not a good way to base aeration price.

DLAWNS
09-11-2007, 08:02 AM
I was advised to price it at $50-100 per 1000 sq.ft. thats what I've done and most people haven't complained. My advice is go closer to the $100,as seed can get costly plus the rental fee, and time especially if you are new to it.

topsites
09-11-2007, 08:45 AM
I just charge my usual labor rates + cost of seed.

JeffW0011
09-11-2007, 09:06 AM
is there any danger of damaging buried cables, pipes and such? what about tree roots and such?

hackitdown
09-11-2007, 09:17 AM
I charge $15 per 1000 sq/ft, with typical lawns here at 10,000 to 20,000 sq ft. So $150 to $300 per lawn to aerate with a tow behind. I spread 2 lbs of seed per 1000 sq/ft at $10 per 1000 sq/ft (I pay a little under $2 per pound for seed) so $100 to $200 to overseed.

So a typical 15K sq/ft lawn is $375 to aerate and seed for 2 hrs work, but I do pay $60 for the seed. Do 4 in a day, and the pay is pretty good.

The biggest danger is hitting sprinklers. I ask the customers to flag them before I arrive. In Mass, the elec cables are buried 18" by code. That doesn't mean that you may not hit something, so be careful.

NewLeaf
09-11-2007, 09:30 AM
I figured you meant 0.011 per sq ft. Because I know your not getting $1100 to aerate 10K. $110 for just aeration isn't to bad on 10K but seeding at cost makes it ridiculously low.

just aeration you said you charge 2 x mowing price. Unless your charging $55+ to mow then your to low again. I have seen 10K lawns go for $15 - $40 so it's not a good way to base aeration price.

So how about $75.00 base 5k & under, then $10.00-$15.00 for additional 1k.
Whould that cost include seed or not?

supercuts
09-11-2007, 09:41 AM
I charge $15 per 1000 sq/ft, with typical lawns here at 10,000 to 20,000 sq ft. So $150 to $300 per lawn to aerate with a tow behind. I spread 2 lbs of seed per 1000 sq/ft at $10 per 1000 sq/ft (I pay a little under $2 per pound for seed) so $100 to $200 to overseed.

So a typical 15K sq/ft lawn is $375 to aerate and seed for 2 hrs work, but I do pay $60 for the seed. Do 4 in a day, and the pay is pretty good.

The biggest danger is hitting sprinklers. I ask the customers to flag them before I arrive. In Mass, the elec cables are buried 18" by code. That doesn't mean that you may not hit something, so be careful.

finally someone with intelligence. typically its 12-$15 per 1,000 square feet. for all the guys talking about your typical hourly rate is plain stupid. if you were to buy one of these things they are thousands of dollars. now take that along with the routine costs of running your business and you'll realize you need to charge extra for certain jobs or you'll bankrupt yourself. im doing a bush hog job this week for a small area of briars for $300. ist going to take me longers to load and unload then it will to do the job. but even my old tractor is very expensive and the attactments are too. if i said $50/hr for stuff like this id be broke. and at the $15 per 1,000 rate you can probably tach on the rental fee to each lawn and the customers wont complain.

weeble67
09-11-2007, 12:30 PM
Are you guys just plugging and then broadcast spreading or are you using a slit seeder after plugging? And JeffW0011 what equipement are you borrowing/renting? I think you base your price on your time. Not every lot is going to be the same.

mdvaden
09-11-2007, 11:08 PM
Sell what you can, but do what is not good "craftsmanship".

If the soil is moist enough to step on the holes and they start shutting, its either too late in autumn, or too early in spring.

I always tell my customers "don't let anyone sell you aerating if you can push a finger size hole in the grounds and step it half way shut".

The expert advice must fit within that framework, or all the expert advice is null and void.

Kids, mowers and foot traffic will shut the holes if aeration is done at the wrong time.

The holes won't last forever - it just needs to be timed so the benefit lasts a while. Honestly, I'd say that maybe when soil is firm enough in autumn, but hardly any more mowing will occur.

Soupy
09-12-2007, 04:11 AM
It's late but from I can read no one in this thread should even be selling aerations. your not experienced. Stick to The basic and stop acting like you know lawn care.

NewLeaf
09-12-2007, 10:24 AM
It's late but from I can read no one in this thread should even be selling aerations. your not experienced. Stick to The basic and stop acting like you know lawn care.

I believe the purpose of this thread is, titled ( Pros Helping beginners)

topsites
09-12-2007, 12:22 PM
I believe the purpose of this thread is, titled ( Pros Helping beginners)

You have to learn some kind of way and I dislike the wise guys too, but this very topic has been discussed many times over on LS, I myself get tired of answering the same question dozens of times over just to see it pop up again a week later... Hence that's how we get the attitudes rolling, and sorry about my earlier wise reply but it kinda rolls off like on cruise control somedays.

Like, you have to forgive the old timers, then the old timers have to forgive the new guys, and so on...

So may I recommend doing a search, I am sure there are a million+ posts on this forum in storage, probably closer to 10-100 million or somewhere in there, I am certain you can find the step-by-step how-to someplace, if it takes 20 minutes to find it that would be as long as it takes me to type it, so me thinks you should find searching as rewarding as I usually do answering.

Peace out