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Chuck Sinclair
09-16-2001, 07:08 PM
Just wandering how many yards does the average LCO does in a day, and is it you alone or you and a helper or a maintenance crew? and what size mowers do you use.
Bunton Guy
09-16-2001, 07:36 PM
I do 10 yards a day. Im a small operation single man .
sinclac,
I guess it would depend alot more on how big or complex those lawns are. For instance, on a good day, mowing my smaller lawn route < 35,000 sqft each, I can usually get around 12-14 a day done. Now switch over to the other extreme with my bigger lawns which average 150,000 each I can only get done 3 of them. So it has alot more to do with the size of the lawn than the equipment you use.
Mowman
09-16-2001, 08:30 PM
Depends on how big they are and the location of them. I've done as many as 10 in one long day. They were in the same town and were all about 15,000 sq. ft. I work alone and am using a Walker Mower w/ 52" deck. I think if I had a helper doing the trimming and edging I could get 15 to 20 in one day. The trimming and edging take the longest time, cutting is no big deal as long as you have a GOOD COMMERCIAL MACHINE. Hope this helps.
Good Luck,
Mowman
MATTHEW
09-16-2001, 09:45 PM
I do about 12 a day 3 days a week. Most average 9,000 sq. feet.
I have 22 small rentals I do every 10-14 days (7 hrs) and the rest is for lawn treatment and misc. work.
jnjnlc
09-16-2001, 10:02 PM
I work alone as well. It varies for me. Friday is my big day. I do 15 lawns (approx. 10K Sq ft ea) with a 30 minute drive to and from. I leave home about 8:00 and get home about 6:00.
I have done as many as 16 in one day. Some were up to 1/2 acre. Man was I dead at the end of the day.
15 on Friday
13 on Thursday
11 on Wednesday
10 on Tuesday
Between 8-23. I know that is a large spread, but somedays I do alot of small accounts and then on other days I am doing very large properties. And then of course there are Fridays in which I try to never work past 3pm.
Mowingman
09-16-2001, 11:04 PM
With myself and 1 helper, we can do 25 lawns/day (10,000sf lots).This takes us about 10 hours including travel between lawns.I use a Walker 42" and a 21" on most of these. One or two require using 21" mowers on the whole yard. One 1 street we have 8 lawns in one block. We average 11 min./lawn on these.:)
JimLewis
09-17-2001, 02:33 AM
Our crews do anywhere from 15-25 per day. All smaller lots around here. All done with 21" mowers. Very little drive time in between. 8-10 hour days.
When I used to do it myself (Ahhh... This leather chair feels so much better :-) I did about 10-15 a day. Now I get to sit in an air conditioned house or truck most of the day. Much better!
TGCummings
09-17-2001, 09:42 AM
12-14 lawns per day. An average of 40 minutes drive time every day, most lawns done with a 21" mulching mower, a few done with a 36" Exmark. Most lawns are in the 1500-3000 square foot range, and I work solo. Some lawns well below 1000 square foot, and a few above 4000. Nothing larger than 6000 square foot on my normal route.
sinlac, you're in Cali. How many do you do, and what's you're average size/lawn?
-TGC
Grass_Slayer
09-17-2001, 01:52 PM
I DONT HAVE ANY YARDS THAT ARE UNDER 22K MY LARGEST ONE IS 4 ACRES. MOST OF MINE ARE BETWEEN 1 AND 2 ACRES I DONT LIVE IN A BIG CITY WITH THE ZERO LOT LINES.
mdb landscaping
09-17-2001, 02:26 PM
i can do 12 yards a day and im a single man operation.
Randy
09-17-2001, 04:25 PM
I do two of my lawns a day. If they are small. My cemerty takes two day, Just me and my bother which works with me some. Most of the time I'm a one man gang. Plus I like to take my time and do it right. So on average I do two a day.:) P.S most of my lawn are 1 to 2 achers.
Chuck Sinclair
09-17-2001, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by TGCummings
12-14 lawns per day. An average of 40 minutes drive time every day, most lawns done with a 21" mulching mower, a few done with a 36" Exmark. Most lawns are in the 1500-3000 square foot range, and I work solo. Some lawns well below 1000 square foot, and a few above 4000. Nothing larger than 6000 square foot on my normal route.
sinlac, you're in Cali. How many do you do, and what's you're average size/lawn?
-TGC
I mow 1 day a week (Part Time) with a helper we do 12 full service yards 9- .5 achers lots and 3- 1 achers lots. we were just running two 21" hondas but now i have my 36" we get done alot faster.
walker-talker
09-17-2001, 06:48 PM
Sinclac,
With those size of lots, have you ever considered a rider?
Chuck Sinclair
09-17-2001, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by walker-talker
Sinclac,
With those size of lots, have you ever considered a rider?
I would love to have a Z but i have too many truck payments
1 for me and 1 for the biz (complete tax write off) and i pay cash for every thing else so i guess i'm going to have to start saving.
BTW our market here is a lot different between the 12 propertys i make about 1500.00 and i'm considerd high priced.
Depends on what i have scheduled,
Today we did 10 lawns smallest was 1/3 acre and largest was 2 acres
We also did one small easy cemetery that is mostly all field(5 acres and maybe only 100 stones to trim around)
We started at 10am and finished at 5:30
Used 72" and 52" z-masters on everything,on smaller lawns just used the 52" and one of use trimmed and blew the walks
Dan G.
sinciac how do you get a price of 125.00 out of a 3000sqft lawn? Im solo and do 8to 10 yds per day sometimes less with my larger commercial accounts, but i sure would like to know your secret i have some 90 dollar yds but there 1-1/2 acer. Marks Mowing Service
Chuck Sinclair
09-18-2001, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by Mark
sinciac how do you get a price of 125.00 out of a 3000sqft lawn? Im solo and do 8to 10 yds per day sometimes less with my larger commercial accounts, but i sure would like to know your secret i have some 90 dollar yds but there 1-1/2 acer. Marks Mowing Service
Remember i said Full service and that is per month charges. The range is 33.00 a month all the way to 375.00 a month
kutnkru
09-19-2001, 08:44 PM
I can cut from 22-28 8m/sf lawns depending on how many we can cut in the same neighborhood to reduce trailering equipment for extended distances. This is with a 48" deck with minimal bagging(one front - one rear).
brucec32
09-20-2001, 01:37 AM
Trust me, unless you hired a motivated relative or something, NO WAY could you go from a max of 10 to 20 lawns in a day, and maybe not even 15. You'd be shocked at the diminishing returns with a helper.
Factor in the time you lose stopping to tell him what to do repeatedly, the time you lose stopping for him to eat a full meal, to relieve himself, the absenteeism, the shockingly low productivity he'll have compared to your own, (he's not getting paid by the yard, you are), the time you spend waiting around for him when he shows up late, the fact that he may only be working 30 min out of every hour (drive time, breaks, etc), and you'll find that you may be surprised how little you get done. Factor in a lot more job stress dealing with the typical modern day work ethic and you may find it's not worth it.
brucec32
09-20-2001, 01:41 AM
I sense a little exaggeration around here.......
Ok, I now typically mow 8 lawns in a day, mostly 5,000-10,000 ft lawns in the suburbs with a ZTR, by myself. But my health stinks this year, I'm getting burnt out, I'm financially ok anyway, and I only work short days. In a full 10 hour day I can reliably mow 12 lawns. (about $384) That's 4 days a week, no way could I do that 5 days in a row with my knees.
gogetter
09-20-2001, 02:05 AM
Bruce, I hear ya on the exaggerations.
Although I'm only part time right now, with my current equipment (36" Metro as main mower), in an 8 hour day, I can get all 8 of my lawns done. These range from 4k to about 7k. None next to each other so driving required between each stop (average drive time about 5 - 10 minutes between stops).
Plus 30-35 minute round trip to storage unit at beginning and end of day. That's over an hour of wasted drive time. Trying to find closer storage arrangements.
I can't imagine how these guys are doing 20 and more stops a day solo. Unless several are on same street.
I hope to get a 42" or 48" Wright Stander next season, so that should help a bit. I'd like to be able to do about 10-12 lawns a day.
kutnkru
09-20-2001, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by gogetter
... I can't imagine how these guys are doing 20 and more stops a day solo. Unless several are on same street. ...That is exactly how you do it. If you have 4-5 lawns clustered in an area, and arent looking for a partial days labor under 8 hours - your are in the right ballpark.
By keeping routes finely tuned to eliminate as much trailering as possible thats how you increase production. We have one route where there are eight properties on one street alone. After about 90 minutes of laboring you have completed 1/3 the route and still have the better part of 8 hours left for production.
Its all about marketing profitable accounts and then working smarter, not driving faster to get to the next.
brucec32
09-20-2001, 06:59 PM
Doing 8 lawns in 90 minutes, it's obvious KutnKrew does indeed have a whole crew doing the work. 3 guys could loaf and do 20 lawns. 2 good ones could handle it in a full day. Of course this all depends on lawn size, grass type, lawn layout, bagging, etc, etc., so "lawns" is a pretty flexible term.
I would say that it certainly is more profitable to do numerous lawns at one stop, especially if it's more than one guy doing it. That's by far the best way to be profitable if you've got a crew. This is of course why people who want to hire a lot of workers to do the work usually do commercial work (big properties they work on all day) to minimize paying people to ride around all day.
The problem for guys working alone and trying to knock off 3 or 4 lawns at one stop is that you wind up having to stop to rest anyway eventually. I do 4 lawns together at one stop, and since there's very little trimming and zero edging/blowing there (country houses) it's not too bad, but for traditional suburban subdivision lawns, I'm pretty beat after 3 lawns. I use my drive time in lieu of taking any breaks on job sites.
Time on-site also varies widely, based on the quality of work done. I am sometimes appaled watching a LOT of crews mowing lawns and really making a mess (blowing clippings into street instead of back into lawn, leaving windrows of clippings, not edging beds, etc) but I don't work that way. I can rip through a lawn in 20 minutes and it looks ok, but it might take 35 to do it to my internal standards. I could probably cut faster and few would complain, but my goal has always been zero complaints. Not an income maximizer, but it's simplier and more stress free for me.
So how many lawns one can mow is all relative. A better indicator is how much revenue you can produce consistently. By consistently I means you don't lose customers frequently because they're not happy with your work. It also means you don't lose employees because you're pushing too hard. Finally, it means you are happy with your job and get along well with those who you work for. When I get a message to call a customer back, I don't cringe, because I know it's not a complaint. You can sprint 100 yards in 12 seconds, but you can't run a marathon that way.
kutnkru
09-20-2001, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by brucec32
Doing 8 lawns in 90 minutes, it's obvious KutnKrew does indeed have a whole crew doing the work. ... To be truthful I am operating as a solo operator these days. This number of lawns is cut by using a 60" TurfTracer Hydro in 4th gear. And yes I did the walking -LOL!!! :laugh:
The lawns are set up so that front and back lawns can be cut as one pattern. There are no obstacles other than foundation plantings, and the ground is about as level as it can get.
Stick edgers are used along curbs and walks and line trimmers along driveways. The beds are done every other cut and this time it was the "skip" rotation for the bed edges.
By bagging the clippings (nothing to mention this time of year -LOL) there is no need for bp or hh blowers. Just run the machine up the drive and walk and keep moving on to the next. I do the trimming and edging prior to mowing so the clippings are picked up while cutting.
If I had to cut with a 36" deck all day I would say that one would be limited to 15 lawns or less. I also put in 72 hours a week cutting to maintain the accounts that I have.
As I stated before it can take an incredible amount of time if you are not geared for efficiency. The main thing as you mentioned is not to let quality fall behind. I will and would charge clients higher rates before I strictly became a Mow-n-Go LCO.
Kris
GreenQuest Lawn
09-21-2001, 12:36 AM
Well I maintain 40 accts. they range from 1500 sq/ft to 3 acers. I mow 4 days a week. some days I get 4-5 done others like today I got 14 done. depends wether I am doing the big ones or small ones.
LAWNGODFATHER
09-21-2001, 02:51 AM
Well I'm not a one man show or a solo. I HAVE to have the guys cut so much per a day per a crew. We use no smaller than an Exmark Turf Tracer 52" w/ Velke X2 and Lazer 60". Most of my lawns are 1 acre plus. Some are 3 acres, and a few 5+ acres. I have some larger ones like 15 acre industrial. I have some lawns lined up to mow 31 on one street and a crew of 2 can do it plus the 9 acres of common ground in 7 hrs, if only single cut the lawns. Now I have a 36" belt drive for the gates but we made most of them bigger to fit a 52". I have some common ground that will take a crew of 2-8 hrs to mow. So I guess you question is too broad. I don't go by how many lawns, I go by how much they can generate per an hour. I get around $75 per a man hour mowing. But the above will give you a clue to how it's done.
LGF:blob1:
Flex-Deck
09-21-2001, 05:47 PM
No way I would know how many in a day because the size varies too much. I have one 2 acre yard I mow and trim in 45 min. myself. some places I do I don't have a clue as to acres as they are broken up or have lines of machinery in the way etc, or they are called cemetaries with boo-koo stones to mow and trim around.
LJ lawn
09-21-2001, 09:51 PM
i can average 12-18 lawns a day alone. the best i've done was 25 with one helper line trimming.working 9-5.geared for production.(1)walker 42"diesel,(1)toro 44"z,(1)54" diesel grasshopper,(1)32"exmark.-got no time for breaks or lunch-just mowin'
LAWNGODFATHER
09-21-2001, 11:21 PM
To be truthful I am operating as a solo operator these days. This number of lawns is cut by using a 60" TurfTracer Hydro in 4th gear. And yes I did the walking -LOL!!!
Kutnkru how can you run a hydro in fourth gear?
LGF:blob1:
summitgroundskeeping
09-23-2001, 06:51 PM
I feel sorry for you guys with properties that tiny. I would feel so dumb pulling up to a lawn that small in my rig. With lawns that small, all you need is one of them electric deals, lol. Smallest lawn for me I believe is 3,500 sq feet. and it's the smallest by far. Most lawns are 15,000 sq feet.
Mowman
09-24-2001, 08:41 AM
I checked my records and for a FACT I cut 12 lawns in an 9 hour time period. That also includes travel time around town. These lawns were 10-15k lawns in the same town. All I used was my Walker MT-54 and string trimmer. I work alone because I don't want the HASSLES of dealing with employee's that don't CARE. I've got most of my accounts from client's that were PISSED OFF at the BIG LC's with workers that TORE up their lawn and didn't give a ****. So believe me or not, with the RIGHT equipment you can CRANK-OUT the lawns. With the Walker there is not much string trimming to do. Just ask other Walker Owners.
Walkers are not the FASTEST mowers out there but I know for a fact that it will go PLACES no Mid-Mount will get into as far as cutting down on the amount of string trimming required. Since I got my Walker I only take the 21" one day a week as I need it to get into a 30" gate. One lawn I use a 21" on. Right there saves alot of time in my book.
rodfather
09-24-2001, 04:36 PM
It makes absolutely no difference in how "many" lawns you can do in one day...it's how much you do in $$$ that makes all the difference. We have days where a 2-man crew has to mow 8 lawns that totals $1000 or so with very little travelling. Other days these two same guys may mow 17 lawns totally $800 or less) and spend 3 times as much driving going from job to job.
Lastly, when you look at the "bottom line", it isn't how much you make...it's how much you get to keep after paying for fuel, insurance (liability and medical), labor costs, wear-and-tear on the equipment, new equipment acquisition, and on and on!!!
The key to this business is to have fewer and fewer lawns to mow each year, but make more and more money with them. Mowing a lot of lawns is great (we have over 100+ accounts in 5 counties of NJ and PA). What all of us need to do is expand our accounts to include now only mowing, but fertilizing, aerating, de-thatching, overseeding and re-seeding, clean-ups (Spring and Fall), mulching, shrub prunning, and the list goes on and on.
Use your imagination...
gogetter
09-24-2001, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by summitgroundskeeping
[B]I I would feel so dumb pulling up to a lawn that small in my rig.
Why would you feel dumb? Sounds like a personal problem.:confused:
outrunjason
02-10-2002, 05:08 AM
I mowed about 6 lawns 5 days a week. Well this year I plan to double that and do about 16 a day with one helper. I could do more but with the summer heat of Texas forget it!!!!!!!!!
Jason
slplow
02-10-2002, 07:29 AM
My lawns are in the 5,000-10,000 sq.ft and 1 35,000 sq.ft lawn. On my own I can cut ,trim and blow 18 lawns in a 10 hour day w/48" walker bagging all of them. With one worker we can do 25 to 27 lawns in a 9 hour day with the Walker and 52" Hydro. We mow three days a week allowing the other three for various other landscaping jobs.
I mow about 13 per day. I mow on mon, tue and wed. Most res. lawns are 5,000 sq. ft. and I use a 36" metro. I'm solo. when I'm mowing a tell myself "10 x 2" means mow 10 lawns by 2pm. If I get that I can take it easy until about 4pm.
Ron
PS
my brother works on a landscape crew (don't ask me why he won't work for me. lol) and each 3 man crew will mow about 50 lawns per day. It's funny to see 3 guys on a 5,000 sq. ft. lawn - one with trimmer and two with Dixie Choppers (they call them Dixie Cheetahs). Their route is so close by the time they get done with a street their truck is about 150 yards away.
brucec32
02-10-2002, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by rodfather
It makes absolutely no difference in how "many" lawns you can do in one day...it's how much you do in $$$ that makes all the difference. We have days where a 2-man crew has to mow 8 lawns that totals $1000 or so with very little travelling. Other days these two same guys may mow 17 lawns totally $800 or less) and spend 3 times as much driving going from job to job.
...
Point well taken. The term "lawns" does vary, doesn't it? Based on the profitability of your setup, I would suggest not changing and thing, maybe even holding seminars on how to get people to pay that much! But for most I would suggest using a formula for pricing that includes your drive time. It will more accurately represent your costs and efforts, and match up better with the marketplace. After all, anyone who does a customer's lawn will have to drive there, and they are paying the crew whether driving or not, which is the principle cost involved. I would think that billing for drive time, be it actual or an just an "average time per lawn", would even out that billing.
$1000 a day for two men is great, but that price seems high and difficult for most contractors to sustain. The typical employee types on two man crews I see working can't finish a $40 lawn in the time I can do one by myself. I don't see how one could expect a reliable $800-$1000/day of production from them. $600 seems more reasonable.
If you have two workers who can produce $800 + a day, give them a big raise. Based on just the $800 figure, you could pay them a whopping $40,000/year annually each (the industry average is more like $25,000) and still make a profit before other expenses of $415/day, (or $1660/week) based on a 40 hour week of 4 ten hour days. And you'd never have to set foot on a lawn. The tilesetter who bid to do my floors, a real craftsman at the high end of the price spectrum, running 8 crews, charged me what amounted to about $833/day with a two man crew. So I'm surprised anyone could get that price for lawn mowing. I had the tile work done by another guy and his helper who did a good job for about $600/day. Do the math, after paying his helper, that's still almost a 6 figure income working 4 short (no more than 6.5 hours on-site per day) days a week with two weeks off.
Some guys out there must use Mr. Spock's Vulcan methods of mind control. America can't seem to get employees at McDonald's to get an order right, you can't get your car fixed right for $90/hour labor rates, my wife can't get $60,000/year college educated employees to do their jobs right, but some guys can get career lawn mowing employees to consistently produce as much income in a day as my all time max for a 12 hour day using a lazer Z.
Did I mention that I mow 10,000 lawns a day?
brucec32
02-10-2002, 11:17 AM
[PS
my brother works on a landscape crew (don't ask me why he won't work for me. lol) and each 3 man crew will mow about 50 lawns per day. It's funny to see 3 guys on a 5,000 sq. ft. lawn - one with trimmer and two with Dixie Choppers (they call them Dixie Cheetahs). Their route is so close by the time they get done with a street their truck is about 150 yards away. [/B][/QUOTE]
You know, people come here for ADVICE, not bragging and BS. I may be missing some detail here , but they are not mowing fifty 5,000 ft lawns in a day. The average price for a lawn like that here in Atlanta is at least about $30, so they're grossing $1500/day with three men? That means that after they're paid their salaries and expenses are paid, the owner is left with a gross profit of about $1000 PER DAY? I say Bull! How many one-crew operators has anyone here heard of who make $250,000 a year? Funny, but I don't see any mansions in Country Club of the South (where some of the Atlanta Braves and music stars live) occupied by lawn maintenance jockeys with three employees.
Those 50 "lawns" might be postage stamp front lawns in cluster home projects, but not 5,000 ft lawns. In other words, they might be getting $10 or $12/lawn.
I think I'll stick to the tech areas of the bb. This area is starting to remind me of the Monty Python skit where the old men get together telling stories, sipping wine, and continually try to top each others stories about how hard they had it as kids, until at one point they're claiming "we used to have to get up at 1am, two hours before we went to bed, work 36 hours a day, and then dad would kill us, chop us up, and dance on our graves singing 'halilujah!'....but you try to tell kids that these days....they won't believe you..nope"
Past a point it just gets ridiculous. And I don't believe it
Lawn-Scapes
02-10-2002, 11:45 AM
brucec32..
I think your calculations are off... only $500 for 3 salaries + expenses?
edit Forget what I said. My mistake.. I was thinking weekly salaries!
Our crew does anywhere between 16-28 lawns a day. Most of the time we run a two man crew where they can handle about 16-20. But Thur + Fri. we run 3 man crew and they do upwards of 28 lawns a day.
Bruce,
That is what my brother said, between 45 and 50 lawns a day. They have 3 mowing crews and they mow about 400+ lawns per week. Some are much bigger than 5K. My brother makes close to $20/hour plus straight cash overtime.
LawnCrafters
02-15-2002, 11:56 PM
I do about 20-25 a day 5 days a week. That's with two guys and two WBs. A few years back I did about 12 a day with one 52 WB.
leeslawncare
02-16-2002, 01:28 AM
I'am a part time pro... I do about 3 to 4 a day...3 hrs a day ,4 days a week(.$$ a year. not a scrub ...pay my dues....an taxes z-71 with the stuff to match...(just ask my acountant)!!!!LOL(as long as he goes to Jail with me )No joke LiGet is the way to go.
thfireman
02-23-2002, 11:33 PM
I am a full time firefighter. Full time still leaves me 3 week days off so I cut on my off days. I average 6-8 yards a day. I have a 48" Exmark and a 52" Scag both with Velke's and a helper that is very good at mowing. We could knock out way more in a day but we keep it to 6-8 daily so we can be home by the time out kids get home from school. We both like to spend time with our family and our full time jobs allow us to have a short cutting day. I also sell knives to add to the income and that is almost no work so I do that at night and weekends. I sure do respect all you folks that cut 10-25 yards a day every day of the work week. That would kill me! Keep up the good work and I will keep on reading! You are all my heros!:blob2:
ohiolawnguy
02-24-2002, 12:35 AM
allright been checking this one out-here goes this is the crew i run.
mondays mostly businesses, and non picky residentials-16 accounts
tuesdays- do not mow-odd job day.
wednesdays-postage stamp day 32 accounts
thursdays- large accounts and condo day-16 accounts
fridays-cream of the crop lawns lawns-25 accounts
keep in mind that if possible, we try to do any bush trimming, bed edging, things of that nature, while doing the mowing route. a little bit everyday, each week till complete. also round-up, and sometimes spraying f weeds in lawn.
myself, 2 other guys one full time one part time 48" wb, and 61" ZT
rule of thumb instituted many years ago. all bed edging to be completed by memorial day. all bush trimming(round one) to be completed by 4th of july. second round of bushtrimming before leaf season commences.
that was our basic route for 2001. 2002 not set in stone yet, due to minor changes, and new accounts.
Tim Canavan
02-24-2002, 02:21 AM
I'm new to this site and I enjoy reading what you guys write even though most of you guys are up north. My point being, things are different everywhere. It really doesn't matter how many you do in a day as long as you enjoy what you do and are satisfied with the money you are making. I hope you're good at what you do and make what you want out of you're buisness. This goes out to everybody.
Some of you guys are hilarious and should keep on writing.
Some of you guys are bitter and should learn to laugh a little.
Some of you guys are full of it and that's o.k. too.
All in all it just makes this a great site to visit. Keep it up guys!
Now for some questions. Anybody from the south Texas area?
Anyone ever hear of Snapper or Lesco? You guys use Honda commercial (hrc216)? How about echo trimmers and blowers?
Can you tell what I use. Oh yeah, did I see that some of you don't edge the beds every time? Is that just in the winter months or all of the time? Must be an up north thing? Thanks. Reply at your own convenience.
LAWNGODFATHER
02-24-2002, 04:31 AM
Snapper like as in Red Snapper, good fish
Honda makes good cars motorcycles and atv's.
Lesco is that a discount mall or dollar store?
Red Max!!!
i do mine according to gross take .need a certain figure to
make it a break even day . another figure for a money making day.course its not that simple but u get the idea.
a friend of mine ,says he has to gross 1400 a day to come out .
he has a nice operation.later now
AGG Lawn Maintenance
02-24-2002, 09:51 AM
Chuck the key is in the routes. On Thursdays we do all our work in a 2 mile radius. We did as much as 28 in 8 1/2 hours with a 2 man crew. My best guy and myself. I run 2 man crews and route 15 lawns a day per crew. This is a good number just in case we run into down time or rain. Alot of guys around me run 3 man crews and do around 20 lawns a day each. The best thing to do is work with a number you can handle. I see too many guys over booking accounts and doing $%#$%# work. You maybe banging out 30 or 40 houses a day but how do they look. Did you edge and trim too?
Travis
Tim Canavan
02-24-2002, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by LAWNGODFATHER
Snapper like as in Red Snapper, good fish
Honda makes good cars motorcycles and atv's.
Lesco is that a discount mall or dollar store?
Red Max!!!
That's pretty good coming from the self-proclaimed GODFATHER himself. How about telling us what you use (besides the ex-mark) and why you like it. Are you an ex-mark dealer or something?
LAWNGODFATHER
02-24-2002, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Tim Canavan
That's pretty good coming from the self-proclaimed GODFATHER himself. How about telling us what you use (besides the ex-mark) and why you like it. Are you an ex-mark dealer or something?
Some where in my many posts I have siad it many times, so it come down to staying active with posting a few jokes here and there to keep interested in this forum, untill somthing comes up worth a real post.
No I am not a dealer as of yet for any mowers.
I like eXmarks because they haven't let me down like other brands have. The cut is ecellent and is hard to compair to any other mower. I keep all eXmark mowers box stock (no double blades or striping kits) with the exception of Nelson cyclonic air filters. I use Silver Streak high lift blades because they are cheaper than Exmark, and I think they supply Exmark anyways, but they cut well. I perferr Kohlers because they have given me many many reliable hours with minimal problems (have had 1 lemon prior).
Exmark mowers are all priced right and have proven them selves well in this industry and they are with out a doubt the indusrty leader in commercial mowers. Need I say more? You have a multi use mower, discharge, bag, or mulch, what more can you ask for? Nothing
Like eXmark says "nobody does it better".
What else I use? I have 2 Dixie Choppers I bought a week or so ago, because the price was right. I have other brands but they don't come close to the eXmarks, so they stay as back up mowers (and they don't get used much)(only when we get behind and need more mowers out mowing).
I would stick with only eXmark but hey can't win them all.
BTW the name was given to me, I did not choose it.:blob1:
Oh yeah Red Max for the trimmers and blowers cause I bought the blowers and well they blow good, so I bought some trimmers too.
Anything else?
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