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londonrain
09-30-2007, 11:03 AM
Worked on a repair job last week with low flow on zone. Mainline is a 2" with 1 1/2" and 1" laterals. Valve is a 1 1/2" PGA so I replaced the solenoid, same problem...Drained the main and checked the diaphragm, same problem.
Uncovered the first head and flex pipe was kinked. Replaced Kinked flex pipe and now we have flow on 1 head. Uncovered the next head and still no flow, now I say clogged lateral lines...

PurpHaze
09-30-2007, 11:06 AM
Wow London... I'd say those are beyond clogged. More like totally impacted... like a sphincter muscle during constipation. :laugh:

FIMCO-MEISTER
09-30-2007, 11:13 AM
1 by 1/2 st ell. You will rarely run into those in Dallas. Everything gets bushed down which means that mess would have jammed in the 3/4 by 1/2 by 1/2 tee

CAPT Stream Rotar
09-30-2007, 11:18 AM
wow london...

Great picture!!!!!!
I ,being a growing pup, have never seen anything that compacted ever...well not with small stones....Just dirt!!

Thanks for sharing..

londonrain
09-30-2007, 11:21 AM
More came out when we flushed the lines via a 90 pushed on the end with a few feet of pipe, pointing way from the hole.....

PurpHaze
09-30-2007, 11:21 AM
We see downstream clog conditions like these more when outside contractors (i.e. plumbers, low voltage & Cable guys, electricians, etc.) are trenching and break one of our lines. They either aren't aware (or don't care) that the break can cause problems downstream of the actual break. We'd rather they just leave it open and then we'll go in and repair the problem... checking for downstream clogs while we're at it. That way we know that everything is properly up and running before we leave.

Kiril
09-30-2007, 11:28 AM
Right on. Did you find the cause?

londonrain
09-30-2007, 11:31 AM
I have a repair job for next week that I looked at on Friday. So far 80ft of 2" main and 1 1/2" laterals, wires plus a 1 1/2" PGA totally destroyed by a plumber. He was back-hoeing in a new 2" copper water line. He was going right over the old 2" line which is right under the irrigation. I suggested he dig on the side of the pipe and it will be much easier and that way he will not destroy the rest of the irrigation system..

PurpHaze
09-30-2007, 11:31 AM
wow london...

I ,being a growing pup, have never seen anything that compacted ever...well not with small stones....Just dirt!!

I wish I'd had a digital camera a couple of years ago when I ran into three Toro Super 600s clogged up completely with COCKROACHES. This was on a manual system with ASV where the roaches had crawled into the lateral lines via the relaxed ASV and either crawled or were blown through the lateral lines to the sprinkler head. Very messy.

The worse compacted laterals/heads I've ever run into was when we contracted out the rerouting of a 3" main line so a building could go in. Contractor used the "sledge hammer the new main under the sidewalk" method of boring and never cleaned out the main before reconnecting to the system. All the rocks went downstream and wiped out five valves and about 20 Toro 300 Stream Rotors. The 300s' large screen filters were so impacted that they had actually collapsed, cracking the threaded areas and popping up the internal portion of the sprinkler from the body. It took days to flush the system out and replace everything.

londonrain
09-30-2007, 11:33 AM
Right on. Did you find the cause?
Installation of a French drain...over 6 months ago.

FIMCO-MEISTER
09-30-2007, 11:49 AM
Weirdest one I had was a bunch of baby brown snakes in a broken pipe flushed to popup. Scariest was a clogged nozzle after a repair and I removed the nozzle like I've done a million times before to quickly move to my mouth and blow out and just before I put it to my mouth noticed a huge spider with its butt jammed in the bottom of the nozzle still alive and flailing wildly.

Kiril
09-30-2007, 11:56 AM
Beyond the usual debris, I quite often get nozzles clogged with slugs and earwigs.

Wet_Boots
09-30-2007, 04:10 PM
In brass full-circle nozzles, I'd sometimes see a bunch of small pink worms (slugs?) clogging up the swirl plate. Not easy to clear, being that they were still alive and not wanting to relocate.