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CAPT Stream Rotar
10-04-2007, 04:00 PM
well here is a few..

firs ill get you a few cape pics..
This is the Pioneer of irrigation on cape cod in the late 70's and early 80's..Put in thousands of systems across south eastern Mass..Been installing for 33 years...Older that I am..I respect his opinion and design method...He taught me a ton of trouble shooting small tricks to save $$ and time on jobs.
No, this is not the drunk but my boy ronnie....If any of you ever asked me for a reference He would be the first to give it.....
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1217932_Library3785.jpg


casa del hermit crabs
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1217931_Library3778.jpg

draining the dock faucet..We install and maintain many of these dock faucets...The rich people love em...

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1217930_Library3775.jpg


the day got better than this
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1217928_Library3770.jpg

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-04-2007, 04:05 PM
keep the wake down guys
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1217952_Library3774.jpg

Our set up for Ron's accounts, we are guessing we can pound out 75-100 a week.
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1217953_Library3783.jpg

steam, smells funny
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1217954_Library3787.jpg

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1217955_Library3791.jpg

the bush, the bush, the bush is on fire!
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1217956_Library3790.jpg

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1217957_Library3794.jpg

Mike Leary
10-04-2007, 04:13 PM
Nice pics...ROTAR..especially of the old geezer..looks like me & Peter!

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-04-2007, 04:21 PM
Nice pics...ROTAR..especially of the old geezer..looks like me & Peter!


Thanks mike...Myself and ronnie have a great working relationship...I do all the leg work...he is the PR man, he lets me flag jobs, pull jobs while telling me what i need to improve on...I learned much from him this year..he is 67 years old and can still to this day dig a MEAN DITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1217998_Library3802.jpg

the rig...manual reel..its a Lindsay Air compressor that holds about 50 or so pounds, and operates max @ 40 cfm in a good day....Its perfect for getting in tight spots.

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1217999_Library3803.jpg

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1218000_Library3805.jpg

lol we were joking that this compressor has seen better days, but still pounds em out like a champ.
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1218001_Library3813.jpg

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1218002_Library3817.jpg

nice boots
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1218003_Library3818.jpg

Sorry WB for the file sizes.

hoskm01
10-04-2007, 04:31 PM
Cool pics, looks wet there!

Mike Leary
10-04-2007, 04:36 PM
Jeez ROTAR..now you got me jazzed to start winterizing too! Looks like I
will this year 'cause Hank just fired a pretty good irri prospect who, by his
own fault, lost Hank's trust..& that's all it takes for most of us.

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-04-2007, 04:48 PM
hoskm-Its real weird weather out here 40 'F one morning 65 the next...


Mike-If he lost hanks trust I'm sure it was a serious matter...I am always straight foward with el heffe..Like for example today i asked my boss when i would be getting laid off because i MIGHT be going down south to work for the winter...

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-04-2007, 04:59 PM
Last round of the day..

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1218123_Library3826.jpg


HACK A DOOODLEDOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
NO NOT MY WORK MIKE LEARY!

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1218124_Library3827.jpg

from a far.

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1218126_Library3828.jpg

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1218127_Library3833.jpg

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1218128_Library3835.jpg

yuck..
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1218129_Library3849.jpg

bckind
10-04-2007, 11:37 PM
how can u get by with such small cfm(compressor)? residentials i can see, but we do some lake properties where a leroi185 won't cut it, 210 just barely. who ever designed these systems wasn't thinking about blowin em out. 30+ plus heads, big pump. any suggestions?

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-05-2007, 06:31 AM
how can u get by with such small cfm(compressor)? residentials i can see, but we do some lake properties where a leroi185 won't cut it, 210 just barely. who ever designed these systems wasn't thinking about blowin em out. 30+ plus heads, big pump. any suggestions?

Yikes..sounds like a nightmare...you must have some great water pressure or stupid IT's. I would tell the HO somthing needs to be done...Either elimate heads, make new zones, possibly install a QCV like mike leary @ the end of each overloaded zone?Have you tried to cap a few heads on the end? Have you tried to blow out the system from the last head..

I mean 210 cfm barely getting the job done?

::falls oveR::

Mike Leary
10-05-2007, 05:37 PM
how can u get by with such small cfm(compressor)? residentials i can see, but we do some lake properties where a leroi185 won't cut it, 210 just barely. who ever designed these systems wasn't thinking about blowin em out. 30+ plus heads, big pump. any suggestions?

Dual 190s ought to get it..one at each end! We have a couple of biggies
where we used to use the 190, then found if we hit the zones twice or as
ROTAR commented, found a better P.O.C. for the quick couples (1") we
could use the 125...lotsa heat playing with the big boys!

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-08-2007, 06:14 PM
ok guys here is a few more blow pics...

we knocked out 25 today with 2 guys...other truck banged out 14 big ones..

all>all good day..kind of wet but i need the hours.
back yard all I-20's
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4067.jpg

This guy needs to lay cap a few heads but would rather waste water.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4071.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4075.jpg

Our standard setup.pvb sch 40 after the back flow....
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4072.jpg

last head on zone.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4080.jpg


:weightlifter: :weightlifter: :weightlifter: :weightlifter:

Mike Leary
10-08-2007, 06:30 PM
[QUOTE=CAPT Stream Rotar;1989449.kind of wet but i need the hours.
back yard all I-20's:[/QUOTE]

Love winterize pics! I believe you're a MAC guy, what software do you use
to post pics?

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-08-2007, 06:32 PM
Love winterize pics! I believe you're a MAC guy, what software do you use
to post pics?

you would be correct my good buddy.

I use a cannon rebel xti >my mac book with I photo 6>photobucket to host...

well ill get some more blow out pics tomorrow!!

how was you day mike?

Mike Leary
10-08-2007, 06:47 PM
Good, Eddie..finishing running my house moving & irri re route project.
Work for next year unless we figure a scam to take over irri in Cal. & Ariz.
Hope to see Purple, Kril & Hoskman...taking my collection of brass nozzles
south in November..will we see you?

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-08-2007, 06:52 PM
Good, Eddie..finishing running my house moving & irri re route project.
Work for next year unless we figure a scam to take over irri in Cal. & Ariz.
Hope to see Purple, Kril & Hoskman...taking my collection of brass nozzles
south in November..will we see you?

I MIGHT be going to las Vegas..

Don't think i will be in san dE for the IA...

I want to go but boss man needs to pay $$ so i can get certified.

Now that sounds like a mob...drink a beer for me!!!!!!!!!!


CSR

Mike Leary
10-08-2007, 06:57 PM
IA in San Diego not on the list anymore..all I would do would spend money
better spent in Arizona. I like mobs, would be something to put all of us in
the rubber room at the same time! :dizzy:

WalkGood
10-08-2007, 11:03 PM
Saw one off these backflow devices mounted sideways.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4072.jpg


The cap or canopy was on it's side, turned 90* from the above pic. How bad is that?

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-09-2007, 04:50 PM
The cap or canopy was on it's side, turned 90* from the above pic. How bad is that?

Sideways...HA!!! I wouldn't say its bad...I 99.9% of them I have seen are always vertical..I'm pretty sure it won't make much of a difference...In my few years I have seen them installed everywhere..One account we have has 3 Febco PVB's 1 inch installed in the ground(home-owner/DIY nightmare).What is on the inside is a Bonnet/Popet...The popet sits on a spindle with a spring on it..When the main is turned on the popet shoots up to the top of the mushroom and allows water to flow..Hence its a Pressure Vacum Breaker..When water pressure is applied to the pvb it allows optimal flow, and when the pressure stops the popet sits back @ the bottom of the spindle creating an air gap,allowing for no cross contamination.
not sure if that makes sense.
Def no biggie, IMHO.The water will flow fine. I would def pitch a revamp to the account though...Sometimes people just don't care as long as it works..


here is a few blow out pics for you mike.
Big zone.@ one point I came back to raise everyone of these..hehe
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4088.jpg


wet trash!HA!


http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4085.jpg

Not sure if you get this stuff around south and all but this is bent grass and is a PITA to kill..It loves water...but when you cut it looks brown and hacked.
the grass grows sideways not up and down...Any how this account is in shambles and is completely run with it..Chick weed,crab grass,Dollar spot,red thread...
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4097.jpg


http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4095.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4100.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4119.jpg

All of this account is off a well...Our compressor was barely pushing enough to blow this one out..

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4121.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4115.jpg

Shambles..Really needs to get on a program.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4127.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4131.jpg

Mike Leary
10-09-2007, 04:54 PM
Thanks Rotar..jeez I'd be thinking about changing lawn service around there,
or putting 12" rotors in. Are you not going to Arizona?

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-09-2007, 04:59 PM
Thanks Rotar..jeez I'd be thinking about changing lawn service around there,
or putting 12" rotors in. Are you not going to Arizona?

I was actually going to PM hoskm01 and see what his story is....He expressed interest..I was told that by the middle of November I will be let go(after blow outs). So hopefully we can work something out for after thanksgiving...

::crosses fingers::

Yhea that lawn service sucks..I think the sons are taking care of it..
The homeowner =92 year old man with alzheimers(sp). They could care less what it looks like...It used to look good.But it went south and never came back...Just like the HO.
I think every lawn disease on cape cod is represented on this lawn!

lol

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-09-2007, 05:07 PM
In this pic if you follow the shovel handle to the metal hinge Middle of pic to the part with the screw coming out we have a problem..The screw needs to be bigger holding this hinge higher..Not sure if you all have ever had these problems with these compressors.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4141.jpg

a good shot of her
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4142.jpg

POC for the blow out.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4143.jpg

I had to stick my finger into this end opening..A sprinkler used to be there..I got a little muddy arrgg.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4143.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4134.jpg

Mike Leary
10-09-2007, 05:20 PM
::no comment about layout of turf/planting circle in last pic:::hammerhead:

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-09-2007, 05:27 PM
::no comment about layout of turf/planting circle in last pic:::hammerhead:

I know it..Mike trust me...Ive seen more bogus sh!t on this dudes accounts...His spray and rotor combo's are "run of the mill for me now" which sucks..I'll be nice to Ronnie though..he is as we say A PISSAH!!!!!

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-09-2007, 07:11 PM
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4147.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4145.jpg

another leaky valve box.thank you toro flowpro
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guess who
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Mike Leary
10-09-2007, 07:16 PM
Great pics! Who's the dickwad in pic # 7?:rolleyes:

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-09-2007, 07:17 PM
Not sure who I had an agrument with (krilil) but someone told me that roses like water @ their pedals over the roots system.The roses were sprayed by hunter sprays.Yes turf/beds which is a no no..BUT, i didn't put it in..
IMHO all roses should be done in drip...This is what happens when even 8 mins of water hits the pedals of these roses in direct sunlight in a mulch bed.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4200.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4199.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4203.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4195.jpg

Not sure if its a New England thing but this is commonplace.
Maybe the cool nights not sure...

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4185.jpg

Mike Leary
10-09-2007, 07:27 PM
Not sure if its a New England thing but this is commonplace.
Maybe the cool nights not sure...


Mildew & leaf spot are common on both sides of the coast. Roses need air
movement & good solar exposure. We've has great results using 6" pops w/flat spray heads.
if they're in the wrong place or getting hammered by rotors (:dizzy:),
even too much spray at the wrong time..problems. Sniff sniff I love them.

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-09-2007, 07:33 PM
Mildew & leaf spot are common on both sides of the coast. Roses need air
movement & good solar exposure. We've has great results using 6" pops w/flat spray heads.
if they're in the wrong place or getting hammered by rotors (:dizzy:),
even too much spray at the wrong time..problems. Sniff sniff I love them.

I agree the 6 pop with a stream spray is a fantastic way to water the roses...

other than that its a crap shoot.....

Mike Leary
10-09-2007, 07:36 PM
I agree the 6 pop with a stream spray is a fantastic way to water the roses...

other than that its a crap shoot.....

FLAT spray..don't want water on leaf surface.:hammerhead:

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-09-2007, 07:40 PM
FLAT spray..don't want water on leaf surface.:hammerhead:

flat spray????that wont throw that far in a rose bed,will it?

how many feet do you flat sprays throw mr mike?

Kiril
10-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Not sure who I had an agrument with (krilil) but someone told me that roses like water @ their pedals over the roots system.

Not me brother, I don't recommended over head watering for anything other than turf and GC

Kiril
10-09-2007, 08:18 PM
flat spray????that wont throw that far in a rose bed,will it?

how many feet do you flat sprays throw mr mike?

You should know the answer to that, he has posted it enough times. ;)

5 FOOT SPACINGS

EagleLandscape
10-09-2007, 08:20 PM
black spot of rose is what that junk is. (CuSO4)copper sulfate will take care of it.

BrandonV
10-09-2007, 08:58 PM
most commercail rose grower (hybrid teas) actually use low mounted sprays or somthing like stream spray nozzled. the heads a usually 2-4" tall and spray below where the leaves are. Some newer "near wild roses" are more resistant to this, but for those customers who love the teas bubblers or drip is the way to go. sucks that we don't have to blow out stuff here looks like fun... we'll not start winterizing the probably for another month at least

FIMCO-MEISTER
10-09-2007, 09:03 PM
I use sheshrubblers for roses. Seriously. She was right about the stream spray shrubblers on netafim for roses. The water comes out with no mist in a downward direction. Put three around each rose.

WalkGood
10-09-2007, 09:07 PM
Sideways...HA!!! I wouldn't say its bad...I 99.9% of them I have seen are always vertical..I'm pretty sure it won't make much of a difference...In my few years I have seen them installed everywhere..One account we have has 3 Febco PVB's 1 inch installed in the ground(home-owner/DIY nightmare).What is on the inside is a Bonnet/Popet...The popet sits on a spindle with a spring on it..When the main is turned on the popet shoots up to the top of the mushroom and allows water to flow..Hence its a Pressure Vacum Breaker..When water pressure is applied to the pvb it allows optimal flow, and when the pressure stops the popet sits back @ the bottom of the spindle creating an air gap,allowing for no cross contamination.
not sure if that makes sense.
Def no biggie, IMHO.The water will flow fine. I would def pitch a revamp to the account though...Sometimes people just don't care as long as it works..



Thanks Ed. Yeah I already knew WHAT it is and what's inside ... I just never saw one installed sideways. It must be working, just didn't know if it "likes" to be installed sideways for long service life.

Better than UPSIDE DOWN I guess!

Optimal flow is all relative tho! LOL

WalkGood
10-09-2007, 09:12 PM
It's a good thing that Mother Nature knows how to NOT rain on rose leaves. And also to rain different amounts on grass areas versus shrubbery.

:rolleyes: :laugh:

greenmonster304
10-09-2007, 09:13 PM
::no comment about layout of turf/planting circle in last pic:::hammerhead:

are you refering to the landscape design or the lay out of sprinklers?

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-10-2007, 06:23 AM
are you refering to the landscape design or the lay out of sprinklers?

I'm guessing the sprinks.

BUT on that particular account the toro 600's have been in the ground for almost 20 years give or take....no lie..

needless to say the landscape can change in 20 years..

I bet if we went to your jobs that you put int 20 years ago mr leary they would be a little different...or do your jobs not age?

Flow Control
10-10-2007, 06:30 AM
Rotar,

Keep the pics going. I am too busy (or lazy depending how you look at it) to take the time out of my day.

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-10-2007, 06:45 AM
Thanks ICS..today i'm gettin yanked off blow outs for a 10 zoner install..

300 yards of dirt have been dropped in..Its been rainy the past few days so this will be interesting.

Pics will be taken...

have a good day!

PurpHaze
10-10-2007, 08:50 AM
BUT on that particular account the toro 600's have been in the ground for almost 20 years give or take....no lie..


The Toro Super 600 was/is a good sprinkler. Major PITA with them is the arc setting method and the potential for the nozzle turret set screw loosening making the sprinkler either not rotate any longer or rotating in the wrong area. They are also susceptible to cracking at the cap curvature if bumped by a mower or whacked by a string trimmer. We have some in the ground that are 25+ years old. They get changed out to Hunter I-20s with SS risers when they go out.

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-10-2007, 05:13 PM
The Toro Super 600 was/is a good sprinkler. Major PITA with them is the arc setting method and the potential for the nozzle turret set screw loosening making the sprinkler either not rotate any longer or rotating in the wrong area. They are also susceptible to cracking at the cap curvature if bumped by a mower or whacked by a string trimmer. We have some in the ground that are 25+ years old. They get changed out to Hunter I-20s with SS risers when they go out.


I totally agree the 600 are a PITA to adjust after 15 or so years..They use the water very well..Great distance of throw coupled with a healthy spray pattern, its a awsome head..Durable ect...

Purp what does SS risers mean?

Mike Leary
10-10-2007, 05:17 PM
Stainless steel..my choice too.

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-10-2007, 05:19 PM
Stainless steel..my choice too.

And now mr leary, by SS risers he means the shaft inside the head?

or the 3/4 riser in the ground?

EDIT:Today i went on blow em outs instead of this rather large install...Which was fine by me cause it was a mud bowl...

some pics

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4283.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4282.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4280.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4278.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4276.jpg

Mike Leary
10-10-2007, 05:22 PM
:: gets whip out::Purp means the pop up riser (see I-20 6" Ultra SS), only
Kiril would use a SS shrub riser or swing joint.:dizzy:

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-10-2007, 05:26 PM
last head


http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4273.jpg

with water in the pipes
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4269.jpg

with out water
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4272.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4267.jpg

spray heads
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4265.jpg

last head on this zone,and a very stupid one i might add
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4262.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4261.jpg

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http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4242.jpg

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-10-2007, 05:27 PM
:: gets whip out::Purp means the pop up riser (see I-20 6" Ultra SS), only
Kiril would use a SS shrub riser.:dizzy:

i think out west and out east has different names for a riser..

you mean the shaft of the head is stainless steel *trucewhiteflag* *trucewhiteflag*

Kiril
10-10-2007, 05:30 PM
:: gets whip out::Purp means the pop up riser (see I-20 6" Ultra SS), only
Kiril would use a SS shrub riser or swing joint.:dizzy:

Don't forget the brass plating on the SS riser. ;)

Mike Leary
10-10-2007, 05:31 PM
i think out west and out east has different names for a riser..

you mean the shaft of the head is stainless steel *trucewhiteflag* *trucewhiteflag*

Yep:::gets whip ready:::: the part with the nozzle in it!

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-10-2007, 07:14 PM
These look familiar old timers????
purp,pete,mike,kiril,london?

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4241.jpg

Flush valve on the drip system blowing out.I personally don't like burying flush valves..but whatever.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4237.jpg

I love the rainbird esp with modular's
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4236.jpg

Sideview of drip system that was booming with growth this year.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4228.jpg

I love mp's on the 12' 1804 spray bodies..a match made in heaven
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4227.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4224.jpg

Grampy on leave from the senior home
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4216.jpg

nice view
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4213.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4210.jpg

Rotard
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4209.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4205.jpg

Mike Leary
10-10-2007, 07:18 PM
Nice pics Eddie...yass we've seen those piece of junk clocks, like every clock
Toro ever made, except the ones they bought from another (quality) firm &
ran them out of the biz....Toro bites IMHO. By the way, out here on the coast,
a 12" hi pop is a 1812.:rolleyes:

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-10-2007, 07:23 PM
Nice pics Eddie...yass we've seen those piece of junk clocks, like every clock
Toro ever made, except the ones they bought from another (quality) firm &
ran them out of the biz....Toro bites IMHO. By the way, out here on the coast,
a 12" hi pop is a 1812.:rolleyes:

I couldn't agree with you more mike..

If I could i would tear out every toro clock and valve and mini 8 and burn them in Riverside Cali infront of their home office.


Their 570 with the fixed spray I will tip my hat to...They have the best fixed and van nozzles out there right now...

::braces for rapture::

Mike Leary
10-10-2007, 07:26 PM
::braces for rapture::

Rapture given, my son.:)

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-10-2007, 07:27 PM
Rapture given, my son.:)



HA!!!!!!!!!!!!

*trucewhiteflag* *trucewhiteflag*

w00t!

FIMCO-MEISTER
10-10-2007, 08:11 PM
My customers sure loved the EL 6+. Simple to use with that manual zone switch by each zone. Turn a zone to off to bypass it. To me it was a drop down from the Imperial.

FIMCO-MEISTER
10-10-2007, 08:13 PM
Their 570 with the fixed spray I will tip my hat to...They have the best fixed and van nozzles out there right now...

::braces for rapture::

In plastic yes. Compared to brass they S U C K

Mike Leary
10-10-2007, 09:38 PM
I've not seen a pic of ROTAR wearing a hat..how could he tip it?
Yep..miss Imperial.:cry: :cry:

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-10-2007, 09:42 PM
I've not seen a pic of ROTAR wearing a hat..how could he tip it?
Yep..miss Imperial.:cry: :cry:

In the cold weather times a hat can be seen on my head...

Fimco-Only brass nozzles i have ever used are the weathermatics...
And i actually thought they were great for high pressure systems...

Mike Leary
10-10-2007, 09:50 PM
WM great from 28 to whatever the size of the zone is..misting real easy..
I'd design a WM brass zone to 30-35 depending on windage..Adjustable PRV
makes them shine! Too much pressure..:nono:

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-10-2007, 09:58 PM
WM great from 28 to whatever the size of the zone is..misting real easy..
I'd design a WM brass zone to 30-35 depending on windage..Adjustable PRV
makes them shine! Too much pressure..:nono:

we got a well account with way to much pressure....Like blowing through valves every year pressure..but those 17 ft nozzles do a pretty good job....

PurpHaze
10-10-2007, 10:57 PM
By the way, out here on the coast,
a 12" hi pop is a 1812.:rolleyes:

Or a Hunter INST-12-CV. We don't use Rainbird (except the 6405 Falcon HS and those will be discontinued also) and I tear out every one I can. :)

Tore out some Rainbird R-50s on cut-off poly risers [yes, Rotar... "riser" has different meanings depending on whether or not it's part of the sprinkler :) ] today. Replaced because they're junk (IMHO) and we converted this former do-gooder area to MP-Rotators.

Note: How big of a freakin' body and motor does Rainbird need for a small sprinkler pop-up riser and turret that puts out so little water? But the Maxi-Paw tinka-tinka-tinka sound is pretty cute. :laugh:

Kiril
10-11-2007, 09:04 AM
Despite Toro's dubious reputation, something can be said about the reliability of those old electro-mechanical controllers.