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CAPT Stream Rotar
10-11-2007, 04:28 PM
The way both trucks have been going its looking like this will happen in about 3 week done tops...Which is good.......

me/partner have banged out 158 already.we average 17 a day with a 40 cfm compressor....Which is actually pretty good....Average 1500$ in work a day or so...Soon there after I will get the dole.......

I am already sick of them.....
ARGGGGH!

I would rather dig ditches in the hot sun with no water than do do 352
more....

::Puts self out of misery::

Flow Control
10-11-2007, 04:42 PM
I will take winterizing in 40 degree weather then installs in the 80's

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-11-2007, 04:47 PM
I will take winterizing in 40 degree weather then installs in the 80's


Not me..Don't get me wrong they are easy/simple/good money maker.

But I'm sick of the

"Hi Mrs. XYZ,can I please turn the water off?" Times about 350.....

This one lady Every year goes to me

" can you please move the lawn furniture into my cellar 300 yards away"

I did it for two years..She never gave up buffalo.

She said the same thing to me this year, I respond
"I'm sorry we have a tight schedule to keep"

HA!it felt good.and we did have keep track of time today.

Mike Leary
10-11-2007, 05:12 PM
We're all pretty fried after a season (I worked this year & winterize is yet to
go) but irrigation is a service industry & Mrs.XYZ makes you a living, so take
the crap & move on; it will soon be over.:hammerhead: :)

BSME
10-11-2007, 05:45 PM
I wish I could winterize year round...

bobw
10-11-2007, 07:06 PM
I've finished 207 in the last two weeks solo... and have 6 left for tomorrow and that's it... the beer will flow this weekend..

Mike Leary
10-11-2007, 07:26 PM
I've finished 207 in the last two weeks solo... and have 6 left for tomorrow and that's it... the beer will flow this weekend..

I bet the Rockies are getting pretty this time of year.:canadaflag: :drinkup:

bobw
10-11-2007, 07:35 PM
I bet the Rockies are getting pretty this time of year.:canadaflag: :drinkup:

They were spectacular a week or so ago; too much leave drop since then. However, I look out over to the west and a lot of peaks are already getting a good snowcap on them. This just might be the year I master moguls....

PurpHaze
10-11-2007, 10:21 PM
They were spectacular a week or so ago; too much leave drop since then. However, I look out over to the west and a lot of peaks are already getting a good snowcap on them. This just might be the year I master moguls....

Yippee... getting closer to them filming the new season of Ice Road Truckers then. :drinkup:

FIMCO-MEISTER
10-11-2007, 10:21 PM
I will take winterizing in 40 degree weather then installs in the 80's

Installs in the 80's!! What a dream. I'd still be doing them. Try installs in the 100s. If installs in the 80's is tough you would die in Texas.

DanaMac
10-11-2007, 11:03 PM
Without looking we've probably done 150-200 so far. Another 500-600 to go. very warm and mild so far. which is good because there is no way for me to keep up right now. This is allowing people to water a little longer and let me catch up and blow out later. Nothing like winterizing in shorts in upper 70s. Coaching kids football is getting in the way of work for me. Only one week left though.

Kiril
10-12-2007, 08:04 AM
Installs in the 80's!! What a dream. I'd still be doing them. Try installs in the 100s. If installs in the 80's is tough you would die in Texas.

:laugh: Ain't that the truth. Dammit, I can't seem to keep the pipe dry, where the heck is that water coming from? Oh yea. it's pouring off my face and arms in sheets.

amar
10-22-2007, 08:42 PM
Whats the minimum CFM you need for 10gpm zones on small ressies?

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-22-2007, 08:45 PM
we get the job done with a 40 cfm.
its small..but i have no problems with it

Mike Leary
10-23-2007, 03:36 PM
we get the job done with a 40 cfm.
its small..but i have no problems with it


How long does it take to do a 8-12 zoner, Eddie?

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-23-2007, 04:18 PM
How long does it take to do a 8-12 zoner, Eddie?

Under 20 mins from arrival, 1 guy goes inside activates the con then shuts the water off.I usually grab the hose fire up the compressor engage the push,Latch up to the 1 or 3/4 PVB. I usually wait for the sprinks to shut off, or an ok the the walkie to engage the air @ the back flow via our 1/2 ball valve..

I tell you all I'm not sure how you all do them but having a Ball valve @ the end of the air hose saves much walking! amen..

wewt did 18 today..w00T we have under 150 left for the season..Should be done with those in 2 weeks minus a few stragglers.

Mike Leary
10-23-2007, 04:29 PM
We do it in 15 min & I don't know if it's our 125 or the fact that we have
quick couples of the same dual lug key at each site. The key stays on the hose from site to site...plug in...some sites hit all the bleeders & blow, others
have the remote..tho w/ the 125 & easy access to valve boxes, we'll blow
multiples. Winterize is a two man operation for safety reasons if nothing else.

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-23-2007, 04:37 PM
We do it in 15 min & I don't know if it's our 125 or the fact that we have
quick couples of the same dual lug key at each site. The key stays on the hose from site to site...plug in...some sites hit all the bleeders & blow, others
have the remote..tho w/ the 125 & easy access to valve boxes, we'll blow
multiples. Winterize is a two man operation for safety reasons if nothing else.

I totally agree..Its always good to have 1 guy in ear shot of the compressor...Just in case.....

Your big into the QC for blow outs..So you go to each zone to blow them out?or like you said 3 or 2 hose's going?

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-23-2007, 04:54 PM
pic of said 1/2" ball valve

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/ballvalve.jpg

Mike Leary
10-23-2007, 05:40 PM
You guys and your exposed hanging off the house backflow assemblies
kill me. At least there was a Fuchia basket to hide somewhat.

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-23-2007, 05:43 PM
You guys and your exposed hanging off the house backflow assemblies
kill me. At least there was a Fuchia basket to hide somewhat.

If you look closer its covered by foliage/bush..

lay of the land brotha...

Mike Leary
10-23-2007, 05:45 PM
::grumble grumble::

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-23-2007, 05:51 PM
::grumble grumble::

Please stay on the west where the DCA=lay of the land..

PLEASE.

WalkGood
10-23-2007, 05:52 PM
You guys and your exposed hanging off the house backflow assemblies
kill me. At least there was a Fuchia basket to hide somewhat.

Do you build a "bird house" around them or just bury them in the ground somehow?

Mike Leary
10-23-2007, 06:12 PM
Do you build a "bird house" around them or just bury them in the ground somehow?

We big boys use DCVAs & RPVAs out west..bub...that kind of poppet busting
stuff is not our style.:weightlifter: RPs go in a enclosure w/ drain to sump,
DC in v.b.

BrandonV
10-23-2007, 07:06 PM
it varies here from place to place, just finished putting in a 1" RPVA in winston salem, of course it has to be inspected all the way down to thickness of concrete, type of above ground enclosure, heat strip wrap, and even type of conduit used... never seen one tested, but the gent showed me how the machine works, neat, they test everyone in the city EVERY year... over 8500... wow what a boring job

Mike Leary
10-23-2007, 07:19 PM
never seen one tested, but the gent showed me how the machine works, neat, they test everyone in the city EVERY year... over 8500... wow what a boring job

Yep, but CHA CHING! We're $50.00 a test out here. Let's see, $ 50 x 8500 .
Boring yes..but big & important part of our biz.

Wet_Boots
10-23-2007, 07:45 PM
You guys and your exposed hanging off the house backflow assemblies
kill me. At least there was a Fuchia basket to hide somewhat. Codes eliminate options, since the toxic-rated BP is installed above grade. There is the indoor RPZ option, of course, if you have it over a floor drain that can handle several thousand gallons-per-hour, in the event of major malfunction.

Mike Leary
10-23-2007, 07:54 PM
Codes eliminate options, since the toxic-rated BP is installed above grade. There is the indoor RPZ option, of course, if you have it over a floor drain that can handle several thousand gallons-per-hour, in the event of major malfunction.

Out here in Disney land, we permit RPZ outside w/ line sighted bored drains,
is it the harsh winters you have that prohibits that?

Wet_Boots
10-24-2007, 05:40 AM
"above grade" means above grade. I know about installing RPZs in boxes that don't flood, but the visible PVB is becoming fairly commonplace, and an all-copper-and-brass BP install darkens with time, unless the homeowner paints it.

jimmyburg
10-24-2007, 10:11 AM
In Fort Worth, our code is a RPZ must be 12 inches above grade. they will not let you put one in a vault, even if there is a drain port installed.

Kiril
10-24-2007, 10:52 AM
Yep, but CHA CHING! We're $50.00 a test out here. Let's see, $ 50 x 8500 .
Boring yes..but big & important part of our biz.

$50/inch out here. :rolleyes:

Kiril
10-24-2007, 11:03 AM
Codes eliminate options, since the toxic-rated BP is installed above grade. There is the indoor RPZ option, of course, if you have it over a floor drain that can handle several thousand gallons-per-hour, in the event of major malfunction.

I'm putting the RPZ for my house inside, no floor drain.

Wet_Boots
10-24-2007, 11:14 AM
I'm putting the RPZ for my house inside, no floor drain.Stupid. A diaphragm failure is not beyond the realm of possibility. They can and do fail. Particles can block an RPZ passageway (happened to one of mine, after some remodeling work was done on a house)

One mode of RPZ failure is for the relief valve to become wide open, with full pressure and flow pushing water from it.

Check your tables and tell us how much water can exit a dime-sized hole at 100 psi.

Kiril
10-24-2007, 11:31 AM
Stupid. A diaphragm failure is not beyond the realm of possibility. They can and do fail. Particles can block an RPZ passageway (happened to one of mine, after some remodeling work was done on a house)

One mode of RPZ failure is for the relief valve to become wide open, with full pressure and flow pushing water from it.

Check your tables and tell us how much water can exit a dime-sized hole at 100 psi.

:laugh: I knew that would put a bee in your bonnet.
I didn't say I wasn't going to drain it, just that there is no floor drain. :waving:

BTW, I would die for 100 PSI. I'll be lucky if I'm getting 40 PSI by the time it hits the RPZ.

Wet_Boots
10-24-2007, 11:41 AM
Isn't/hasn't there been mold issues in this house of yours? One should never install an RPZ indoors, unless you can duplicate a factory setting where one could be found, and that means a room waterproof walls and floor, and a floor drain.

Us former DCVA users went through something of a learning process when the RPZ was introduced, when a number of us believed distributor assurances that it installed just like a DCVA did.

Kiril
10-24-2007, 11:49 AM
Isn't/hasn't there been mold issues in this house of yours? One should never install an RPZ indoors, unless you can duplicate a factory setting where one could be found, and that means a room waterproof walls and floor, and a floor drain.

Us former DCVA users went through something of a learning process when the RPZ was introduced, when a number of us believed distributor assurances that it installed just like a DCVA did.

Oh yes, many mold issues.

Room is a small utility closet on the back of the garage. The RPZ drain will be piped directly to a 2" drain line that will run outside. The reason for installing it inside is so I can eliminate the need to maintain 2 backflow units, and to keep the ugly things out of my landscape.

I'm not that worried about it, that is unless the entire unit blows apart, in which event, the water to the entire house would be automatically shut off.

Wet_Boots
10-24-2007, 11:53 AM
Of course, you will be using the Wilkins RPZ with the relief-valve alarm option....

Kiril
10-24-2007, 12:15 PM
Of course, you will be using the Wilkins RPZ with the relief-valve alarm option....

Watts 009. The "alarm" and shutoff is part of the whole house automation.

Wet_Boots
10-24-2007, 02:54 PM
Do you use a lot of the Watts 009s at low pressures? I've had at least one that would drip from the relief at low pressures (PRV in house) and not when pressure was increased. I might think of an older, bulkier design, that has a larger diaphragm in the relief assembly, since force of closure is a factor of area.

jimmyburg
10-24-2007, 02:58 PM
Do you use a lot of the Watts 009s at low pressures? I've had at least one that would drip from the relief at low pressures (PRV in house) and not when pressure was increased. I might think of an older, bulkier design, that has a larger diaphragm in the relief assembly, since force of closure is a factor of area.

you could always use the Watts 909MOD, it made for high hot water temps but it can be used because of it being bulky.

Mike Leary
10-24-2007, 03:24 PM
but it can be used because of it being bulky.

Whut?.......explain, don't make me get my sch 40 hammer out just when
things were calming down.:eek:

Wet_Boots
10-24-2007, 03:36 PM
I would think a Watts 909 would be expensive compared to a Wilkins 975 or a Febco 825Y, unless they're made in China these days.

jimmyburg
10-24-2007, 03:41 PM
Whut?.......explain, don't make me get my sch 40 hammer out just when
things were calming down.:eek:

just referring to wet boots post on #40, you need glasses?
>>>>and waiting for the fall out<<<<<<<:rolleyes:

Mike Leary
10-24-2007, 03:53 PM
just referring to wet boots post on #40, you need glasses?
>>>>and waiting for the fall out<<<<<<<:rolleyes:

I have glasses, missed Boots's post tho, given your track record lately the
Jackal Viper was released in too much haste.:)

jimmyburg
10-24-2007, 04:05 PM
well on my 100th post, all is forgiven:waving: :clapping: :dancing: :)

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-24-2007, 04:09 PM
well on my 100th post, all is forgiven:waving: :clapping: :dancing: :)

Mike WHO??????

Kiril
10-25-2007, 09:32 AM
The 909 is expensive. ~ $400 for 1" compared to ~ $200 for the 009, however the 909 can be vertically mounted. Put SS into that 909 pushes up the cost to around $1200.

Oh, and no, I haven't had any problems with the 009 at low pressure, but then I don't use them that often either. I usually end up going with Febco or Wilkins for most of the jobs I spec, more for cost than any other reason.

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-26-2007, 04:29 PM
omg omg under 100 left.....

I CANT WAIT!!!!!!

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-26-2007, 04:57 PM
today i was by myself and knocked out only 10 but did much driving.


im tired.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4328.jpg

slide right into a tight spot with our set up
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4329.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4326.jpg


when done with blowout,step 1 kill the air
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4320.jpg

Throttle old bessy down nice and slow..treating her like the graceful woman she is
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4322.jpg

Carry(not drag) the end of the hose back to the truck..omg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4324.jpg

Reel her up with tailgate up of course neatly putting the hose back
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4313.jpg

gettin er done
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4339.jpg

the steam is mesmorizizng sometimes
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4338.jpg

I burried this girl like 4 months ago..Peep the grass trying to Pwn my valve box i kicked it back to snuff
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4333.jpg

omg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4349.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4342.jpg

horrible case of the crabgrass
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/windoraphan/Library-4347.jpg

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-26-2007, 05:05 PM
MJD Pwnt me again.

FIMCO-MEISTER
10-26-2007, 06:12 PM
like them Dickies. May have to get a pair mahself.

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-26-2007, 06:17 PM
like them Dickies. May have to get a pair mahself.


Paid 60 for em..

army navy.

WalkGood
10-26-2007, 10:50 PM
Lottsa brown dead grass around some of those heads. Install was 4 months ago? What happenned?

CAPT Stream Rotar
10-27-2007, 01:52 AM
Lottsa brown dead grass around some of those heads. Install was 4 months ago? What happenned?

crab grass infestiation..

H/O=not on a program...

The system runs like a top.