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Capemay Eagle
10-19-2007, 08:05 PM
http://www.dirtworks.net/Milky-Spore.html
Anyone ever try this. My freind is a long time LCO and swears by this stuff. I am going to apply it this week. He said it takes about two years to work.
Landude
10-20-2007, 12:06 PM
I have been using it for a few years. While it does work it's no match for
the grub problem this year. If you're goal is to knock them out now it won't do it..
Marcos
10-24-2007, 11:33 AM
Landude is right. Milky spore's goal is to 'spread plaugue' throughout the white grub population to wipe it out. Unfortunately, because, as you probably know, grubs change into beetles and back a couple times a year, it's just plain LUCK if any beetles come back and happen to drop any eggs in the area of turf where you spread your 'plaugue' of milky spore! And you're damned if you kill them all, too! Because that lessens the chance that the plaugue will be spread! But I DO KNOW some people who have bluegrass turf and use it and SWEAR by it. They just have to re-apply it occasionally.
Stillwater
11-13-2007, 07:16 AM
Milky spore is only for organic type tree huggers who are purests. Milky spore is KILLED the second you apply a herbicide or insecticide so if you do use weed control most likely your spores are dead and not protecting your lawn
Marcos
11-13-2007, 11:54 AM
Milky spore is only for organic type tree huggers who are purests. Milky spore is KILLED the second you apply a herbicide or insecticide so if you do use weed control most likely your spores are dead and not protecting your lawn
Oh, you're just feeling like a toot in the elevator today, aren't you eshskis?
Stillwater
11-13-2007, 12:11 PM
Oh, you're just feeling like a toot in the elevator today, aren't you eshskis?
ya, I don't know why I go off like that.... someone asked me yesterday if I was ok I just looked at them and said hu? what?
Stillwater
11-13-2007, 03:05 PM
If you see small grubs close to the surface that means they are hatching and on their way down to grow to adult size this is called pre-pupation so irregardless of the time of the season if you discover small grubs within 1.5 inches of the thatch layer apply a strong dose of fast acting grub control like Bayer Dylox and then water in with at least 1/2 to 1 inch of water if you have a thick thatch layer water a little more.
Milky although a great product for some people it will not help you right now your lawn could be consumed before it is integrated.
in April/may apply another dose of Dylox and water in.
A Grid pattern application of milky takes a long time to grow out and become effective. The cheapest place I have seen milky is Walmart in MA. I was shocked at how cheap they were selling it. I like milky but I am not a organic grass man, I have absolutely no patients for organic lawn care. My customers don't either.
NJLAWN#1
11-13-2007, 03:10 PM
Milky spore is only effective against japanese beetle grub, in our area the are becoming less common then they used to be.
Stillwater
11-13-2007, 03:23 PM
Milky spore is only effective against japanese beetle grub, in our area the are becoming less common then they used to be.
I did not know that..... thats good to know
Landude
11-13-2007, 10:49 PM
Well here in my area it's the Japanese beetle's and their offspring that's ripping the hell out of everything.
Eshskis.... what side of the fence are you on? Either it works or it doesn't ...
And is it really KILLED the second you apply a herbicide or insecticide?
I'm so confused.. :dizzy:
Stillwater
11-14-2007, 12:32 AM
Well here in my area it's the Japanese beetle's and their offspring that's ripping the hell out of everything.
Eshskis.... what side of the fence are you on? Either it works or it doesn't ...
And is it really KILLED the second you apply a herbicide or insecticide?
I'm so confused.. :dizzy:
No don't be confused it is simple, yes it works in the absence of herbicides and insecticides its effectiveness is limited though but if used with nematodes its effectiveness is acceptable to the organically minded. I am on the chemical side of the fence I was trying to be diplomatic by covering both sides with a open mind and trying not to trash someone else's sensibilities. Milky is a living organism and is fragile, yes it is killed outright maybe not the very second a herbicide is applied but is rendered ineffective within hrs with a inch or 2 of rain. So as not to confuse you any further yes it works but no it doesn't if you currently have active grub and damage. still confused?
Marcos
11-14-2007, 11:45 AM
And is it really KILLED the second you apply a herbicide or insecticide?
I'm so confused.. :dizzy:
It is true that Milky Spore just works on Jap Beetle.
But I disagree with the statement that all herbicides and insecticides will necessarily destroy 'Bacillus popillae'. That is an illogical assumption. Certainly overapplication, in my gut instinct, would cause problems. This topic deserves more research.
DUSTYCEDAR
11-14-2007, 11:53 AM
have seen it fail on more then one occasion so i am trying to find out why
lack of water?
not enough applied?
it was customers that did the apps and then got grubs.
Stillwater
11-14-2007, 12:56 PM
have seen it fail on more then one occasion so i am trying to find out why
lack of water?
not enough applied?
it was customers that did the apps and then got grubs.
ask them if they applied weed and feed
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