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Mike Leary
11-01-2007, 05:16 PM
Diesel here is $3.74 & climbing. We're going south to Arizona next week.
Weather depending, we'll either hop thru E. Oregon to Nevada & out to Salt
Lake & down thru Las Vegas or down I-5 thru Oregon & California, cutting
over the hill at Bakersfield. How's the fuel prices?:confused:

hoskm01
11-01-2007, 05:28 PM
I thought they were bad, but compared to 3.74, Im feeling pretty good. 259 for unlead and about 3.00 for diesel. Of course I have diesel. Thats Phoenix pricing. Further you are from the big city, its a bit more. Flagstaff is about 320 for diesel Ive heard from a friend.

bobw
11-01-2007, 05:50 PM
hmmm...time to do some conversions... 96.9/litre... about $3.90 CDN for a US gallon... so...... call it $4.10 USD/US gallon for Diesel...

BrandonV
11-01-2007, 08:13 PM
we're holding at $3.25/gal :-( i don't mind high fuel prices as long as diesel is cheaper than gas (like it's been the majority of my life, just doesn't make sense)

jcom
11-01-2007, 09:46 PM
We will be heading south NEXT Nov. . Anticipate a Nevada/Arizona destination.

Our first southern trip with our motorhome for the winter.

Looking for advice/opinions on where to go???

John

Kiril
11-01-2007, 10:57 PM
Last I saw it was somewhere around $3.55 - $3.65 here, and is considerably more expensive than any of the unleaded gases.

And darnit I need to fill up too :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Rotor_Tool
11-01-2007, 11:08 PM
Last I saw it was somewhere around $3.55 - $3.65 here, and is considerably more expensive than any of the unleaded gases.

And darnit I need to fill up too :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

When did Toyota put a diesel engine in the Prius? Aren't you always preaching conservation to us?:cool2:

Kiril
11-01-2007, 11:23 PM
When did Toyota put a diesel engine in the Prius? Aren't you always preaching conservation to us?:cool2:

:nono: Now everyone knows Pinto's rule!!!!

Southern Signature
11-01-2007, 11:47 PM
ya diesel is about $3.10 here in georgia and gas i wanna say is about $2.90... all our trucks are diesel though.

FIMCO-MEISTER
11-02-2007, 06:07 AM
Read these posts and my dream work truck/nap machine just went from a diesel back to unleaded.

Wet_Boots
11-02-2007, 09:28 AM
I want that 54 mpg kei micro-van they sell in Japan

irrig8r
11-02-2007, 12:54 PM
I think a Fiat DoblÚ would make a cool service vehicle...


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/Doblo.jpg

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Fiat DoblÚ
Manufacturer Fiat
Production 2001-present
Assembly Betim, Minas Gerais, Brazil (Fiat)
Bursa, Turkey (jv with Tofaş)
Naberezhnye Chelny, Russia (SeverstalAvto)
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
(Mekong Corp.)
Predecessor Fiat Fiorino II
Class Panel van / leisure activity vehicle
Layout FF layout
Wheelbase 2585 mm (101.8 in)
Length 4255 mm (167.5 in)
Width 1720 mm (67.7 in)
Height 1820 mm (71.7 in)


The Fiat DoblÚ is a panel van and leisure activity vehicle produced by Italian automaker Fiat since 2001. It was first launched to the public in Holland, and received the "2006 International Van of the Year" award by an international jury from 19 countries.

The DoblÚ carries a payload of up to 730 kg (1609 lb), with an interior volume of 3.2 m≥.

It is produced in Fiat's Tofaş subsidiary factory in Bursa, Turkey, in Brazil since 2002 and in Russia and Vietnam. Turkish models have an engine range that includes a 1.4-litre petrol, a 1.9-litre MultiJet, and a 16-valve 1.3-litre MultiJet. Brazilian Doblůs were available with two 16-valve petrol engines, a 1.3-litre Fire and a 1.6-litre Torque.

FIMCO-MEISTER
11-02-2007, 05:39 PM
Too bad Fiat stands for "Fix It Again Tony."

Mike Leary
11-02-2007, 06:04 PM
That's like the old line about the British electronics mfg, Lucas. "Do you know
why the Brits drink warm beer?, because Lucas makes the refrigerators".
"Masters of darkness"..another Lucas line.

irrig8r
11-02-2007, 06:04 PM
Well, this is going to veer even further off topic.... but...

Fiat has been in and out of the US market over the years... a friend of mine who had a Fiat 600 back in H.S. and started a shop specializing in Fiats and other Italian cars expanded his business by buying up their parts inventory last time they pulled out of the US, which allowed him to expand his business and do Internet parts sales... bottom line is I have a good friend who works on them .. and if you know anyone who has a Fiat that needs work, orhas one to sell or wants to buy oneChris knows his stuff...

http://www.fiatplus.com/

He almost talked me into buying a vintage Multipla once upon a time, but I just didn't have the time to restore it.. he drove his own Mulltipla up to Alaska and back on the AlCan Highway when it was still mostly gravel...

londonrain
11-02-2007, 07:58 PM
Diesel Fuel $2.99
Regular Gas $2.61

irrig8r
11-02-2007, 08:27 PM
Regular unleaded gas here...
Lowest reported self-serve price in the valley 3.06, my neighborhood 3.17 (ARCO).
Highest reported self-serve price for regular 3.49 (Shell).
I have no idea about diesel.

dcondon
11-02-2007, 09:12 PM
Regular gas today was $3.19
Diesel $ 3.36

BrandonV
11-04-2007, 07:43 AM
my brother who drives from Asheboro, NC to Cheraw, Sc everyday for work (total 172miles a day) calculated it out that in his VW jetta diesel would have to reach a price of $5.15 for him to justify the switch to a gas car. That's with gas holding at its current price.

FIMCO-MEISTER
11-04-2007, 08:09 AM
my brother who drives from Asheboro, NC to Cheraw, Sc everyday for work (total 172miles a day) calculated it out that in his VW jetta diesel would have to reach a price of $5.15 for him to justify the switch to a gas car. That's with gas holding at its current price.

Interesting. I was wondering the same thing. i know a cab forward Isuzu gets about 9-10. I've been told a diesel version gets around 14. You pay about 7,000 more for the diesel engine. They tell me you need to average 35,000 miles to justify getting the diesel version. i guess you recoup some upfront cost when you sell. Will diesel gas stay within 10-20% of regular? So many factors to decide on.

EagleLandscape
11-04-2007, 03:19 PM
we;re sitting at 2.99-3.09 for diesel

Mike Leary
11-04-2007, 03:21 PM
"Bess", our 32' Isuzu-powered mo/ho, gets a steady 15mpg, not bad for a
15 thousand pound (plus our crap) rig. Considering the the cost of the Isuzu
diesel, about 12K these days, only high milers should consider diesels IMHO.
Most motor homes get 5 to 9 mpg, we got 18 one year going from Phoenix
to San Diego..great tail wind. I love our Isuzu!

FIMCO-MEISTER
11-04-2007, 03:43 PM
"Bess", our 32' Isuzu-powered mo/ho, gets a steady 15mpg, not bad for a
15 thousand pound (plus our crap) rig. Considering the the cost of the Isuzu
diesel, about 12K these days, only high milers should consider diesels IMHO.
Most motor homes get 5 to 9 mpg, we got 18 one year going from Phoenix
to San Diego..great tail wind. I love our Isuzu!

Maybe I could get the BAMBI Airstream and hook to the back of yours.:)

Mike Leary
11-04-2007, 04:39 PM
Maybe I could get the BAMBI Airstream and hook to the back of yours.:)

If you could cook your chili & briskets..mite take you up on that!:)

dcondon
11-04-2007, 08:01 PM
we;re sitting at 2.99-3.09 for diesel

Thats nothing because today gas went to $3.29 and Diesel is at $3.59:nono:

Mike Leary
11-04-2007, 08:14 PM
We just went to $3.80....have to fuel before we bail south..hope diesel
gets better along the road.

FIMCO-MEISTER
11-04-2007, 08:59 PM
At 93/barrel the prices at the pump are still lagging. We'll have 4.50/gal by year end.

hoskm01
11-05-2007, 11:09 AM
Up to 3.12 here now, not getting any better, for us that is. Mike should find a small reprieve here.

jimmyburg
11-05-2007, 11:15 AM
im going back to Bio Diesel, its a little cheaper.

Mike Leary
11-05-2007, 04:04 PM
im going back to Bio Diesel, its a little cheaper.

You have any fuel filter problems running bio?

jimmyburg
11-05-2007, 04:21 PM
You have any fuel filter problems running bio?

no, i have a 2002 f250 7.3L, my mechanic told me we need to change the filter everytime we do a oil change. i ran bio earlier this year and changed back. he told me the older diesal engines can not run on bio unless they change out the fuel lines with stainless, and get rid of the rubber lines because the bio eats through the tubing or something like that. thats what i was told. I fueled up today in fort worth reg diesal 3.24 gal - bio 3.02gal for 80-20 mix at 100% is 2.99 gal

Mike Leary
11-05-2007, 04:49 PM
It just blows me away the disparity in fuel prices thruout the country.
North of here, up by the border, is our largest refinery. The good people of
Bellingham have the highest prices in the state! Go figure. My mechanic just
told me if I'm going to run bio, my low pressure return line, which is rubber,
should be replaced (eventually it'll soften) with a rubberlike compound called
"viton"tubing, apparently easily obtained.

BrandonV
11-05-2007, 06:29 PM
anyone run bio in bigger trucks? i got 2 cats and 2 cummins that are thirsty, thought about getting a bio diesel tank

Mike Leary
11-05-2007, 07:29 PM
anyone run bio in bigger trucks? i got 2 cats and 2 cummins that are thirsty, thought about getting a bio diesel tank

From what I gather from the bio-god, Hank Reardon...buy the bio from a
geek that knows how to filter it...run 80 /20 with bio on low end for a while
so the engines can clean up, change filters every oil change or more 'cause
the bio does a clean job on the engine, change out any rubber hoses to
"viton" hoses as the bio will soften the old rubber. You are not that cold?
Gelling mite not be a problem, tho 100% bio will gell (like diesel) if it gets
too cold.

BrandonV
11-06-2007, 06:35 PM
well there are a few gas stations that sell it at the pump, might go speak to the owner. diesel hit 3.35 today... that times a 110gal tank= 335$/fillup about 1 fillup/ week

Mike Leary
11-06-2007, 06:43 PM
well there are a few gas stations that sell it at the pump, might go speak to the owner. diesel hit 3.35 today... that times a 110gal tank= 335$/fillup about 1 fillup/ week

Don't cry for me Argentina, I topped off the Airstream this morn..33 gallons..
$125.00. :angry:

hoskm01
11-07-2007, 09:27 AM
Don't cry for me Argentina, I topped off the Airstream this morn..33 gallons..
$125.00. :angry:
U ought to fly, its cheaper these days. Hard to bring the steel twinkie though.

Mike Leary
11-07-2007, 04:05 PM
U ought to fly, its cheaper these days. Hard to bring the steel twinkie though.

Yass, but once we get down there, it's much cheaper...free at Uncle Jack's
KOA in Flag, free at friends in Wickenburg, free at Uncle Jack's in Glendale
AND free at hoskmo's palatial estate in Goodyear!:rolleyes:

hoskm01
11-07-2007, 05:08 PM
Yass, but once we get down there, it's much cheaper...free at Uncle Jack's
KOA in Flag, free at friends in Wickenburg, free at Uncle Jack's in Glendale
AND free at hoskmo's palatial estate in Goodyear!:rolleyes:
Word, u got me there.

Mike Leary
11-07-2007, 05:47 PM
Word, u got me there.

What?, I thought all you big time contractors had full hook ups for visiting
dignitaries.:cry:

hoskm01
11-07-2007, 10:18 PM
The place is open for you, but I would hardly call it palatial.