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tthomass
11-05-2007, 09:54 PM
How ya'll like them? Chevy needs some new shoes.

-Off road on job sites
-Snow

Likes?
Dislikes?

I'm looking at three sizes:

265/70-16
265/75-16
285/75-16

SOUTHERNGREENSCAPES
11-05-2007, 10:08 PM
what kind of truck? I wouldn't do anything more than one size over stock if any. Everyone loves the looks of the larger tires, but it leterally robs the truck of its pulling capacities. I am sure there will be ten guys that have the big tires that disagree, but they just don't want to admit the otherway or they just have not tried the other way. I had a 2500HD with the little tiny donuts on them and pulled an 11klb trailer and later traded those tires out for 265/75/16's and i could really tell a difference in where the truck shifted and how often it had to downshift. it would still pull the weight, but just not as good.

As far as the quality of those bf A/T's. i wouldn't trade them for the world. My last set was on my 1500 and i got right at 60k on them. My new set is for my 2500, so they were load range E's which ride a little rougher, but you can't beat the handling and traction. put it this way. My 3500 with street tires got stuck pulling my trailer out of a slipery spot, so i had to hook up the 2500 with the bf's to pull both of them out at the same time. The bf's in the same situation would not have gotten stuck.

long story short...I love bf a/t's. and if you check some of the reviews on places like www.tirerack.com, you will find that a lot of people like them too.

P.Services
11-05-2007, 10:13 PM
love mine for sure. nothing bad to say at all

pj550v12
11-05-2007, 10:33 PM
Excellent tires, had them on my s10 for years. My Neighbor just put them on his 06 Extended cab, 2500hd classic (different style but basically just the older style of your truck) he put some BEEFY 295s on the stock rims. You would think it would look obnoxious but wow, its a mean look. That being said he cant really tow anything because of the width and weight restrictions but you shouldn't have any problems with the sizes you listed. From my experiences they were great both off road, and in the snow, tread life is VERY impressive too.

tthomass
11-05-2007, 10:39 PM
I will most likely be going with a 265.

Truck is my '02 Chevy
-2500HD
-6.0L
-4.10
-Ext cab
-Long bed
-4x4

TXNSLighting
11-05-2007, 10:53 PM
i like everything about them EXCEPT, the way that they hold little peebles and such til about 30-40 mph then slings them on your truck! hated that about them!

flxinxj
11-05-2007, 11:02 PM
BFG makes a really good tire. they have a good wear life. I wouldnt go any bigger than a 265 they will last longer. very good trackshion for the money.I have nitto ats on my 2500 in a 295 and they are not wearing to good but my budy has them in a 265 on his 1500 and they wear great.

DK lawn care
11-05-2007, 11:20 PM
U can upgrade to a bigger tire, but if u go over a couple sizes, make sure u upgrade to a lower gear ratio in the rear end. I have BFG a/t and they are amazing in the dirt and rain. I just dont like how long they have lasted. 15k and they are basically bald

SiteSolutions
11-05-2007, 11:30 PM
Y'all think going to 285s would really make a big difference? It's less than a 4% change in circumference, basically from a 31.65" diameter to a 32.83"... I'm looking at going up just one size (from 265s to 285s) but I have wondered about the effects on hauling and especially braking.

I've got BFG right now but am looking at Toyos. I dunno about the BFG being any kind of mud tire but they work fine on asphalt and dry dirt. Only time I went in a slightly wet situation, I had to go 4x4 to get out. Not impressed but not really disappointed.

04TurfT
11-05-2007, 11:44 PM
I got em in 35's on my tahoe and I love them. They seem to be wearing pretty well and ride good as well.

whoopassonthebluegrass
11-05-2007, 11:49 PM
Mine were alright, but MAN they seemed to attract every loose nail on the road. I had to patch them soooo many times. On the other hand, though, they were incredible in the snow.

DK lawn care
11-05-2007, 11:52 PM
site solutions, I have 285's and i didnt know any difference in power and hauling, id say go for them.

Scag48
11-06-2007, 02:23 AM
My dad owns the truck now, but when I still had my '00 GMC 2500 I threw some BFG AT's on there, same size as standard equipment. I loved them, I had quite a few mudding adventures with them. I had them aired up to 50 pounds just about all the time for towing, they did great in most conditions at that pressure. But, they were worthless off road in the snow/deep mud until you air them down to 25-30 pounds, then when driving through deep snow it was like you had 12 inch spikes coming out of the tires. I had a few instances where I felt like I was going to slide off the road with 50 pounds in the tires when I encountered mud or snow on a slightly pitched road, air pressure really makes a huge difference with any tire while you're off road, these especially.

SiteSolutions
11-06-2007, 07:53 AM
Didn't think about the air pressure. I run mine at 80 psi (load range E) and I don't think I would air them down; too much weight on them most of the time and they might tear up or blow out if not properly inflated... then again, I have been trying to talk my wife into that gas powered compressor for the truck...

TXNSLighting
11-06-2007, 10:09 AM
I dont know where people get "the bigger tire you put on the less pulling power"...ive always gone from factory size to 35's and have never had a drop in power...maybe you guys saying that arent driving the right trucks...i will never put anything less than 35's on my trucks. they look to good with the big tires. just look weak with factory size. especially the dodges. they seem to put way to much lift on them with way small tires. mine didnt last long with the factory donuts.

DK lawn care
11-06-2007, 11:02 AM
Ryan what rear end gear came with ur truck from the factory? Urs might have came with a 4.10 and thats why u arent really feeling it.

outlaw1960
11-06-2007, 12:06 PM
I have a set of 285/75 16's, load range E, love them except in deep snow. If the truck wasn't so heavy I wouldn't go anywhere when we get over 10 inches of snow. I currently have 25k on them and they are wearing excellently, and like DK said, I didn't notice a difference when going to a plus 1 size, hth

TXNSLighting
11-06-2007, 12:35 PM
Ryan what rear end gear came with ur truck from the factory? Urs might have came with a 4.10 and thats why u arent really feeling it.

i have the 4.10's but my previous trucks did not, they all had 3.73's

SOUTHERNGREENSCAPES
11-06-2007, 12:49 PM
site solutions, I have 285's and i didnt know any difference in power and hauling, id say go for them.

No offense there "DKLAWNCARE", but if you are only getting 15k miles out of a set of tires, i don't know that i want to consider your post. This is not meant to be a personal attack, but you should get more mileage than that out of a thornbird swamper. you need to get with your tire guy or your local dealer and find out what is going on.

SOUTHERNGREENSCAPES
11-06-2007, 12:59 PM
I dont know where people get "the bigger tire you put on the less pulling power"...ive always gone from factory size to 35's and have never had a drop in power...maybe you guys saying that arent driving the right trucks...i will never put anything less than 35's on my trucks. they look to good with the big tires. just look weak with factory size. especially the dodges. they seem to put way to much lift on them with way small tires. mine didnt last long with the factory donuts.

impossible: that is all ego talking. if you take a 3.73 gear with 30" tires and put 35's on the same gear, you will raise that gear to a 3.20 ratio which would suck for towing. even if you had a 4.10, you would still come out at a 3.51 ratio. If you say that your truck does not tow any different with that much difference in gear ratio, then you just don't understand towing or have not hooked up to a very big load. You take any of the big threes 3/4 tons and put 35's on them and hook up to 12k lbs and try to maintain highway speeds and tell me how many times your truck down shifts over the course of 5 miles. that is if it makes it to its last gear. I am not a very big fan of the little tires that the manufactures put on these trucks. i think that it is irrisponsible. I wouldn't drive my 2500 with anything less than a 265 LRE, but since the gearing will be different, i still know that my abilities will be less, but i still feel safer on that larger tire.

mag360
11-06-2007, 01:21 PM
I dont know where people get "the bigger tire you put on the less pulling power"...ive always gone from factory size to 35's and have never had a drop in power...maybe you guys saying that arent driving the right trucks...i will never put anything less than 35's on my trucks. they look to good with the big tires. just look weak with factory size. especially the dodges. they seem to put way to much lift on them with way small tires. mine didnt last long with the factory donuts.

I've also run tires in the 33-35inch range and, though it isn't as noticeable on the diesels, there is a loss of power. You notice it more going back down to stock size (we do every winter for plowing) than going up from stock. More so with an auto than with a manual.

TXNSLighting
11-06-2007, 04:18 PM
impossible: that is all ego talking. if you take a 3.73 gear with 30" tires and put 35's on the same gear, you will raise that gear to a 3.20 ratio which would suck for towing. even if you had a 4.10, you would still come out at a 3.51 ratio. If you say that your truck does not tow any different with that much difference in gear ratio, then you just don't understand towing or have not hooked up to a very big load. You take any of the big threes 3/4 tons and put 35's on them and hook up to 12k lbs and try to maintain highway speeds and tell me how many times your truck down shifts over the course of 5 miles. that is if it makes it to its last gear. I am not a very big fan of the little tires that the manufactures put on these trucks. i think that it is irrisponsible. I wouldn't drive my 2500 with anything less than a 265 LRE, but since the gearing will be different, i still know that my abilities will be less, but i still feel safer on that larger tire.

no its not ego. I have towed all the way up to 18,000 pounds on my 35's. it pulls just fine and i can always maintain my speed. realize im talking about diesels. not wussy gas engines. i know how this stuff works, and i know about towing. the most i towed with the factory tires was about 12 or 13,000. didnt change after the 35's went on with the same load.

DK lawn care
11-06-2007, 04:47 PM
no its not ego. I have towed all the way up to 18,000 pounds on my 35's. it pulls just fine and i can always maintain my speed. realize im talking about diesels. not wussy gas engines. i know how this stuff works, and i know about towing. the most i towed with the factory tires was about 12 or 13,000. didnt change after the 35's went on with the same load.

What kind of truck are u pulling with?

i have the 4.10's but my previous trucks did not, they all had 3.73's

Did ur previous trucks with 3.73's have 35's?

No offense there "DKLAWNCARE", but if you are only getting 15k miles out of a set of tires, i don't know that i want to consider your post. This is not meant to be a personal attack, but you should get more mileage than that out of a thornbird swamper. you need to get with your tire guy or your local dealer and find out what is going on.

U shouldnt consider My post, because there is somthing wrong with these tires and this isnt normal at all considering some of the tire threads that i read. I just rotated all four and the ones that use to be in the front are bald and now they are in the back. The reason why they are bald is because of alignment issues. Fixed the alignment and put the back ones on the front and they arent as bald as the front but for how younger they are, they shouldnt be this bald. they probally only have at most 8,000 left on the fronts.

SiteSolutions
11-06-2007, 07:50 PM
impossible: that is all ego talking. if you take a 3.73 gear with 30" tires and put 35's on the same gear, you will raise that gear to a 3.20 ratio which would suck for towing. even if you had a 4.10, you would still come out at a 3.51 ratio. If you say that your truck does not tow any different with that much difference in gear ratio, then you just don't understand towing or have not hooked up to a very big load. You take any of the big threes 3/4 tons and put 35's on them and hook up to 12k lbs and try to maintain highway speeds and tell me how many times your truck down shifts over the course of 5 miles. that is if it makes it to its last gear. I am not a very big fan of the little tires that the manufactures put on these trucks. i think that it is irrisponsible. I wouldn't drive my 2500 with anything less than a 265 LRE, but since the gearing will be different, i still know that my abilities will be less, but i still feel safer on that larger tire.

Fair enough, but what do you think about the 285s? I'm pretty pleased with it with the 265s except with long wheelbase I could use any additional clearance and maybe a little more grip off-highway. Oh, yeah, and the 285s look better.:)

SOUTHERNGREENSCAPES
11-06-2007, 10:26 PM
if you are talking about a 1500 chevy, they come stock with 265's, so going to a 285 isnt that dramatic. If you are talking about a 2500 that comes with 245's and then bumping up to 285's, then your talking about a much larger gap. I don't know what you are looking for in a truck, but my opinion is that the 265's look plenty big and still serve a great purpose. Anything above that and i think you are thinking more about apperances vs. functionality. ask yourself this, how many larger companies around town are pushing 33" tires going down the road. then ask yourself what would someone your parents age (assuming you are under 30yrs old) think about a "professional" rolling up with big off road tires. I know it doesn't say anything about your abilities, but you have to face the facts that image is everything in todays world.

TXNSLighting
11-06-2007, 10:28 PM
What kind of truck are u pulling with?



Did ur previous trucks with 3.73's have 35's?


that grey one right to the left, and yes!

TXNSLighting
11-06-2007, 10:37 PM
yes image is everything. but 35's are way common these days. and all my customers like my truck. thats the first thing they compliment when i pull up for an estimate. heck me and one client now talked for 30 min on the estimate bout my truck. it stands out. thats also good for business. it tuns head so people see the Texan Lawn & Landscape signs!

Total.Lawn.Care
11-06-2007, 11:53 PM
I have had those tires before. loved them. I wish I could afford to put them on again. Next Set will be. I got 60,000 miles out of my last set.

As far as the tire sizes, I upped my tire size from 265 to 285 on my last purchase. I did not notice any power or towing issues either. Can't go wrong with that BFG.

SOUTHERNGREENSCAPES
11-07-2007, 01:56 AM
that grey one right to the left, and yes!

am i missing something, but those tires in that picture are not 35's. You will not fit 35's on a 1/2 ton with out a 6" lift which that truck does not have. do you have a better picture?

SiteSolutions
11-07-2007, 07:56 AM
I've seen a dually around here on what must be 40s or 44s... he can't fit in one lane! I don't want to look like that. My F-350 is 4x4 (SRW) so it came with the 265s, not 245s. It's such a long truck (crew cab, 8 ft box) that the tires look a little out of proportion. I have seen guys with 285s and 305s and they don't look like ignorant rednecks.

TXNSLighting
11-07-2007, 11:56 AM
am i missing something, but those tires in that picture are not 35's. You will not fit 35's on a 1/2 ton with out a 6" lift which that truck does not have. do you have a better picture?

you think my trucks a half ton?!!! ha! its a 3/4 ton cummins, and yes they are 35's i think i should know since it is my truck...i have pictures of it all over the place here.

go look in the for sale column. youll find it there. or in my pictures forum. that things all over the place here.

TXNSLighting
11-07-2007, 11:59 AM
am i missing something, but those tires in that picture are not 35's. You will not fit 35's on a 1/2 ton with out a 6" lift which that truck does not have. do you have a better picture?

and you dont need a 6 inch lift for 35's. on anything. a 4 is plenty. and 3/4 and 1 tons dont even need a lift.

IA_James
11-07-2007, 12:34 PM
am i missing something, but those tires in that picture are not 35's. You will not fit 35's on a 1/2 ton with out a 6" lift which that truck does not have. do you have a better picture?

The Dodge 3/4 tons actually sit high enough that 35s will only rub at full lock with a stock ride height. A 2" levelling kit for the front end eliminates the rub. The Dodges are way up in the air from the factory, I don't know why they set 'em up that high.

SOUTHERNGREENSCAPES
11-07-2007, 12:46 PM
Sorry About The Misquote On Your Tire Size. I Could Not Tell Anything From That Small Picture. But I Still Don't Believe That You Can't Tell Any Difference From The Factory 245's Or 265's. But Who Cares Anymore. We Could Go Back And Forth For Days.

TXNSLighting
11-07-2007, 01:17 PM
i know, maybe older vehicles are affected but none of my diesels have been. now if you get up to 38"+ tires your going to notice a difference. and mine came with 265's factory.

JoeyD
11-07-2007, 01:53 PM
I might be able to get you guys a good price on these BFG's if anyone is interested. We run all terrains and the Baja T/A's on our vehicles. The Baja's are not anythign you want unless you do some hardcore off roading but the All Terrains are awesome!

DK lawn care
11-07-2007, 03:13 PM
The Dodge 3/4 tons actually sit high enough that 35s will only rub at full lock with a stock ride height. A 2" levelling kit for the front end eliminates the rub. The Dodges are way up in the air from the factory, I don't know why they set 'em up that high.

Some dodge 3/4 and 1 tons sit higher then regualer 3/4 and 1 tons. I dont know why though that they sit higher. U are right, it does sit high enough but they will rub at full lock because of the spacing in ur stock rims.

Ground Effects NH
11-07-2007, 05:44 PM
I hate to bust your bubble BUT size makes a Big difference:waving:

DK lawn care
11-07-2007, 10:26 PM
ya but can that little car tow around a enclosed lawn trailor? no hahah

TXNSLighting
11-08-2007, 10:40 AM
I hate to bust your bubble BUT size makes a Big difference:waving:

and id still take the great looking vehicles over that crappy little thing in the middle.

JoeyD
11-08-2007, 11:35 AM
I owuld rather have the innsurance money on both trucks than to own that perfectly good whatever it is. What kind of car is that? Kia, pontiac, I cant even tell.

deere615
11-08-2007, 10:22 PM
I have heard so many good things about BFG all terrians They are deffinetly going to be my next truck tires!

TriplePLandscaping
11-09-2007, 08:42 AM
265/75/r16 on the stock aluminum rims here and they are awesome all around. for the snow you would actually want a narrower tire to get down to the road better than a wide tire can. we put bridgestone v-steel 245/75/16 back on for summer for hauling duties, they use less gas but cant do crap in the mud.