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irrig8r
11-06-2007, 10:08 PM
Have you guys taken a look at these recently? We could probably save the moderators a lot of work and keep the peace around here if we all took another look.

http://www.lawnsite.com/guidelines.php

By completing your registration and becoming a member at LawnSite.com, you have agreed to abide by and follow the rules created by ownership (listed below) at all times.There are no exceptions to the rules. LawnSite.com has the right and option to change these rules without prior notice. All of the rules stated below refer to not only the public forums at LawnSite.com, but the Private Forums, e-mail and private messaging as well.

1. Advertising of any kind is not permitted at this site unless you are a sponsor. If you are interested in becoming a sponsor, click here. This includes mentioning manufacturers, dealers, etc… in the forums or through LawnSite.com e-mail or private messaging. You are also not permitted to include phone numbers addresses, fax numbers, e-mail addresses, or web addresses or links in your posts, e-mail, private messages or signature lines.

2. Links to and/or mentioning other Green Industry forum sites is not permitted at LawnSite.com.

3. You are not permitted to use obscene, vulgar or explicit language at the site.

4. You are not permitted to discuss, mention or make reference to illegal activities, including but not limited to drugs, terrorism, etc…

5. You are not permitted to post or mention any material or information that defames, abuses, or threatens physical or emotional harm or death to others or oneself.

6. You are not permitted to post any material or pictures that depicts violence.

7. You are not permitted to list names, phone numbers, addresses, e-mail addresses, fax numbers, post office box numbers, etc…. of any others except your own.

8. You are not permitted to pass off as one’s own, or solicit for the exchange, sale, or purchase of content that infringes anyone else’s intellectual property rights, including but not limited to any copyright, trademark, rights of publicity, rights of privacy, or other proprietary rights.

9. You are not permitted to include, mention or post links to pornographic, drug related, or violence web sites or material, including but not limited to child pornography or all other types of pornography.

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12. You are not permitted to harass other members at LawnSite.com. This includes offensive remarks or remarks that attempt to provoke another member. Sarcastic baiting is also not permitted. If you disagree with someone, state why, but do not resort to name calling, threats, etc…

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irrig8r
11-06-2007, 10:22 PM
So, depending on interpretation, I've inadvertently violated four of the rules, five if you consider any of my statements to have been "sarcastic baiting" or name calling.

I have seen the error of my ways and pledge to abide by the rules in the interests of continued peace and prosperity.

David Gretzmier
11-07-2007, 06:00 AM
A lot of these rules make sense. enforcing the civility of society requires rules and punishments for breaking them. some however, such as mentioning manufacturors names, seem a bit weird.

Hey, has anyone seen the new transformer from Night******* ? It reminds me of the old Had** and incorporates Uni***'s lugs. The stainless box is not as nice as F*'s but still pretty good.

slightly ridiculous.

Mike M
11-07-2007, 06:16 AM
slightly ridiculous

Watch it.

Up early Dave, have a coffee on me. :waving:

steveparrott
11-08-2007, 03:04 PM
I don't like the sponsorship policy and have voiced my objections to Sean. In my opinion, his business model of allowing sponsors to dominate threads with self promotion is counter to a free exchange of professional ideas. Why not be satisfied with sponsors putting ads along the top and right side of the page? I'm sure that brings in plenty of revenue.

JoeyD
11-08-2007, 03:32 PM
As far as I know Steve you are free to discuss your products here. I have no problem with it. I think they may limit you to posting pics or links to your site but you are free to post things that relay directly to your products.

The only lighting sponsors i know of are Unique and Frog Lights and i do not see very many posts from Frog Lights here so you must be reffering to Unique in which case I try to only mention products that play into the topic. Many others here promote other manufacturers fixtures here as much as I might push mine. I dont know that I over do it but if others feel like I do then let me know. The people I have discussed this with have said they feel like I do not over do it.

Respectfully,

Joey D.

klkanders
11-08-2007, 08:30 PM
Steve, Joey
I for one am glad both of you are here to share ideas, knowledge, products and opinions. When other manufacturers or distributors chime in it makes it that much better. Keep it Up! Thanks Guys!

Chris J
11-08-2007, 09:41 PM
I agree. We are all big boys and we certainly know when and if the truth is being distorted to side with a particular manufacturer. I enjoy the conversation from everyone (well, almost everyone) both contractor and manufacturer alike, and I don't have a problem with any of you speaking about your line.

steveparrott
11-09-2007, 09:36 AM
Joey, I'm not faulting you and I do believe you add value to the forum, as do other manufacturers. I still don't like this forum's business model and would prefer an open forum with uniform rules that apply to all users.

JoeyD
11-09-2007, 10:37 AM
Fairly stated Steve.