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Exact Rototilling
11-19-2007, 11:35 PM
I've seen a sizeable number of LCO in my area who do not have Company Sign or info of any kind on their truck or trailer. Even on commercial accounts. It's very obvious to me that they are doing this for a living. Is there any valid reason NOT to have your company sign on your truck or trailer?

All I can think of is the following:

They live in an area where the home owner association doesn't allow commercial vehicles parked on the street or driveway.

Company sign would require commercial vehicle & trailer licensing.

They are not remotely legitimate cash only un-licensed operator.

Personal privacy is of the utmost importance to the owner. ;)

Any others?

dwlah
11-19-2007, 11:45 PM
Full schedule

only takes on work that has been referred by other customers

doesn't want to deal with having to remove the vinyl when he trades trucks

waiting on the sign company to get done with his sign so he can put it on the truck

hasn't thought about putting a sign on his truck

beano
11-19-2007, 11:48 PM
Dosent want people to know whats in the trailer mostly so when its parked people dont break into it

KS_Grasscutter
11-19-2007, 11:48 PM
Reason my truck is not lettered is I drive like a total idiot most of the time, and I don't want people knowing who I am. Don't want to be drivin and have my cell phone ring with someone saying "hey a$$clown, you just cut me off" or "hey idiot my son just watched you run over our cat".

verant
11-20-2007, 12:07 AM
Reason my truck is not lettered is I drive like a total idiot most of the time, and I don't want people knowing who I am. Don't want to be drivin and have my cell phone ring with someone saying "hey a$$clown, you just cut me off" or "hey idiot my son just watched you run over our cat".

i hear ya. i have vinyl lettering on the back side windows of my truck. one time i passed someone in a big parking lot. and when i get home there's a message on my home phone saying that "you drive recklessly and some other b.s. " but otherwise, i like to have it on their, b/c when i'm mowin a property people see my truck and take notice. and know i'm open for business. :cool2:

mdvaden
11-20-2007, 12:51 AM
Often I have, and sometimes not.

Not a lot of immediate business has come from lettering for me.

If anything, name recognition is a benefit.

Some folks have all the accounts they need, so why letter a vehicle and spend more money out of their income?

I just bought a new truck, and am thinking about letters now. Probably will go ahead for name recognition.

hackitdown
11-20-2007, 06:59 AM
I buy new trucks from time to time, so I never letter them. I do have magnetic signs I put on if I am meeting a customer. But my truck is my family vehicle, so I usually skip the signs. I do have a large sign permanently bolted to the tailgate of my trailer.

DiyDave
11-20-2007, 07:17 AM
The only time I ever got a negative call because of signs on the trailer was because of a parking dispute. I had parked in a lawyer's parking lot, next to the 7-11 store I was going into early one morning (There were downed power lines in the 7-11 p-lot). It was a good area, so I left the NPR diesel idling. When I came out there was this prick lawyer screaming into his cell phone, he had my keys in his hands, and was saying into the Phone that he was going to hold my truck until I, the owner came down to get it. He got the surprise of his life, when I tapped him on the shoulder, said I was the owner, and to give me the keys NOW or I would call the police on him and charge HIM with possession of stolen property! It was priceless to have seen the look on his face as he about shat his pants, looking at the size of me, between him and any escape. He dropped the keys on ground and RAN back to his office.:cool2::cool2:

Hiwire
11-20-2007, 07:19 AM
Am I wrong or does DOT require company name on each truck as well as your DOT number??
Ray

N.TX
11-20-2007, 09:06 AM
I have another reason..... When some moron STEALS YOUR MAGNETIC SIGNS ... happend twice about 6 yrs ago... i decided i didnt want magnetic signs and now as of recently i just put signs on my trailer.

J&R Landscaping
11-20-2007, 09:08 AM
For the DOT #, it depends on the weight your towing. I have my new truck as both a work/semi-personal truck. I know of several townships with-in my work range that don't allow any type of commercial vehicle to be parked on your property unless it is there while labor is being performed. (With the exception of rental and moving trucks/equip.) Personally, I think a law like that is against the constitution as long as the onwer parks it in his/her own driveway.
Its my vehicle, on my land that I pay taxes on so why should I have to listen to you about not liking it. (As long as its not an eyesore and blah blah blah.) JMO

Clear-Cut
11-20-2007, 12:03 PM
^ there argument would probably be that the truck is owned by the business and unless the business own your home, then you cant park it there..i dont see a problem with it either, but guess they are trying to keep large dump trucks and other construction type vehicles out of site

landscaper22
11-20-2007, 12:05 PM
I decided not to do signs mainly because I am too busy. If I had good employees and was able to keep growing, I would letter my trucks. I would probably paint them the same color too. It would look professional. But it is crazy to go after new business and advertise when I have to turn most of them away. I have enough people stop me anyway. I don't see a lot of business coming from that. Just a professional appearance to the community.

S.I.
11-20-2007, 12:14 PM
I don't want "them" to find me..........if "they" see lettering on the truck "they" will follow

Brad Ent
11-20-2007, 12:40 PM
DOT # is required for commercial vehicles with a GVW greater than 10,001 lbs

PlatinumLandCon
11-20-2007, 04:53 PM
Reason my truck is not lettered is I drive like a total idiot most of the time, and I don't want people knowing who I am. Don't want to be drivin and have my cell phone ring with someone saying "hey a$$clown, you just cut me off" or "hey idiot my son just watched you run over our cat".

LOL!!! I'm exactly the same!! I do stupid $hit all the time and I don't want people calling me or seeing the truck in my driveway and telling my parents I'm a dummy lol.

americanlawn
11-20-2007, 06:00 PM
Company name & phone number are requirements in my state if one applies pesticides. There are some out there that are unmarked....but here, that's illegal.:hammerhead: Mow & snow guys don't need any name on their trucks here, but it's nice to advertise one's business.

If homeowner associations don't allow commercial vehicles, how do their homes get built? What if they want Direct TV, new furniture, or if they move? Ordering pizza?:laugh:

If I were a customer, I would expect a truck with company logos, cuz it lends credibility. :usflag:

I've seen a sizeable number of LCO in my area who do not have Company Sign or info of any kind on their truck or trailer. Even on commercial accounts. It's very obvious to me that they are doing this for a living. Is there any valid reason NOT to have your company sign on your truck or trailer?

All I can think of is the following:

They live in an area where the home owner association doesn't allow commercial vehicles parked on the street or driveway.

Company sign would require commercial vehicle & trailer licensing.

They are not remotely legitimate cash only un-licensed operator.

Personal privacy is of the utmost importance to the owner. ;)

Any others?

TLS
11-20-2007, 06:16 PM
I decided not to do signs mainly because I am too busy. But it is crazy to go after new business and advertise when I have to turn most of them away. I have enough people stop me anyway.

This is my reason.

I used to have signs, and I used to advertise in a local paper back in the '80s. Sure they got me going, but once your name is out there and the quality of your work shows, advertising is merely a write-off.

PROCUT1
11-20-2007, 06:39 PM
Company name & phone number are requirements in my state if one applies pesticides. There are some out there that are unmarked....but here, that's illegal.:hammerhead: Mow & snow guys don't need any name on their trucks here, but it's nice to advertise one's business.

If homeowner associations don't allow commercial vehicles, how do their homes get built? What if they want Direct TV, new furniture, or if they move? Ordering pizza?:laugh:

If I were a customer, I would expect a truck with company logos, cuz it lends credibility. :usflag:

Obviously they allow vehicles that are there to work. What they dont want is a homeowner to keep a commercial lettered vehicle at their house.

SlowMow
11-20-2007, 08:53 PM
Well, much like a couple earlier posts, what about if a friend of yours asks to borrow your truck or trailer for other reasons? Then he drives like an idiot, or even gets pulled over and people drive by and sees your vehicle pulled over by the cops, how good does that look?

TimTim2008
11-20-2007, 09:21 PM
Reason my truck is not lettered is I drive like a total idiot most of the time, and I don't want people knowing who I am. Don't want to be drivin and have my cell phone ring with someone saying "hey a$$clown, you just cut me off" or "hey idiot my son just watched you run over our cat".

lol same here........

lawnprosteveo
11-20-2007, 09:41 PM
Im booked....all the work I can handle. I dont want somebody calling me. I get all the referrals I can handle too. Just no need to have a sign at this stage in the game.

TLS
11-20-2007, 09:47 PM
Well, much like a couple earlier posts, what about if a friend of yours asks to borrow your truck or trailer for other reasons? Then he drives like an idiot, or even gets pulled over and people drive by and sees your vehicle pulled over by the cops, how good does that look?

Sounds like you may know the answer to this from experience? :laugh:

GravelyNut
11-20-2007, 10:14 PM
^ there argument would probably be that the truck is owned by the business and unless the business own your home, then you cant park it there..i dont see a problem with it either, but guess they are trying to keep large dump trucks and other construction type vehicles out of site

Some areas of Dade County have signs that say overnight parking of 1 ton trucks/ comm. vehicles prohibited. Mine falls in the 1st case. County judge solved that problem not too long ago for all non-comm vehicles by ruling it illegal for the county to enforce.

tjsquickcuts
11-20-2007, 11:50 PM
My wife had all of our lettering taken off after she kept getting calls from different women wanting to me to come on mow their LAWNS lol....its was amazing how many calls per week I was getting from women asking me out. I have been flagged down, followed to my next stop which was scary. Guess theres somethings about a man that doesnt mind getting dirty....but I can just imagine if I had started this business when I was single.....who knows...guess thats why everything happens for a reason....We will start back lettering everything next year, but my truck will still not have anything.

IMAGE
11-21-2007, 12:07 AM
My wife had all of our lettering taken off after she kept getting calls from different women wanting to me to come on mow their LAWNS lol....its was amazing how many calls per week I was getting from women asking me out. I have been flagged down, followed to my next stop which was scary. Guess theres somethings about a man that doesnt mind getting dirty....but I can just imagine if I had started this business when I was single.....who knows...guess thats why everything happens for a reason....We will start back lettering everything next year, but my truck will still not have anything.



That makes me want to letter every vehicle I own!

mdvaden
11-21-2007, 01:13 AM
The only time I ever got a negative call because of signs on the trailer was because of a parking dispute. I had parked in a lawyer's parking lot, next to the 7-11 store I was going into early one morning (There were downed power lines in the 7-11 p-lot). It was a good area, so I left the NPR diesel idling. When I came out there was this prick lawyer screaming into his cell phone, he had my keys in his hands, and was saying into the Phone that he was going to hold my truck until I, the owner came down to get it. He got the surprise of his life, when I tapped him on the shoulder, said I was the owner, and to give me the keys NOW or I would call the police on him and charge HIM with possession of stolen property! It was priceless to have seen the look on his face as he about shat his pants, looking at the size of me, between him and any escape. He dropped the keys on ground and RAN back to his office.:cool2::cool2:

You would probably appreciate a situation from about 30 years ago, when I was 19.

I had a very tiny car - a Datsun F-10 two door. Was riding with a few friends.

Going the speed limit, some moron rides my bumper for like 5 blocks, so we turned a corner to get him off and let him by. He turns the same way, so we pulled to the side, parked and my friend flipped him off.

He then pulls over in front of us, walks to my window and grabs me by the neck.

(by the way, the guy is short - like 5' 10" and about 40 years old)

So I open my door and return the neck grab about 8 times harder since I swing a 32 oz. framing hammer all day and have Popeye forearms. Then my 3 friends get out and box this guy in, by standing on all 4 sides. None of us is less than 6' 3" tall.

My friends start screaming stuff like "knock the bloody crap out of this guy" and "beat him into submission" and "cripple his a$$".

I forgot to look for urine on the gravel, but his attitude sure changed "oh..I'm so sorry, you guys have a great evening"

topsites
11-21-2007, 01:28 AM
- I don't want just anyone to have my phone number, mine is an exclusive niche service for a few customers. I like to think it's because I'm good, but plainly put it's because I like things to be a certain way and so I can't help most folks because I'm just very picky.
That summarizes it, I do as much as I can NOT to attract strangers while I'm working on my paying customer's yard, their money buys my time, you can NOT afford to interrupt me.

- +$800 insurance, for an owner operator it sure is.
> On that note I don't need to hear about my driving either since I believe in the law of gross tonnage.

- I dislike strangers coming up to me while I'm working, that puts me at their mercy, signs tend to further bring this on.
> I feel like I've lost control, once I stop in midst of what I'm doing and turn off the machine so I can ignore my paying customer to attend to the needs of someone I've never met then I might as well bend over, what it feels like to me.

- It's corporate advertising, and the real reason corporations do this is to keep their drivers in line, because it lowers corporate insurance rates to have that on there because that ID's their drivers on the road, but don't tell nobody I said that.

- One more reason for someone to hang on me the fact that I've got commercial vehicles parked at my house in a residential zone.

I have another reason..... When some moron STEALS YOUR MAGNETIC SIGNS ... happend twice about 6 yrs ago... i decided i didnt want magnetic signs and now as of recently i just put signs on my trailer.

I doubt they stole it, I lost more than my fair share years ago, at speeds as low as 40 mph all it takes is a cross breeze... I can't remember how many I lost but I kept wondering wth, wouldn't I hear or see it? Only once did I see one come off, it happens really fast and it's almost completely silent even with the window open I almost never heard it.
Once they hit the road it's almost guaranteed they're done for, I turned around fast as I could and I don't think anyone hit it but it was all cracked.
Magnetic signs are pieces of crap.

That and the weather, heat kills magnets too.

Even Cut Lawn Care
11-21-2007, 02:23 AM
Reason my truck is not lettered is I drive like a total idiot most of the time, and I don't want people knowing who I am. Don't want to be drivin and have my cell phone ring with someone saying "hey a$$clown, you just cut me off" or "hey idiot my son just watched you run over our cat".

Ditto!!! I even drive my other truck to my night job at the police dept so nobody puts 2 and 2 together

Even Cut Lawn Care
11-21-2007, 02:29 AM
My wife had all of our lettering taken off after she kept getting calls from different women wanting to me to come on mow their LAWNS lol....its was amazing how many calls per week I was getting from women asking me out. I have been flagged down, followed to my next stop which was scary. Guess theres somethings about a man that doesnt mind getting dirty....but I can just imagine if I had started this business when I was single.....who knows...guess thats why everything happens for a reason....We will start back lettering everything next year, but my truck will still not have anything.

I actually had a woman that worked at a commercial property that got my number from my truck. She sent me several text messages wanting to "trade out" for payment for my services. LOL

ponyboy
11-21-2007, 07:19 AM
here any truck pulling a trailer or truck over 9,000 or 10,000 gvw has to have co NAME NUMBER TOWN and a NYDOT# thaen also a county liscen sticker then there are individual towns with in this county that require permits to work. If the truck is registred in the business letter it up, if it is personal being leased to the co and there is a trailer being pulled letter it up if not tell it to the judge, no dot# $350 fine, no letter bam $350 etc we have no choice

PROCUT1
11-21-2007, 07:30 AM
Topsites,

Was it you that said it takes you like 5 minutes from a traffic light to get up to 30mph?

Something about hearing every piston firing in the engine?

Foot29
11-21-2007, 09:30 AM
Go thing about mag decals you can take them off when ever. My work great

TTPRODR
11-21-2007, 05:04 PM
Reason my truck is not lettered is I drive like a total idiot most of the time, and I don't want people knowing who I am. Don't want to be drivin and have my cell phone ring with someone saying "hey a$$clown, you just cut me off" or "hey idiot my son just watched you run over our cat".

learn how to drive b4 getting on that ztr.

topsites
11-21-2007, 05:17 PM
Topsites,

Was it you that said it takes you like 5 minutes from a traffic light to get up to 30mph?

Something about hearing every piston firing in the engine?

Yeh in the old '86 carb'd 318 it was like that.
It's not the same with a 360 cid Magnum thou, almost a year later I still have a hard time keeping my foot up off the 400hp throttle, the speedometer marks say it goes past 120mph and I believe it :laugh: