PVC ADVICE:Taking Stress off the pipe in every

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

situation..


1.down a hill
2.from a sleve

I want tips you cranky guys...

thanks in advance

CSR

[londonrain]

90's and 45's......

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

90's and 45's......

I have already done the 45 from a sleve on a 1 1/4 pipe. Does it get much harder than that?


And, how do you feel about those extension couplings for pvc?

[londonrain]

I have already done the 45 from a sleve on a 1 1/4 pipe. Does it get much harder than that?


And, how do you feel about those extension couplings for pvc?
Do not use on main lines...I have cut out 2 leaking 1 1/2" slipfixes in the last week.....

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

Why do you think they are bunk?

[londonrain]

They rely on o-rings as seals and they leak 90% of the time.
They allow movement of the main line since they have a telescoping action.
We maintain a system with a 2" main and I know for a fact they used a slipfix on the main because every time I open a isolation valve on the main I see the isolation valve move.

Here are two pics of 1 1/2" slip fixes I have replaced in the last week because they started leaking....

[hoskm01]

Slip fixes=not the best solution for longevity.

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

Slip fixes=not the best solution for longevity.

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[hoskm01]

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O-rings not securely attached to PVC=leak=bad.

Like London said ( I am agreeing that they are bunk).

Good to see you back in the action here and to hear of your adventures.

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

situation..


1.down a hill
2.from a sleve

I want tips you cranky fAcks...

thanks in advance

CSR

If you have pipe coming from a sleeve, if I understand you correctly, you need to concrete it in at each fitting just outside the sleeve to keep it from shifting. I'm on board with the slipfixes being junk, 4 ells are better. Comp couplings aren't any better. they make 22.5s for some situations that a 45 would be to severe. Also you can double ell to get the slope angles right. hurts pressure a little bit. What brand of glue you using? Using primer? How are you cutting? Hacksaw or fancy ratchet cutters? Learning to make straight cuts? Does Brandon manifold or zone valves individually? can you keep track of multiple pipe runs in a ditch? Wearing gloves or doing it bare handed?

[londonrain]

If you are cutting pipe with cutters, apply primer to the blade and watch it cut like butter....

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

If you are cutting pipe with cutters, apply primer to the blade and watch it cut like butter....

That primer does a nice job melting and removing hacksaw burrs. I'll run a quick brush on the outer and inner edge and then run my thumb and first finger pinch style on the pipe rim.:)

[Kiril]

Cut your pipe with a circular saw = no burrs :)

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

Cut your pipe with a circular saw = no burrs :)

noted, Next week I think im gona start using a dewalt to cut the pipe.

[Dirty Water]

http://www.starnursery.com/images/items/973023.jpg

If you are not using these, then you are not a real irrigator.

[Wet_Boots]

My old Wheeler can outwork a Victor

[Kiril]

http://www.starnursery.com/images/items/973023.jpg

If you are not using these, then you are not a real irrigator.

How about for sizes above 2". For 2" and below, you can't beat Victor. Those you have a pic for are 1" and below.

[Wet_Boots]

(maybe they should label those cutters "Dinky") :)

[londonrain]

http://www.starnursery.com/images/items/973023.jpg

If you are not using these, then you are not a real irrigator.
agreed....................

[FIMCO-MEISTER]

http://www.starnursery.com/images/items/973023.jpg

If you are not using these, then you are not a real irrigator.

Disagree. Those are great for installs but in service they can't get in the tough below ground areas. Plus a man should never lose his hacksaw skills.:) Furthermore those cutters require a fastidious (a nice way of saying anal) tool cleaner.

[Wet_Boots]

I still keep a keyhole saw for repairing old, crack-able PVC. My Wheeler ratchet cutter hides in my plumbing toolbox, safe from losing its edge on repair work.

[Dirty Water]

Disagree. Those are great for installs but in service they can't get in the tough below ground areas. Plus a man should never lose his hacksaw skills.:) Furthermore those cutters require a fastidious (a nice way of saying anal) tool cleaner.

I carried a Leatherman with a small rip saw on it for tight spots. A blade on the victor would last me about a month.

[BrandonV]

haha i love it. great thread. we always debur, even if we didn't i always flush the heck out of it

[irrig8r]

If you are cutting pipe with cutters, apply primer to the blade and watch it cut like butter....

That's a hell of an interesting suggestion. Been using ratchet cutters for close to 20 years and never thought about trying that.

[irrig8r]

Disagree. Those are great for installs but in service they can't get in the tough below ground areas. Plus a man should never lose his hacksaw skills.:) Furthermore those cutters require a fastidious (a nice way of saying anal) tool cleaner.

I like my Victors, but I love my MCCs. Blades seem to last longer.

[irrig8r]

http://www.mccusainc.com/Tools/images/PVC-Pipe-Cutters-1.jpg
MCC makes cutters for Ridgid. Not sure if the two below are older or newer models than the MCC above. I'm having a hard time finding the MCC locally anymore though.

http://www.mccusainc.com/Tools/images/PVC-Pipe-Cutters-3.jpg
My favorite is the MCC VC-0220, good only for 3/4 and 1/2, but it sure does them well. (Smaller version of the one in this picture.)


http://www.toolup.com/imdir/product/Ridgid/Large/23498.jpg


http://www.toolup.com/imdir/product/Ridgid/Large/23493.jpg

[irrig8r]

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=202742

[CAPT Stream Rotar]

Up north I have used those rigid pvc cutters. no complaints here.

[Kiril]

Rigid makes good tools, have yet to try one of their pipe cutters though.

[irrig8r]

Well, like I said in the October post, linked to above, MCC claims to make the cutters for Ridgid, though I'm not sure if all models or just some.

[Mike Leary]

I've used everbody's cutters for PVC, as long as the blade is sharp, you have enough room AND it's sch 40 or 80 pipe without it not being too cold..workum good.
Makita battery recip saw w/metal cutting blade next & final option.

[hoskm01]

as long as it's sch 40 or 80 pipe without it not being too cold..




Ditto. Hate doing a repair with SCH parts or pipe and having to cut into a class piece of shiite. Though, if you tighten the blade on the pipe and twist while giving a bit more pressure to the cut, you can cut class pipe without cracking, in many cases.