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superdan
12-18-2007, 06:35 PM
In south Texas, my biggest commercial account has no irrigation system in their parking lot islands. The grass that is there is thin and has some bald spots where nothing is growing. During the winter months, what grass there is goes dormant leaving the area looking dead and bald.

I tried seeding with rye just before some rain but, after nearly a month with only a couple days rain, not much is sprouting.

I cant do anything about the irrigation system. Would it help to cover the seeds with a thin layer of sandy loam? Or is that just a waste of time?

Any suggestions are appreciated.

TXNSLighting
12-18-2007, 06:55 PM
really? ok...the only way rye will come up is if you water it daily! no chance otherwise. how did you figure seed would come up without daily watering? they need an irrigation plain and simple. if not o well. they get a crappy lookin yard. nothin you can do bout it.

topsites
12-18-2007, 06:57 PM
We had a drought most of the year, see we just need some rain and warmer temps, it will come around.
I'm serious nobody looks at that in the winter anyhow, wait until spring and see what happens, then you might consider adjusting your method depending on how it comes up, but don't worry about it.

B_gerrits
12-18-2007, 07:17 PM
In south Texas, my biggest commercial account has no irrigation system in their parking lot islands. The grass that is there is thin and has some bald spots where nothing is growing. During the winter months, what grass there is goes dormant leaving the area looking dead and bald.

I tried seeding with rye just before some rain but, after nearly a month with only a couple days rain, not much is sprouting.

I cant do anything about the irrigation system. Would it help to cover the seeds with a thin layer of sandy loam? Or is that just a waste of time?

Any suggestions are appreciated.

How big are the Islands, this could be a good opportunity for you if the account is willing to spend some money. There are many plants, shrubs, ornamental grassses, and trees that are drought tolerant and in combination with rock, bark, or ground bark they could look stunning.

ed2hess
12-18-2007, 07:32 PM
We have got some seed to come up in Austin in areas that water didn't extend to....just be patient. If you could find some of that blue stuff that the hydro mulch seed guys use that would help .....maybe cover it with compost. Might be time to go to crushed granite...since both our cities want us to cut back on water and put some native grasses just to have something.

superdan
12-18-2007, 07:36 PM
really? ok...the only way rye will come up is if you water it daily! no chance otherwise. how did you figure seed would come up without daily watering? they need an irrigation plain and simple. if not o well. they get a crappy lookin yard. nothin you can do bout it.

I got brave when I tried it on my own grass this year. I used the same seed, under the same conditions (no water given-just rain & dew) and mine, although a bit uneven, sprouted decent. I hoped for the same result on the job site, but no dice. Guess I got lucky once.

Whitey4
12-18-2007, 09:56 PM
It doesn't make much sense to try to grow grass on those islands. Shrubs and mulch, or just granite stones with a weed barrier.

B_gerrits
12-18-2007, 11:08 PM
It doesn't make much sense to try to grow grass on those islands. Shrubs and mulch, or just granite stones with a weed barrier.

Question for you guys what in your area is mulch? Here mulch is not ornamental it looks like a bunch of ground leaves it is used for weed suppression and erosion usually in gardens and hillsides.

Whitey4
12-19-2007, 12:37 AM
We have all sorts of mulch available around here. no leaves in it, looks more like wood chips. In fact, some stuff sold as mulch is wood chips. That is in the retail stores. Good mulch, at least around here makes for a nice finish.

tjsquickcuts
12-19-2007, 11:18 PM
Two things....the first is how well did you prep the area???? The second is did you use lime and fert? I took a chance this year and went ahead and overseeded even though we are gettting the worst of the drought, and to my surprise I have had some good luck. Thats not to say I dont have some thin spots because I do, but for the most part its all uniformed and looking really green and good. It seems that after each rain it gets thicker and thicker. I agree with everyone, so just be patient and you might have some hope....

B_gerrits
12-19-2007, 11:50 PM
We have all sorts of mulch available around here. no leaves in it, looks more like wood chips. In fact, some stuff sold as mulch is wood chips. That is in the retail stores. Good mulch, at least around here makes for a nice finish.
It is funny how the names for certain products change with region also materials that are used change with region. Where I live I have never seen pine straw dont have the slightest idea what it is, been in the buis 10 years. We use ground or shredded bark usually cedar, use to be redwood , or what people like to call tan bark which is the cedar wood chips. I don't think we have granite stones here either but of course we have a ton of different stones to choose from.

Grass Happens
12-20-2007, 12:32 AM
The reason it kinda worked at your house, is that it is not surrounded by asphalt/concrete reflecting sun light. With the increased temperature, it was sucking every last drop of moisture out of the soil. You cannot plant anything, everywhere. Look into xeriscaping plants for your area.