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Grass_Slayer
10-21-2001, 11:27 PM
ok guys, was cuttin today and thought about what i would do if one of my yards got rolled. happens a lot in west tennessee. so i thought on about it, and came up with this. i'm gonna put an ad in the paper that says grass slayers lawn service will clean up your yard if it gets rolled, i want to do it for about $5 a bush $10 a tree and start at $25 for cleaning the yard. if any have input go ahead and tell me, i want to put an ad in the paper tomorrow or the next day. maybe u do this, give me some tricks of the trade :blob2:
gonna be a sweet business
:blob2:

Runner
10-21-2001, 11:34 PM
What are you saying, that you're going to roll the lawns too?

kutnkru
10-21-2001, 11:35 PM
Okay. I'll Bite??? What in tarnation are you talking about??? :confused:

If you are talking about the removal of undesireable plants and other debris (ie. downed limbs and such) then you would either charge them an hourly rate for the pick-up and disposal - or - you would charge them a per truckload price with a one load minimum.

As for the lawn rolling part of your equation this is a service that is offered up here in the springtime - not the fall!!!

Then in regards to your pricing for clean-up I would charge them a one hour minimum whatever that price may be for your outfit.

Hope this helps you some - cause you lost me in your question - LOL!!! :laugh:

Kris

Grass_Slayer
10-21-2001, 11:38 PM
no no no yall arent gettin it. around haloween people here go out and roll yards, you know, with toilet paper. the stuff is hard as all heck to get cleaned up. i think i could make a little bit more cleanin it up than just sittin on my butt at the house

scottt
10-21-2001, 11:41 PM
I am going to look pretty dumb if I'm wrong, but I think he's talking about your house being toilet papered. If I'm right, you need to raise your prices quite a bit. They are going to want you to be there right away and it takes a while to clean up.

Looks like I was a little late. Your reply wasn't there when I started typing.

kutnkru
10-21-2001, 11:42 PM
Yes I think that you could make money removing the toilet tissue from the foliar tissue - LOL!!!

I would not advertise this service because it may look as though you did it to profit from it. Best thing to do is to drive around the next morning and distribute business cards so they can contact you if interested.

Just tell them you were coming thru the area, and get set to call Labor Ready to get enough help to wipe several neighborhoods clear a day.

Good Luck!!!
Kris

little green guy
10-21-2001, 11:45 PM
Have fun! I think I'll stick to leave cleanups as much as i hate em'.

Grass_Slayer
10-21-2001, 11:55 PM
well in my area there are about 5-10 pro cutters providing service to about 7500 people in the town. there are more people out in the county but business is really thick. we do whatever we can around here to compete with each other so i think i may still put it in our weekly paper. business is so tough around here that other "pro" cutters flip me off while i'm mowin. i'm only 17 and i think they are just envious. (they use craftsman riding tractors)

Runner
10-22-2001, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by kutnkru
Yes I think that you could make money removing the toilet tissue from the foliar tissue - LOL!!!

get set to call Labor Ready to get enough help to wipe several neighborhoods clear a day.

Good Luck!!!
Kris

Hey, Kris, NICE pun!:D

awm
10-22-2001, 08:14 AM
a hand held blower vac w good air power will clean the paper up easy. dampen the paper on hedges etc,as this helps the vac get it all. vac neds to be strong . i use the poulan pro at 200 mph air
speed.if i had a vac on my mower ,seems like that would work
for lawn.

MOW ED
10-22-2001, 08:41 AM
Being that Green Bay is one of the Toilet paper meccas of the U.S. and this happens to make the paper mills even richer, I appreciate the enterpreneurial spirit in you.

The rule here is that you have to give consent for the TP'ing or else the PD come to wipe your a$$ with fines. So if people give consent it usually means that they have a teen age son or daughter that is on the clean-up committee. This strange tradition usually co-insides with local H.S. homecomings of which my cities was cancelled because of rampant vandalism last year.

It is funny to see all the crappaper in the trees and all over the lawn. It usually goes away by spring. If you need the work then give it a try. If you aren't busy enough catchin leafs then might as well do something outside and sort of lawn related.
Good Luck.

Richard Martin
10-22-2001, 12:22 PM
Finally, a post that makes me laugh. Hey man, ya'll need to introduce the youngin's to Nintendo. They'll never wanna step out the house agin.

kutnkru
10-22-2001, 12:48 PM
Actually i found this post to be quite refreshing -LOL!!! since many of these youngunz today refuse to do anything to help themselves let alone use the toilet tissue for themselves LOL!!!

mdb landscaping
10-22-2001, 12:51 PM
does that include silly string and smashed pumpkins?

Grass_Slayer
10-22-2001, 01:34 PM
i'm in a study hall in school right now and i thought i would check the post. it usually works good i u burn the stuff out of trees, i didn't even think of using a blower. i did think about using a blower to roll the yard though:blob2:

lawnboy82
10-22-2001, 02:17 PM
Ahem.... Did you just say you wanted to "BURN" the TP out of the trees? Think again! :angry: If you want to get the paper out of the trees, try an aerial lift. You can rent a small one for about $200 a day. You can buy one I should assume starting around 50K. That is how you properly remove toilet paper from a tree, not by burning.

Lawn Dog2001
10-22-2001, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by lawnboy82
Ahem.... Did you just say you wanted to "BURN" the TP out of the trees? Think again! :angry: If you want to get the paper out of the trees, try an aerial lift. You can rent a small one for about $200 a day. You can buy one I should assume starting around 50K. That is how you properly remove toilet paper from a tree, not by burning.

:eek: Are you seriously suggesting that GrassSlayer purchase a $50,000 aerial lift to remove toilet paper???? No offence but that sounds about as ridiculous as burning down the tree.

lawnboy82
10-22-2001, 03:04 PM
Lawndog- I don't think that people are going to want to see flames in their trees. Needless to say that is not good for the life of the tree. I said about buying an aerial lift, you can easily rent one for about $200 per day. Now if you have the ability to climb on your own then the bucket truck should not be needed. By the way, 50K is cheap for a new truck. 100K and up is usually about what they go for, and even then you can't get everything. Anyways the point I was trying to make here is that I can throw a roll of toilet paper pretty high up into trees, and to clean them out for what? $10 then you must be able to do that pretty fast. I have taken botany classes, and arboriculture classes. In both of those classes it was stated that fire and trees do not mix.

Lawn Dog2001
10-22-2001, 04:19 PM
I am in no way condoning burning the paper out of the tree. I hope he was kidding about doing that. I am just saying that it is not fesible to spend $200 in rental, or $100k for a bucket truck to clean up TP. If there are customers out there willing to spend 200+ to clean up TP, then I may need to offer this service as well. Just kidding. Lets face it. Anyone who asks for this to be done is thinking 10 bucks. To be honest with you if anyone ever asked us to do this I would say no. I have much better things to do than cleaning up toliet paper for $10.

Guido
10-22-2001, 04:41 PM
#1 your not a janitor are you? If you are, your on the right track. I'd think you should have better money to make down different avenues than picking toliet paper off trees.

#2 Please tell me where your house is so I can paper the trees to watch you burn them down to the ground, maybe even catching your house on fire in the process. It will be a great show.

#3 Even serious suggestions about a manlift, etc to do this is a joke in my eyes. I don't believe the market is really there for this. Customers may even loose some respect for you if your resorting to cleaning up toilet paper to make money.

#4 I DON'T TAKE ANYTHING GRASS SLAYER SAYS SERIOUSLY. Its all too stupid for me to believe this is a real person, and it's not just in this thread, look at the others.

little green guy
10-22-2001, 06:45 PM
Hey lawnboy, I don't think you need classes to know that fire and trees don't mix ;)

and oh yah Grass Slayer, you think 5- 10 other companies is bad to compete with, try 200 thats how many are in my area. I'm not exagerating either, I know for a fact that thier are over 200 PROFFESIONAL companies, that dosn't include scrubs. .:eek:

Anyway have fun cleaning that toilet paper up, maybe you can keep it and have a life time supply for your house, just think you'll never have to spend money on tiolet paper agian. :)

Grass_Slayer
10-22-2001, 11:45 PM
ok i dont go around talkin bout u guys or anything now do i?? guido u can lick mine. i have burt the paper out of my own trees before and it does not harm the trees. the paper is so flamable that the fire follows the line all the way up the tree. and its just a little bitty smolder, not a huge flame. oh and whoever said fire and trees dont mix. have you ever heard of yearly or three year intervals for stands of pine trees?? it helps pine trees to grow better!:blob2:

lawnboy82
10-22-2001, 11:52 PM
Grass Slayer, the only thing I can possibly think of in your reference to one and three year cycles in stands of pine trees is that they lose their needles on that cycle. Even that though I am not sure of. Now while burning is beneficial in large stands of forrest, in a residential area that does no good whatsoever to trees. If you wish to learn more about trees and what harm happens to them from fire damage feel free to contact me, so that I can help to put you in contact with individuals who are more learned than myself in the field of arboriculture.

Grass_Slayer
10-22-2001, 11:56 PM
i wasnt really talkin bout residential use. u just said that fire and trees did not mix. it really does help stands of pine cause it clears out all the needles, undergrowth, and promotes new animal and plant life. however it is not a good idea to try this on stands of hardwood!

65hoss
10-22-2001, 11:58 PM
This is great. It may eventually become on the same level as "peeing in the bushes".


I guess you could always "wipe it up". haha.:cool:

lawnboy82
10-23-2001, 12:01 AM
GrassSlayer, if a tree dies how can that be good for that tree? Fire kills trees. If it doesnt kill them then it at least does significant damage to them. In forrest areas they do not burn for the health of the trees. They burn for one, like you said to establish a new ecosystem. However the main reason they burn is in order to lessen the effects and damage caused from future forrest fires.

Grass_Slayer
10-23-2001, 12:06 AM
i guess u will have to prove me wrong, i'm not a logger nor o i claim to raise timber, but my next door neighbor does and my dad graded lumber for 15 years. i am more than likely wrong though, i usually am. that peeing in the bushes thing was really funny though.:D

Scag48
10-23-2001, 12:09 AM
Dang, this post is hilarious! Man, if somebody saw me burning TP out of a tree, I'd be shot on site. You're trying to be a professional and you want to burn TP out of trees?! That doesn't look very professional to me. Even the thing about pickin' up TP doesn't really show professionalism either, unless you had to mow the lawn and needed to pick it up. If it is a whole new service, I wouldn't advertise for it. It seems to me that if your customers want you to do it, you should for a price, but don't advertise. It would make me look stupid if I did in a town of 6,000 people. To me, it doesn't seem like you care what your professional image is to the people in your town, Grass Slayer. Try to improve your image, not going around and picking up TP for people.

Grass_Slayer
10-23-2001, 12:14 AM
it was just an idea i thought u guys might think it was funny! now i get my a$$ chewed out for something that happens a lot aroun here. i just wanted to make some extra cash, is that such a crime?? i probably wont do it anyway cause the cops around here might find it a little fishy they dont have much to do.

anyway, i'm goin to bed, i got to go to school in the mornin. i wish i could have gone to the bbq to meet some of u guys, but we had a band competition in mussel shoals, al. i really would like to meet some of u guys!

Lawn Dog2001
10-24-2001, 06:52 PM
Grass Slayer Scenario:

GrassSlayer drives down a residential street and spots a potential toilet paper removal job. He proceedes to knock at the door and ask the owner if he would like to have the toilet paper burned out of the tree for $5. The owner askes "Isnt that a potential fire hazzard? "Absolutely not" GrasSlayer exclaims. "Trees love fire. Im not sure there is anything better for a tree than a good burn". The owner decides to let Slayer do the work. Grass Slayer then goes to the tree, finds the lowest strand of toilet paper he can find, and lights it on fire with a lighter. After burning down the entire tree, two residential houses, and a detached garage, Grass Slayer collects his $10 and calls it a day.

LawnBoy82 Scenario:

Lawnboy answers a phone call from a customer asking about toilet paper removal. He tells the customer he will prepare a formal estimate within a couple of days. Lawnboy then calls his admissions office to schedule Toilet paper Removal 101, Intro to Toilet Paper Manegment, and Toilet Paper Removal as a Business. After completing this courses Lawnboy82 is now qualified to remove the paper. Lawnboy then shows up at the job. He then begins to put up a construction line around the tree. He hires to flagmen to flag cars by as he removes the paper. In comes a large bucket truck. Lawnboy then begins remove the paper, and calls in an asbestos removal team to properly remove the toliet paper. Lawnboy82 hands the bill to the customer for services rendered. $5812.56

Please dont take this post to personally. After reading your posts these to scenarios popped into my head. Its meant for comedy, not to flame you both out, as I am by no means perfect.

Grass_Slayer
10-24-2001, 11:43 PM
that scenario is awesome!!! I love the part about the classes!! What is it with u and bucket trucks man?? Personally i like pettibone 4wd 4ws forklifts! They can go through more stuff to get down more paper. I think i have taken ur advice and fogone the toilet paper issue, i am looking into the lighting thing though!!:D