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JoeyD
01-11-2008, 08:39 PM
Hey so you guys are all mechanical and I know one of you guys has some good knowledge of older cars and engines.

So a guy owed me some money and I ended up taking his 1965 Galaxie 500 off of him instead of cash. The car is pretty much all original but it does have a different motor than the original 352 it came with, or is it? My problem and question is I for the life of me cannot identify the motor. The guy who I got it from told me he thinks its a 429, someone else thinks its a 390. My question is without removing the valve covers how can I identify the motor? I looked on the bottom where the motor mates to the tranny and saw nothing, the block that we can see says nothing? The Valve covers are blue if that matters. Anyone have any advice??

JoeyD
01-11-2008, 08:52 PM
I just found out that if it only has 5 bolts on the valve cover that it is not a 429. Could be a 352/360/361/390/391/406/410/427/428 (FE engine).

hosejockey2002
01-12-2008, 02:38 PM
Where's the distributor mounted?

JoeyD
01-13-2008, 06:41 PM
front of motor in front of air filter/carb

bigw
01-13-2008, 06:46 PM
I just found out that if it only has 5 bolts on the valve cover that it is not a 429. Could be a 352/360/361/390/391/406/410/427/428 (FE engine).

sorry but no such motor 352 in a ford car,352 was a truck only motor. I was a mechanic for along time and its either a 351 windsor,351 clevland 351 boss"which i doubt" i DOUBT IT but it could be a big block 390,427,428 or 429

JoeyD
01-13-2008, 07:10 PM
sorry but no such motor 352 in a ford car,352 was a truck only motor. I was a mechanic for along time and its either a 351 windsor,351 clevland 351 boss"which i doubt" i DOUBT IT but it could be a big block 390,427,428 or 429


Thanks but you are definitly wrong. It came with a 352 and has 352 emblems on the side of the car.......http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb97/ulsjoeyd/Picture664.jpg
they are the emblems next to the fender well.

I have narrowed it down to a 352/390/or428. Someone told me they all share the same block that I will have to measure the pistons to determine the displacement??

LindblomRJ
01-13-2008, 11:45 PM
Did you take a look here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_FE_engine

hosejockey2002
01-14-2008, 01:06 AM
front of motor in front of air filter/carb

With the distributor in front and five bolts on each valve cover it sounds like you have a small block, i.e. 289/302/351 Windsor. IIRC the big block Fords have the distributor in the back with six or eight bolts on the valve covers. Been a long time since I've had or worked on one so I could be way off here. Oops, on edit I read the above link and those motors also have the distributor in the front.

bigw
01-14-2008, 01:25 AM
Thanks but you are definitly wrong. It came with a 352 and has 352 emblems on the side of the car.......http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb97/ulsjoeyd/Picture664.jpg
they are the emblems next to the fender well.

I have narrowed it down to a 352/390/or428. Someone told me they all share the same block that I will have to measure the pistons to determine the displacement??

Well i stand corrected,its been along time since i even thought about old fords which by the way i am a ford man. I didnt remember the galaxie having a 352 but i did my homework and you are correct.They actually had 5 engines for that one car that year.MY 1955 ford pu use to have a 352 and i assumed it was a truck motor only.I remember a 260,289 windsor,289 hypo,302 windsor,302 boss,351 w/clev/boss,390,427,428 and 429 Dam i think thats the first time i have been wrong in like 25 years..lol j/k. hey nice car though,i did have a 1966 ford fairlane Gt at one time with a 390 in it!!:weightlifter:

AI Inc
01-14-2008, 05:40 AM
Hey I always thought truck engines were 1 bigger too.I never saw a 352 in a car.

yardmanlee
01-14-2008, 06:52 AM
it looks to be in very good shape !!! what are youre plans for it ?

JoeyD
01-14-2008, 06:49 PM
it looks to be in very good shape !!! what are youre plans for it ?


Thanks for all your help guys. I hope to figure this motor thing out soon so I can start working on the motor some more.

It runs like a dream, strong motor and the tranny seems to shift really smooth. It has cherry bombs instead of mufflers so it sounds good as well. I just need to start polishing up the engine compartment and I want to re do the interior. once thats done and I cruise it a bit i plan on selling it and buying a 63 or 64 Cadillac Coupe De Ville to hot rod out and bag. I am more intot he earlier chopped hot rods (rat rods) but this car just fell into my lap. SO I will have some fun with it.

Heres the old Cadillac
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb97/ulsjoeyd/63cad-1.jpg
and one that I dream of!
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb97/ulsjoeyd/JoeyD6607043.jpg

JoeyD
01-14-2008, 06:57 PM
Well i stand corrected,its been along time since i even thought about old fords which by the way i am a ford man. I didnt remember the galaxie having a 352 but i did my homework and you are correct.They actually had 5 engines for that one car that year.MY 1955 ford pu use to have a 352 and i assumed it was a truck motor only.I remember a 260,289 windsor,289 hypo,302 windsor,302 boss,351 w/clev/boss,390,427,428 and 429 Dam i think thats the first time i have been wrong in like 25 years..lol j/k. hey nice car though,i did have a 1966 ford fairlane Gt at one time with a 390 in it!!:weightlifter:

Dont sweat it. I heard the same thing from about 10 other people. I really hope its a 390 and they didnt replace it with a 352. There is stilL hope that its a 428 though? I will jsut have to wait and see what transpires. Soemone told me the only way to tell the difference is to meassure the pistons and determine the displacement, that the 390 and 352 utilize the same block. Same guy said that the 428 would be really rare? Someone else told me they could tell by the firing order which this does have the firing order stamped ont he intake manifold.

I will keep you all posted!! (not that you care baout my old heap...LOL)

AI Inc
01-14-2008, 07:34 PM
Dont sweat it. I heard the same thing from about 10 other people. I really hope its a 390 and they didnt replace it with a 352. There is stilL hope that its a 428 though? I will jsut have to wait and see what transpires. Soemone told me the only way to tell the difference is to meassure the pistons and determine the displacement, that the 390 and 352 utilize the same block. Same guy said that the 428 would be really rare? Someone else told me they could tell by the firing order which this does have the firing order stamped ont he intake manifold.

I will keep you all posted!! (not that you care baout my old heap...LOL)

Actualy it was the 427 that was the animal , factory 425 hp

Gravel Rat
01-14-2008, 09:14 PM
My Uncle had the same exact car and it was 390 powered. I'am pretty sure that one is the same. If the engine loves to rev its a 390.

There is another way of indentifying a 390 buy the harmonic balancer and flex plate.

I doubt the engine is a 352 that is too old and its not a 360.

The FE common displacments 360-361-390-391-427 and 428.

Ford engines were never really classed as big block small block. The FE was one group the 385 group 429-460. The 351 Windor was a stand alone engine. The 351 modified is a variation of the 351 cleveland but the cleveland shared the 302-351 bellhousing. The 351m-400 used the 429-460 bellhousing. Then you get into Lincoln they had some odd ball engines.

I was only a year old when the 390 was stopped being made.

AI Inc
01-15-2008, 02:31 AM
Wasnt there also a 390 with Maurader heads?

JoeyD
01-15-2008, 11:47 AM
The motor definitly loves to rev! If I had the right gearing and tranny set up I think this motor could really be unleashed. The thing sounds really mean when I give it some RPM but that could ahve something to do with the glass packs.