View Full Version : just some quoting opinions on ripping shrubs out.
jasonlandscape
01-13-2008, 09:15 PM
i got a house where i'm goin to be ripping out several azaelas, boxwood hollys, and then making about 4 of the tall 10ft hollies into tree/mushroom shapes. then i gotta grade out the front bed and extend it around the fir tree. also that fir tree, can it be pruned up or should i leave the branches all the way down?
basically everything in these pics are going to be ripped out except the trees and tall hollies.
i know about how much its gonna cost, just wanted more opinions than my own.
theres 2 more holies to be shaped on side of house and another row of boxwoods to be ripped out
property is about 10 miles away
gonna rent a dingo with attachments and a chipper
everything is goin to be hauled off by trailer
everything is goin to be prepped to plant new plantings.. cultivated/raked
i don't need any exact estimates...just say oh around 2000 or somethin...not like 2235.12 lol
carcrz
01-13-2008, 09:48 PM
I'd use a loader w/ some forks & dig right under then to pop them out. I'd guess somewhere around 2 grand also. Pics help, but ya know...
jasonlandscape
01-13-2008, 10:05 PM
I'd use a loader w/ some forks & dig right under then to pop them out. I'd guess somewhere around 2 grand also. Pics help, but ya know...
there are 3 pics there. or are u sayin my pics do help?
SiteSolutions
01-13-2008, 10:08 PM
Several things you have to do to get that job done...
1. Rip out the shrubs
2. Dig up as much of the roots as you can
3. Grind it up
4. Haul it off
5. Dispose of it somewhere, somehow
6. Fix the beds for new stuff
Two grand sounds like the right ballpark. Depends on how much the hauling is going to set you back. This looks like it would take maybe three days to get it all done and pretty lookin. I'd say 2100 + hauling / disposal. But then again, hard to say exactly without being there, meeting the people, etc...
carcrz
01-13-2008, 10:10 PM
I was saying they do help. Pics are always better than nothing, but still not as good as in person. Know what I'm saying?
Lawnworks
01-13-2008, 10:12 PM
How far are you hauling the material? If it isn't too far you might could get away w/ not renting the chipper. I think you could get everything ripped out and pruned in one day w/ 2-3 guys. Probably take a day to the removal and another day for clean-up and prep. $1500-2000
A skid loader would definately pop thoses things right up, but I think he would have some turf damage.
jasonlandscape
01-13-2008, 11:18 PM
How far are you hauling the material? If it isn't too far you might could get away w/ not renting the chipper. I think you could get everything ripped out and pruned in one day w/ 2-3 guys. Probably take a day to the removal and another day for clean-up and prep. $1500-2000
A skid loader would definately pop thoses things right up, but I think he would have some turf damage.
i'm renting a dingo...you think that will pop em up?
Lawnworks
01-13-2008, 11:20 PM
Yeah I think a dingo will do it just fine. I use about a 6' chain to rip them out. I wrap one end around the trunk of the shrub and just hook the other end to the bucket. I would try to rent a tracked dingo... much easier to operate and less turf damage.
Fahzu
01-13-2008, 11:31 PM
Hey guys, I'm curious about using the dingo for that shrub removal. I have never used one or anything like it (I just do lawns). Does it have enough leverage for large shrub removal? And if so, how strong are they actually?
Bigred350
01-14-2008, 12:44 AM
That dingo isnt going to do crap on those shrubs. You are going to need a good size 4x4 tractor or a 3/4 or 1 ton truck to pull all that up. If you plan on pulling those hollys up then for get it. Cut them down with a chain saw and get a stump grinder. Those hollys will have some hella of some roots on them!!
mowing grass 1111
01-14-2008, 01:15 AM
i would dig them out with a mini excavator
jasonlandscape
01-14-2008, 01:51 AM
if the dingo doesn't rip em out i got a cummins that will
just hopefully it won't rip the whole yard out with it.
bishoplandscape
01-14-2008, 03:02 AM
Use a mini ex, You can control the root damage and get around the yard easily. A dingo will do nothing to those but make a mess and hooking it to a pick up i say no way. That job really worth the damage to the truck and pealing the whole yard up?
SiteSolutions
01-14-2008, 08:22 AM
You've got the slope to help you yank them with a truck, but a truck can't load the bushes up once they're out. The mini-ex is cheap to rent and as easy to use as a dingo. If you'd have to rent the dingo anyway, the mini-ex is a better choice on this job. It can pull the bushes, it can dig what doesn't pull up, and it can load out a lot of the mess.
If you want to get real fancy, rent the mini ex the first day or two and then get the dingo or a small ctl to finish up.
With this much work you might as well figure on fixing some spots in the yard. It would be hard to avoid at least some damage to the lawn.
Lawnworks
01-14-2008, 08:46 AM
He is leaving the larger hollies. All he is pulling out is the yaupons, boxwoods, and azaealas. The dingo will work fine.
greg1
01-14-2008, 09:29 AM
Remember to locate underground utilities first. :usflag:
jasonlandscape
01-14-2008, 10:49 AM
He is leaving the larger hollies. All he is pulling out is the yaupons, boxwoods, and azaealas. The dingo will work fine.
lol yeah i know, someone said i'm ripping out the huge hollies, but i'm not.
if i were taking those out id cut them down first then grind up the stumps.
teejet
01-14-2008, 02:45 PM
good thing those are azelea's if they were were yews I wouldn't even try it with a ton truck. If you use a truck and they don't come out easy cut some of the roots with your shovel. Just use a shovel to take the boxwoods out.
Coghlin
01-14-2008, 08:45 PM
I have ripped out bushes similar to that with my MT55 and it will yank those bushes out no problem. It can be done one of two ways. I would hack them off with a chainsaw but not too short then you can peel them out with pallet forks. You just slide the pallet fork under roots and then pry up using the leverage of the forks and not the lifting capacity of the machine. Another way is to take off the bucket and get a good 6' chain and hook it directly to the attachment plate, this way you get the most lift capacity. The dingo will have a lot more power than a truck unless you have good strap and take a run at it but that is not very professional. Hard to control as well. I bet you could rip everything out in an hour. Then you have the rest of the day to make everything pretty. A tiller might be good investment for cleaning up.
jasonlandscape
01-14-2008, 09:14 PM
I have ripped out bushes similar to that with my MT55 and it will yank those bushes out no problem. It can be done one of two ways. I would hack them off with a chainsaw but not too short then you can peel them out with pallet forks. You just slide the pallet fork under roots and then pry up using the leverage of the forks and not the lifting capacity of the machine. Another way is to take off the bucket and get a good 6' chain and hook it directly to the attachment plate, this way you get the most lift capacity. The dingo will have a lot more power than a truck unless you have good strap and take a run at it but that is not very professional. Hard to control as well. I bet you could rip everything out in an hour. Then you have the rest of the day to make everything pretty. A tiller might be good investment for cleaning up.
yeah, i'm not using my truck.
u think a tiller or a cultivator would be better....cuz i got to grade the gass in between the exsisting bed and the big fir tree.
Coghlin
01-15-2008, 06:44 PM
I like the tiller for grading and making things pretty. I have also used it for removing vines from trees and all sorts of things but I am sure there are better attachments It has worked well for me on jobs where cleanup after rip out. It will get hung on roots though but if you go slow it will chew up the smaller ones and the bigger ones can get removed with the pallet forks or shovel and saw.
dKoester
01-15-2008, 06:49 PM
Get the utilities marked first. You don't want any surprises.
jasonlandscape
01-15-2008, 07:21 PM
Get the utilities marked first. You don't want any surprises.
thats free right?
Lawnworks
01-15-2008, 09:07 PM
Yes it is free... the number is 800-282-7411. If you hit a utility, you are basically not liable if you call the number and get the property located. They will need about 3-5 days notice to get it located.
tamadrummer
01-15-2008, 09:29 PM
thats free right?
Don't want to be a jerk but what difference does it make. Free or not, the last thing you want to do is rip out the gas line or water line going into the house because you didn't call. Those are some huge shrubs and the area encompasses the entire front of that house, you will likely be on top of plenty of the utilities at some point.
But yes it is free.:rolleyes:
jasonlandscape
01-15-2008, 09:37 PM
Don't want to be a jerk but what difference does it make. Free or not, the last thing you want to do is rip out the gas line or water line going into the house because you didn't call. Those are some huge shrubs and the area encompasses the entire front of that house, you will likely be on top of plenty of the utilities at some point.
But yes it is free.:rolleyes:
oh well yeh i mean even if it did cost i'd still get it done...
i just remember someone sayin its free.
joesimoes2
01-15-2008, 09:43 PM
You can always rent this guy :drinkup:
Alan Mesmer
01-15-2008, 09:47 PM
Mini Ex in the 6500 to 9500 lb. range will do the tear out in less than 4 hrs.
May also take out anything else shallow unmarked(sewer line, downspout lines, landscape lighting, sprinklers, etc.) Don't use a chain - see if you can rent a large mini EX with a hydraulic thumb and it will save you quite a bit of hand work loading pieces and stumps.
Good luck
jasonlandscape
01-15-2008, 09:55 PM
You can always rent this guy :drinkup:
how much is it per day and where do i rent it....
joesimoes2
01-15-2008, 09:57 PM
This is all you need to dig those trees out :cry:
Whitey4
01-16-2008, 03:51 AM
Holly's are tough little trees. They can rebound from a heavy cutback maybe better than any ornamental with the exception of forsythias. As far as removing the lower branches on that pine... you could do it, but then you will have to dress up the bottom somehow, nothing will grow under that tree. Some sort of mulched bed with a decorative stone border could work.
Yankin that stuff... I dare not even comment on it. I don't do that sort of heavy removal. I'd sub it to an tree outfit.
dKoester
01-16-2008, 12:59 PM
To get the utilities marked around here its free.
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