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LawnsRUsInc.
01-29-2008, 09:10 PM
For you guys and girls that tow with cab overs what size would you recommend? I had found a nice w 3500 6.0 gas but dont really know how well it would do with a 6k skid steer on the trailer behind it.

LawnsRUsInc.
01-30-2008, 04:31 PM
No one has any insight?

MarcSmith
01-30-2008, 04:38 PM
my folks had a late 90's chevy(isuzu) 5.7L with a gvw of 14k, and it towed an enclosed trailer, but not just any trailer it was made with expanded metal side and corrugated aluminum, roof I know it sound hookey, but it was a pretty nice trailer. with two walkers, and on ocassion he'd put is JD bush hog on it. with no issues. It wouldn't win any races but it got the job done...see if you can find the gear ratio. that would make more of a difference than the engine....

LawnsRUsInc.
01-30-2008, 05:43 PM
Thanks thats helpful i will look into it! And i was looking to haul a skid loader on the trailer for landscaping

mag360
01-30-2008, 06:40 PM
The 6.0 is a powerhouse. You don't hear alot of complaints from those who run them. Can you get a test drive and tow your setup?

LawnsRUsInc.
01-30-2008, 07:02 PM
Well i found a great deal on a 6.0 npr with a 12' dump body 49k miles $16,000. But i hate to have a truck that you cant throw 3-4 yds of dirt in it and a s205 loader on a trailer. Oh and the truck i was looking at is located in Cali and i am in WI.

PROCUT1
01-30-2008, 07:05 PM
I say a 1993 Mitsubishi fuso

A red and black one

MarcSmith
01-30-2008, 08:49 PM
Oh and the truck i was looking at is located in Cali and i am in WI.

so, SW AIR has cheap tickets. fly one way and drive back...takin some sights along the way. find out if there are any schools in the area and see if there are kids who want to move some of their stuff back home...before the end of the school year....

LawnsRUsInc.
01-30-2008, 08:55 PM
Well that would help but not sure if that would help me check the pulling lol though thats actually something i would do.

hosejockey2002
01-31-2008, 12:14 AM
But i hate to have a truck that you cant throw 3-4 yds of dirt in it and a s205 loader on a trailer.

To tow and haul that load together you're going to want a truck with a GVWR of 17,500 or more. The W3500 has a GVWR of 12,000 so it will be way overloaded with 4 yards of dirt in the back.

ConstSvcs
01-31-2008, 08:30 AM
To tow and haul that load together you're going to want a truck with a GVWR of 17,500 or more. The W3500 has a GVWR of 12,000 so it will be way overloaded with 4 yards of dirt in the back.


Yep.........something like a Fuso FH-211. That chassis came with a 6 cyl. six speed standard or a 6cyl. Allison auto package. The workhorse of the 17.5k gvw's.

But for the long hall (value wise) perhaps a Isuzu FRR is the way to go. they're gvw is 19.5K and the chassis and drivetrain ia a big jump from the 17.5K chassis.

Remember think about the Combined Vehicle Weight Rating............not just GVW..........when pulling your equipment.

Landstyles2
01-31-2008, 01:54 PM
do you really need a cab over. I drive a c5500 crew cab with the duramax engine and allison tranny with a 12' dump box. I tow around a john deere ct 322 skid steer and can take 2-4 yrds no problem. In all truck and trailer is close to 50' in length and find no problem driving in the city. the turning radius is amazing on these trucks can almost outturn a f-350

LawnsRUsInc.
01-31-2008, 07:29 PM
Landstyle: Yea i just drove one all day i borrowed it from a friend it was a C5500 w/ central hyd and plow w/ a dump but i dont know if i can swing $70,000.

Lawnworks
02-01-2008, 12:07 AM
I don't think cab overs are that great for pulling 10,000 lbs. I would definately want more than the 4-cylinder or V8.

I have an FRR w/ a landscape body that I haul my Cat on. It can haul the skid steer very comfortably and stop great w/ air assisted brakes and a real jake brake.

wellbuilt
02-02-2008, 12:50 PM
I pull a 1200lb dump trailer The 16000gvw is great .I drove a F350 and 450s for years. The lcf is very kewl. and its so small i can use it like a loader on site. I have a yanmar vio 35 mini Ex that i move with it ,and it rides great. It is much better then my F 350 .I am a GC and use it like a pickup .I pull up to 26000gvw with lots of power left. (No CDL yet) The ford has much more power then the other cabovers.I would get the L55 if i did more dirt work18500 gvw They both have a max trailer of 1200.

hosejockey2002
02-02-2008, 02:59 PM
The ford has much more power then the other cabovers

Might want to check your specs. Ford LCF has a 4.5L V6 with 200 hp and 440 ft/lbs. of torque, Isuzu N-series has a 5.2L I4 with 205 hp and 441 ft/lbs. of torque.

wellbuilt
02-02-2008, 08:03 PM
There isnt a dealed around my yard .I liked the fusso with 4x4 but its only 14500 gvw and very slow .

Wing 97
02-02-2008, 08:45 PM
Since we're on the subject, what is a 2005 fh 18000 gvw auto with AC, dump, I-pak tool box, and hitch. It is a one ower 12000 mlie truck. The owner has been asking 26,000 for a while now. I never really priced this type of truck before so I am not familar with pricing.

BrandonV
02-02-2008, 09:31 PM
i'm getting a new lcf ford for about 35k + bed

hosejockey2002
02-04-2008, 01:19 AM
I liked the fusso with 4x4 but its only 14500 gvw and very slow .

Yeah, I drove one a couple of years ago and I agree. The truck was slow on hills with nothing in it. Empty weight with dump box and an L pack was close to 10K, so it only had around a 4K payload. Be sure to show off some pics of that new LCF.:usflag: