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INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
02-01-2008, 04:55 PM
Did you get ill at the AOLP conference in Scottsdale?

I did, and after improving for a couple of days (Tuesday was ok, Wednesday better) I have reversed and remain ill.

I went to see my Dr. today and am being tested for Salmonella (which we both doubt) and Clostridium Difficile (C-Def or C-Defficile). These tests will take a bit of time to come back given the collection regime and the fact that it is now the weekend.

If you are still ill, or feeling the effects of an upset stomach, gas, diarrahea (severe and prolonged in my case) chills, fever, fast heart rate then I highly encourage you to get to your Dr. Do not sit back and think that this will just pass.

Regards.

JoeyD
02-01-2008, 05:06 PM
Did you get ill at the AOLP conference in Scottsdale?

I did, and after improving for a couple of days (Tuesday was ok, Wednesday better) I have reversed and remain ill.

I went to see my Dr. today and am being tested for Salmonella (which we both doubt) and Clostridium Difficile (C-Def or C-Defficile). These tests will take a bit of time to come back given the collection regime and the fact that it is now the weekend.

If you are still ill, or feeling the effects of an upset stomach, gas, diarrahea (severe and prolonged in my case) chills, fever, fast heart rate then I highly encourage you to get to your Dr. Do not sit back and think that this will just pass.


Regards.


Post this on the AOLP forum as well if you havent already.

Pro-Scapes
02-01-2008, 05:38 PM
man looks like we REALLY missed out huh. Does anyone know the cause of it. Ash works in the hospital and doubted it could be the flu. Had to have been something in the water or food. I would start an email list of everyone that got sick and find the common factor.

irrig8r
02-01-2008, 08:06 PM
man looks like we REALLY missed out huh. Does anyone know the cause of it. Ash works in the hospital and doubted it could be the flu. Had to have been something in the water or food. I would start an email list of everyone that got sick and find the common factor.

Have you contacted the Maricopa County Health Department yet?

http://www.maricopa.gov/EnvSvc/EnvHealth/

You stayed at the Chapparal Suites?

They have had a few inspection violations, but apparently not recently.

http://www.maricopa.gov/envsvc/envwebapp/tabs/results.aspx?navigatedFrom=businessResultsDrillDown&mc_perm_id=12494&business=CHAPARRAL%20SUITES%20RESORT&address=5001%20%20%20N%20%20SCOTTSDALE%20RD&permitid=SG17470

http://www.maricopa.gov/envsvc/envwebapp/tabs/results.aspx?navigatedFrom=businessResultsDrillDown&mc_perm_id=19178&business=CHAPARRAL%20SUITES%20RESORT&address=5001%20%20%20N%20%20SCOTTSDALE%20RD&permitid=SG18884

Except maybe this on 1/28:

http://www.maricopa.gov/envsvc/envwebapp/tabs/results.aspx?navigatedFrom=inspectionResultsDrillDown&in_insp_id=1204444&cat=02&type=01

Az Gardener
02-02-2008, 12:22 AM
Sorry to ruin your theory but there are no sinister forces at work here. Just a bug/flu call it what you will. One of my guys that was not at the conference and my mother in law both have the same thing They have never seen each other and one lives about 15 miles from Chaparral Suites, the other about 45 miles.

Not to jack the thread but I joined AOLP at the conference and have not got so much as a receipt to show for my trouble. The conference was very helpful and I am confident I will see a return on my money several times over. I have heard there is a members only website and a members package of some sort and I have not been contacted by the mother-ship. Maybe next week?

INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
02-02-2008, 01:33 AM
Have you contacted the Maricopa County Health Department yet?

http://www.maricopa.gov/EnvSvc/EnvHealth/

You stayed at the Chapparal Suites?

They have had a few inspection violations, but apparently not recently.

http://www.maricopa.gov/envsvc/envwebapp/tabs/results.aspx?navigatedFrom=businessResultsDrillDown&mc_perm_id=12494&business=CHAPARRAL%20SUITES%20RESORT&address=5001%20%20%20N%20%20SCOTTSDALE%20RD&permitid=SG17470

http://www.maricopa.gov/envsvc/envwebapp/tabs/results.aspx?navigatedFrom=businessResultsDrillDown&mc_perm_id=19178&business=CHAPARRAL%20SUITES%20RESORT&address=5001%20%20%20N%20%20SCOTTSDALE%20RD&permitid=SG18884

Except maybe this on 1/28:

http://www.maricopa.gov/envsvc/envwebapp/tabs/results.aspx?navigatedFrom=inspectionResultsDrillDown&in_insp_id=1204444&cat=02&type=01

Thanks for this Gregg. My DR. encouraged me to contact the local health authorities. I tried the online reporting at that site and it is not online just now. I will call them on Monday.

If you did get sick in Scottsdale, it is very important that you contact the Authorities that are linked above. This is not a light hearted matter as AZ Gardener seems to imply. There was something wrong with the food/drink or sanitary conditions on that property or in the vicinity. There is little doubt that this is a bacterial infection and these are generally acquired through food/drink and can be spread by unsanitary employees handling the food.

If you got sick, please report it!

INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
02-02-2008, 01:38 AM
Sorry to ruin your theory but there are no sinister forces at work here. Just a bug/flu call it what you will.

Sir: This is no simple bug or flu. This is most certainly a bacterial infection of the GI tract, contracted from either the food, drink, or water. It very well could have been spread by unsanitary food handling practises at the hotel, or was in the water or some other common carrier. Too many of us got the same thing for it to be a random occurance.

If this is C-Def, then it is a VERY SERIOUS matter.

I encourage all who became ill to contact the local authorities and report it. If you are still ill, or feeling weak, do not hesitate to get checked by your Dr immediately.

Do some research before you spout off AZ Gardener.

Regards.

seolatlanta
02-02-2008, 09:05 AM
Hi James

First let me say it was nice to meet you at canference-Noble Fish was funny and you are a lot of fun to hang with!!

I also got very sick at conference but it was influenza-I went to the Dr on Tuesday . What I am saying is couldnt it have been at the restaurant we went to-didnt you have fish? I could be wrong. didnt you go to some other places as well.

All I am saying is it could have come from from anywhere-maybe in the cab, club , whatever. I am sorry you are ill. I havent worked all week and I lost my momentum coming from conference which really pisses me off.

I dont feel good this am still and it has been 7 days.

NightScenes
02-02-2008, 10:27 AM
I also was diagnosed with flu, nothing more.

INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting
02-02-2008, 11:22 AM
David. No doubt it could have been at the restuarant we went to on Thursday. It would be best to figure out a list of affected then see what our commonalities are.

I know John Pletcher got the same thing too. I think there are others but not sure. Paul is lucky he only got the flu!

I would seriously consider going to the Dr. David. If this is a strong bacterial infection such as C-Def, you do not want to mess around. Hopefully it is not. I am currently taking massive doses of pro-biotics and enzymes to try and balance the flora in my gut. Seems to be moderating things for now.

Be well.

irrig8r
02-02-2008, 11:45 AM
When you guys say you got the flu, do you mean what some call "stomach flu"?

Because honestly, there is no connection between GI symptoms and true influenza, which besides headaches, chills, fever is a mostly respiratory ailment.


I did some research about 2 years ago because over the course of two weeks I had something which caused me to vomit to the point of dry heaves... sometimes a couple or three times a day.. then I'd think I was getting better and eat something, and go through it all over again.. along with mild fever and headaches...

Funny thing was, my symptoms didn't include the runs, just vomiting that reminded me of Linda Blair in the Excorcist....

But different microbes will produce different symptoms, and a lot of them are passed on through improper food handling or hand washing, but lumped into this same category we call "stomach flu"...



Stomach Flu (Viral Gastroenteritis)

What is stomach flu?
Stomach flu is a viral infection that affects the stomach and small intestine. It is also called viral gastroenteritis. The illness is usually brief, lasting 1 to 3 days.

How does it occur?
Many different viruses can cause gastroenteritis, including rotaviruses, adenoviruses, and the Norwalk virus. Gastroenteritis is caused by swallowing one of these viruses. The body fluids of infected people contain the virus, sometimes even before their symptoms begin. The virus can be spread by direct contact with an infected person (for example, kissing or shaking hands) or by sharing food, drink, or eating utensils.

The virus enters the stomach and intestine and inflames the lining of these organs. As a result, the stomach and intestine are temporarily unable to perform their usual functions. The virus can also cause food to move more rapidly through your gastrointestinal (GI) tract.

Some bacteria, parasites, medicines, or other medical conditions can cause infections that have symptoms similar to those of stomach flu. If your symptoms are unusually severe or last longer than a few days, your health care provider can determine if the diarrhea is caused by a virus or by something else.

What are the symptoms?
When you have stomach flu, you may have one or more of the following symptoms:

nausea
vomiting
stomach cramps
diarrhea
mild fever
fatigue
chills
loss of appetite
muscle aches.
The illness may develop over a period of hours, or it may suddenly start with stomach cramps, vomiting, or diarrhea.

How is it diagnosed?
Your health care provider will review your symptoms. He or she may examine you and order lab tests to rule out more serious illnesses, such as appendicitis, and to detect complications, such as dehydration.

How is it treated?
The most important thing to do is to rest the stomach and intestines. You can do this by first eating nothing solid and drinking only clear liquids. A little later you can eat soft bland foods that are easy to digest.

If you have been vomiting a lot, it is best to have only small, frequent sips of liquids. Drinking too much at once, even an ounce or two, may cause more vomiting.

Your choice of liquids is important. If water is the only liquid you can drink without vomiting, that is okay. However, if you have been vomiting often for a long time, you must replace the minerals, sodium and potassium, that are lost when you vomit. Ask your health care provider what sport drinks or other commercial electrolyte replacement drinks could help you replace these minerals.

Other clear liquids you can drink are weak tea and apple juice. You may also drink soft drinks without caffeine (such as 7-UP) after letting them go flat (lose their carbonation). Chilling the liquids may help you keep them down. Avoid liquids that are acidic (such as orange juice) or caffeinated (such as coffee) or have a lot of carbonation. Do not drink milk until you no longer have diarrhea.

You may start eating soft bland foods when you have not vomited for several hours and are able to drink clear liquids without further upset. Soda crackers, toast, plain noodles, gelatin, eggs, applesauce, and bananas are good first choices. Avoid foods that are acidic, spicy, fatty, or fibrous (such as meats, coarse grains, vegetables). Also avoid dairy products. You may start eating these foods again in 3 days or so, when all signs of illness have passed.

Sometimes treatment includes prescription medicine to prevent nausea and vomiting or diarrhea. Nonprescription medicine is available for the treatment of diarrhea and can be very effective. If you use it, make sure you use only the dose recommended on the package. If you have chronic health problems, always check with your health care provider before you use any medicine for diarrhea.

If you have been vomiting for more than a day or have had diarrhea for over 3 days, call your health care provider. You may need to have an exam to rule out more serious problems and to check for dehydration. You may also need to have lab tests to determine whether bacteria or germs such as giardia are causing your illness.

Dehydration is a potentially serious complication of stomach flu. It can occur if your body loses too much fluid because you keep vomiting or having diarrhea. If you are severely dehydrated, you may need to be given fluids intravenously (IV). In children and older adults, dehydration can quickly become life threatening.

How long do the effects last?
Stomach flu rarely lasts longer than 1 to 3 days. However, it may be 1 to 2 weeks before your bowel habits return completely to normal.

How can I take care of myself?
Rest your stomach and intestines by following the guidelines above, but make sure you prevent dehydration by drinking enough liquids. Drink just small amounts often during the vomiting phase of your illness.
Do not take aspirin, ibuprofen, or other NSAIDS without checking first with your health care provider.

Call your health care provider if:
Your symptoms are getting worse.
You continue to have severe symptoms for more than 2 or 3 days, or you are just not getting better after a few days.
You develop symptoms that are not usually caused by stomach flu, such as blood in your vomit, bloody diarrhea, or severe abdominal pain.
What can I do to help prevent stomach flu?

The single, most helpful way to prevent the spread of stomach flu is frequent, thorough hand washing. Also, avoid contact with the body fluids of an infected person, including saliva. Don't share food with someone who has stomach flu.

NightScenes
02-02-2008, 11:51 AM
Mine was regular flu. I did go the the dr. and was treated.

irrig8r
02-02-2008, 12:05 PM
Mine was regular flu. I did go the the dr. and was treated.

Ever thought of getting a flu shot? I used to think it was wimping out, but then I got a dose of the flu (not stomach flu) and have been getting a shot every year for at least five years... so far no flu.

Locally, you can just go to a Longs Drugs or Rite Aid or Walgreens and something called the Visiting Nurses Association does it for something like $25. Good investment considering the lost income when you get hit.

NightScenes
02-02-2008, 05:48 PM
I'll be getting one every year from now on, I swear!!