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dmk395
11-01-2001, 11:06 PM
If I can cut 8-10 1/2 acre lawns per day with a 48metro, how much increased production will I have if I were to buy a 48lazer z rider mower?

LAWNGODFATHER
11-01-2001, 11:13 PM
Well, it's not going to go up any significant numbers, or any at all, but you will be able to sit on all the jobs instead of stand or walk.

I would suggest getting the rider to make your comfort level higher, sitting is better than standing. Plus the option of a leaf vac for it.

Might be a lot less tired at the end of the day.

dmk395
11-01-2001, 11:15 PM
Lawngodfather,

Would u suggest I just buy a sulkey?

TLS
11-01-2001, 11:19 PM
Go with a 52" Lazer Z HP with a 23hp Kawi. You have increased speed (over other HP's) and increased cut, plus you sit. Why are you stuck on a 48"?

dmk395
11-01-2001, 11:21 PM
TLS,

my question more or less revolves around the 8grand investment being that much more productive

Just Cut
11-01-2001, 11:26 PM
I've asked myself this same question, Ive looked at the spec's in regards to deck performance for both machines. I beleive that the deck spec's are the same for both of the machines. So there for regardless of the speed that can be obtained from the lazer you only can go so fast to obtain a qaulity cut which would be the same speed of the that the metro would be going to give a qaulity cut. I can not afford to spend the extra 5000 to 6000 dollars to sit down

dmk395
11-01-2001, 11:29 PM
Just cut, kinda what i was thinking. I mean I will shell out 8grand if it allows me to produce a few more lawns a day. Heck if a crew cuts 2 more yards, at 35 per yard, thats 70 extra profit. Multiply that by 5 days a week, 20 days a month. That would pay for itself in one year. Just wondering if that production increase is possible.

TLS
11-01-2001, 11:31 PM
Yes, much more productive.

48" @ 3mph = approx 1 ac./hr (48" Walkbehind)
48" @ 6mph = approx 2 ac./hr (48" Lazer)
52" @ 6mph = approx 2.5 ac./hr (52" Lazer)
60" @ 6mph = approx 3 ac./hr (60" Lazer)

Plus, ask your kids/wife/girlfriend how much more productive you'll be @ 9 pm at night!

dmk395
11-01-2001, 11:33 PM
But how misleading are those in yards that are only 1/2 acre with mulch beds to go around, guess thats the question.

TLS
11-01-2001, 11:38 PM
Even better! What gear do you mow in with the Metro? 2 or 3, and you leave it there. With the Lazer's you'll be zooming here and there, only slowing to turn and stop. Its so much more productive that you'll hardly use your WB. I only use mine where the 60" will not go (gates, pools, real steep hills) I think with the horsepower increase, they cut better and quicker.

Yeah you are probably thinking....for 8K I can get 2 WB's but then you'll have to hire someone to work that other one! You can almost double your productivity, guaranteed if you go with a 52"!!!

LAWNGODFATHER
11-01-2001, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by TLS
Go with a 52" Lazer Z HP with a 23hp Kawi. You have increased speed (over other HP's) and increased cut, plus you sit. Why are you stuck on a 48"?

Here is a good suggestion, the 52" LazerHP w/ a 23hp Kohler<<<

The reason for the ridder vrs the W/B is:

1: the seat
2: the option of adding a leaf vac
3: option of pulling an aerater
4: able to mount a spreader on it
5: might be able to squease 1 or 2 more in a day
6: wont be as tired at the end of the day from standing

Lets put it this way, I mow a great deal of 1/2 acres lawns with a 60" and can see a big increase in it over a 52" hydro wb. But most of my accounts are well over that size.

A hydro 52" WB with a "Velke" would work fine to, but have to stand.

I think from what I have read you are on the right track. Good luck.

Esby
11-02-2001, 01:38 AM
My main mower used to be a 48" Metro HP until I bought a new Emxark Lazer Z HP 52"/23hp Kaw late this summer. WOW, what a difference, I wish I would have started out with this machine, but just like you, I was in the same position where I couldn't justify the extra amount of money to upgrade to the ZTR. I thought that my Metro was just as productive as a 48" ZTR. I was wrong. Now I really appreciate the ease, comfort and the greatly increased productivity that the Lazer Z offers. At first I was concerned that I wouldn't be able to put the Lazer everywhere the Metro could go, but it turned out to not be a problem at all. The manuvurablity is awesome! I strongly encourage you try and get a Lazer Z HP and go with the 52".....not the 48", with the 48" the deck is barely wider than the rear tires, and you can find yourself "rubbing" trees with the tires when you get too close. My Metro HP only leaves the trailer 3 times a week now, and I am considering trading it in this spring and getting a 60" Lazer Z. I am a VERY happy Exmark owner!