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JimLewis
11-02-2001, 08:39 PM
Well, this is about as crazy of a story as they get buck hang in here with me. I am so excited I can barely type...

So about 3 years ago we did some work for this guy I know in trade for future stock in his company. It was the dead of winter and my guys had nothing to do anyway. Furthermore, there were very minimal costs involved other than labor. So long story short, we did about a $3000 job for this guy and in return, when his new company went public, which was to be later that year, I would get $3K of stock at the IPO.

Well about that time, we began to go into a recession and tech and internet stocks began to plumit. Timing was no longer good for an IPO so we've been waiting ever since. Now 3 years later we still don't have anytihing to show for the work we did.

However, I trusted this guy. We have a lot of history together and I took him as a man of integrity and vision. So I trusted not only that his company would eventually go places and make my stock worth more but I also trusted that he would eventually pay me. All this time, this was done on a handshake. No papers were signed.

Meanwhile he's remained a great maintenance client of ours and has paid his maintenance bills every month for several years.

And all this time my friends and relatives were doubting me. Saying he'd never pay. Saying I got screwed. Saying I should sue him. Telling me how foolish I was for taking such a deal, especially when it's not in writing.

So today I get an email from him updating me on his life and business life. And he said he's sorry that I haven't been able to get any stock yet but would like to extend me an invitation to a private fundraiser dinner in D.C. with all sorts of big wigs, but namely President and Laura Bush. Cost is $1000 per plate. But He's already paid that for me! He still owes us the stock but this is just a kind of "thanks for being patient" thing.

All we got to do is fly there and we'll be dining with the big boys. What a deal! I always tell people that you can still trust people with a handshake.

Oh crap, I gotta go rent a tux! Later!

65hoss
11-02-2001, 08:44 PM
Sometimes you just have to trust and be patient. You did good Jim, can I go?

Way to go.

XOFMOT
11-02-2001, 09:03 PM
Awesume! More power to you! You just never know who, what or where something can happen to you......You did a good deed by TRUSTING someone and in return you got a reward. ENJOY, Have fun, and keep clear of the mail rooms down there!

Randy Scott
11-02-2001, 09:05 PM
It's definately a great opportunity to do something like that and I too would go. Yet he still hasn't payed you, but he has a $1000 for the dinner plate. Maybe he was extended or given those places at the table and is playing it off as a favor to you.
Either way, it would be exciting and I hope all goes well for you and you know him as an individual whereas I don't. Good luck and have fun at the dinner.

stslawncare
11-02-2001, 09:24 PM
all i can say is WOW

JimLewis
11-02-2001, 10:39 PM
Yet he still hasn't payed you, but he has a $1000 for the dinner plate
$2000 actually. He invited me and my wife.
Maybe he was extended or given those places at the table and is playing it off as a favor to you.
He bought them through the company he owns, as a tax write-off I am sure. But he knows a ton of other people he could have given them to. I was just grateful to be chosen.

And although I have faith that I'll see the stock he promised me when his company does go public, I would be happy if this was all I ever got. To me, it's well worth it. You have no idea how big a Bush and GOP supporter I am. An opportunity like this like a lifetime highlight to me.

thelawnguy
11-02-2001, 10:40 PM
So, you do a $3000 job, and for your efforts you get dinner, plus you need to spring for plane ticket and monkey suit? Such a deal ;)

BTW bring a snack as you probably wont get to eat much, usually don't at these things.

JimLewis
11-02-2001, 11:00 PM
So, you do a $3000 job, and for your efforts you get dinner, plus you need to spring for plane ticket and monkey suit? Such a deal No, this is just what I've gotten so far. Eventually I'll get the $3000 in stock and it will be worth a lot more than that one day too. I am confident of that. But even if I didn't I'd be satisfied with what I got. I guess it's difficult to understand for some people. But to me, this is a big thing.

Sheesh? Why do people have to be so pessimistic?

And as for bringing a snack goes, I could care less if they fed me one pea and a chicken strip. I'll be more than elated and honored just to be there.

Randy Scott
11-02-2001, 11:09 PM
That's just it, you know him better than any of us and I guess he is at least making an effort to show some good will and faith to you.
Honestly, I might be a little nervous being in the presence of the President in this particular time that we are having. Still, the Prez, whoever it is, must carry one helluva "aura".

The Good Earth
11-02-2001, 11:59 PM
Man, you really can't beat that. Dinner with our president. Wow. Maybe the idiot will let you put a bid in to mow the little league diamond at the White House. Of course you will have to address the bid to Dick Cheney, 'cause he makes all the decisions.

Also, don't be surprised when dinner is served if they bring out Spaghetti O's with meatballs and Fruit Roll-Ups. Gotta figure that this dinner is just a little break in the Blue's Clue's marathon!! :D

cos
11-03-2001, 12:09 AM
If this guy packs it in, are you the first on the list to get paid? When the company goes public, will you get that stock, or will he think that you were already paid in full with the dinner? He was able to pay for 2- $1000 dinners and not a landscape job that you did? Kinda sounds fishy, but if you think that you may get rightfull payment in the future then hey, cool.

bkd
11-03-2001, 04:24 AM
Wait just a minute "The Good Earth" that is about as disrespectful to the leader of the free world as one can get. Maybe you would like to rethink your response a little bit. This is a trying time our country is going through and even if I did not like the President I would show a little respect. You called my President an idiot. How many votes did you get? Have you ever run for public office? Did you graduate from Harvard? Have you ever owned a huge business such as a professional sports team? Have you ever ran a multi billion dollar war campaign? Have you ever got a coalition of many other countries to support a cause you believed in? If not then I don't think you qualify to call anybody an idiot, especially the President of The United States of America!!!! If you want to call someone an idiot in an open forum such as this, maybe you should start with the guy you see shaving every morning. This is a lawn care forum and one guy has the great fortune through his business of meeting the President and you have to turn things for the worse. :angry:

65hoss
11-03-2001, 06:47 AM
Good earth, you show not only your lack of intelligence but your lack of respect for a fellow LCO. Your thoughts on the President mean nothing, but this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for VERY FEW people in this country. One that you will probably never get. Jim is not the neighborhood lawnboy, he runs a growing legit business and it now has allowed him the chance to meet the President.

grass chaser
11-03-2001, 09:18 AM
Good luck! I hope you enjoy your trip and get to meet the president personally and not just the plate that was paid for. I think it is a great honor that you are receiveing and remember you will be representing all of us. Let us know how it turns out.

Shady Brook
11-03-2001, 09:32 AM
That is great Jim! You will be able to share that memory with your children for years to come, one I do not expect to ever partake of. I hope you get to meet the President, and think who cool it is that this invitation did not come a year or so ago!:eek: I could not make a trip for president Hillery, oh, I mean Bill. :p

Enjoy
Jay

The Good Earth
11-03-2001, 09:41 AM
65hoss,

I think it is great that Mr. Lewis was invited to the White House. That is a once in a lifetime thing. It is unfortunate that you got the impression that I was downing him because of that. In no way did I feel that I was conveying any disrespect to Mr. Lewis. It was an attempt at humor. Lighten up.

BKD,

Wait just a minute "The Good Earth" that is about as disrespectful to the leader of the free world as one can get. Maybe you would like to rethink your response a little bit.

Disrespectful? Disrespectful is stealing an election from the people of our democracy. Disrespectful is running a dormant presidency until something bad happens. What if Sept. 11th never shook down? Would the man still be taking vacations and trying to find him an agenda that would win him popularity points? We can only speculate, but I know what my gut tells me. So, no, I wouldn't like to rethink my response.

How many votes did you get?

None, not a single one. Of course I didn't run.

Have you ever run for public office?

No, I haven't. Is that the only way you can question a leader?

Did you graduate from Harvard?

No, Neither did Bush. He graduated from Yale, and he was was a legacy. In other words, he skated through because of his family name.

Have you ever owned a huge business such as a professional sports team?

I do not own a huge business, but I am indeed a business owner. As for a pro sports team, George Steinbrenner owns a pro sports team. Does that mean I should vote for him? Or how about Al Davis? Heck, Marge Schott would make a fine commander in chief by that line of thought. By the way, when Bush owned the Rangers he traded Sammy Sosa to the Cubs for Bobby Whitt, a pitcher who had absolute nothing left in the tank. Another fine decision.



Have you ever got a coalition of many other countries to support a cause you believed in?

No, sorry, I haven't. I just haven't had that opportunity yet. But I'll keep my fingers crossed, and you let me know if you find any opportunities for me to prove myself to you!! Anyway...

If not then I don't think you qualify to call anybody an idiot, especially the President of The United States of America!!!!

You want to know why I qualify? Because my ancestors have fought for every cause and struggle this country has laid before them. From the American Revolution all the way through till now. My ancestors and myself have supported this country and what it represents: Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The First Amendment affords me the right to question the president. A right that I will continue to exercise until the man proves himself worthy of the office.

If you want to call someone an idiot in an open forum such as this, maybe you should start with the guy you see shaving every morning.

I do that. I have no bigger critic of myself than myself. I make mistakes, we all do. But, conversely, does that give you the right to imply that I am less than mentally capable? Just wondering.

lawrence stone
11-03-2001, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by jimlewis

$2000 actually. He invited me and my wife.

He bought them through the company he owns, as a tax write-off I am sure. .

Why not just send him a new invoice of that landscaping work under that name of that new business?

That would be a write off correct?

Then you could take some of that $3k to the Sizzler with a 8 x 10 glossy of the pres. propped up in the chair next to yours.

kris
11-03-2001, 10:32 AM
Sounds to me that you were willing to take the risk in the first place and you would be out mainly labour costs if it didn't fly....
Nothing wrong with that.

Now you get a once in a lifetime opportunity that you are thrilled about.

This to me sounds like one of those times when I lend money with no expectation of getting it back.... this is the only way I will lend money.

Have a great time! Pass on a hello from Canada .Tell the Pres. he's doing a great job...Would love to hear about it when you get back.

Guido
11-03-2001, 11:09 AM
Have a great time and Say hi to George for me, and tell him I said thanks for the raise! ;)

JimLewis
11-03-2001, 12:49 PM
Sounds to me that you were willing to take the risk in the first place and you would be out mainly labour costs if it didn't fly.... Basically that was it. And it's even better than that. In the winter, we still get paid the same rate from our 150 maintenance accounts as we do the rest of the year. Yet, we don't stop by very often and so we have a lot of free time. But I am commited to giving my winter workers at least 35 hours per week regardless of whether we have work to do. And I can easily afford to do so. So often they are just working on my house, my friend's house, or doing jobs like this. Point is, they would have been busy doing something. I would have had to pay them that week anyway. So why not have them working on a job that could be potentially rewarding.

As for "The Good Earth's" comments, I choose to ignore most of them. I didn't write this to start a political fight and I am not going to participate in one in this forum. But I question his judgement and motives. I had already said I was a big supporter of G.W and considered this an opportunity of a lifetime for me. Yet, he decides to insult the occasion and the guest of honor. I don't understand why someone would want come rain on someone's parade. He claims his comments were meant to be humorous. I guess I saw them more are rude and very sarcastic. And I don't equate that with good humor. I just take it as wanting to start a fight. I can guarantee that if he were making such a post and were getting the chance to Clinton or someone I wouldn't come in and start taking shots. I would have just congratulated him and said to have fun.

cos
11-03-2001, 02:11 PM
Just another Liberal that has been welcome to the off topic forum.


Disrespectful? Disrespectful is stealing an election from the people of our democracy. Disrespectful is running a dormant presidency until something bad happens. What if Sept. 11th never shook down? Would the man still be taking vacations and trying to find him an agenda that would win him popularity points? We can only speculate, but I know what my gut tells me. So, no, I wouldn't like to rethink my response.

Stealing an election you say? Stealing an election to me is trying to recount only three counties that would tip the election in your favor. Stealing to me is trying to disallow the military vote, because you want state rules to overide federal law. Stealing to me is not counting the predominately Cuban section of the county when it has been proclaimed that the Cuban vote belongs to Bush. Stealing to me, is the media calling the state for Gore when all votes have yet to be counted in the pan handle (predomintely Republican Territory).

Dormant Presidency? Where do you live? I watch and listen to all important speeches given. All issues that have been raised by your liberal media have been addressed.

Spet. 11th is suppose uplift a presidency. Don't times like these prove how strong or weak a president really is?


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