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MuskTurfKing
11-05-2001, 02:37 AM
Well, I'm up past midnight, bored, and can't sleep.

I wanted to know what all power equipment, trucks, trailers, how many accounts, how many crews/employees, and how many hours you work a week mowing.

I also want to know what you plan on buying in the next six months:

I'll start us off.

Yard Machines 42" 16.5 HP lawn tractor
Toro Personal Pace 6.0 HP 21"
Ghetto Crapsman trimmer
Ghetto Crapsman hand-held blower.
1994 Ford Ranger, extended cab, 4.0L V-6

I plan on purchasing the following within the next 6 months:

Trailer, 5x10 or larger
Echo PB 650
Echo trimmer (undecided on model)
Toro 44" 15 HP Kohler w/b w/ Toro sulky
Honda 21" Masters (undecided on model)

I am solo, have 7 accounts, and spend about 5-6 hours a week mowing.

Hank

Albemarle Lawn
11-05-2001, 04:54 AM
Do you do the accounts weekly?

If so it seems like 6 hrs to do 7 lawns is not bad time for solo, even if they are small.

With all your spare time I would suggest some intesive marketing, Flyers and a yellow page ad if you can afford it.

Let the customers come in until you are working about 30 hours per week, then buy more equipment.

If you have good credit, you can go into an equipment dealer and get financed for new stuff as you need it. You may want to go ahead and get the new mower and keep the Yard Man for a spare. Being reliable is essential, you cannot give excuses like broken mower very often until a customer leaves.

Keep running the junk blowers, etc. They are cheaper and if they croak you can replace them with good stuff.

Run the Ford ranger into the ground. The 4.0 engine has plenty of power for a single-axle trailer. JUST MAKE SURE IT HAS ELECTRIC BRAKES!!! You will **** a brick if you have to stop fast on a wet road, even a single axle trailer will boss that Ranger around.

Ken

MOW ED
11-05-2001, 07:27 AM
A long , long time ago in an olde land called Hall of Forums there was a feature that was begun, it was called something like
Who, Where and what you started with.
It was getting pretty long and it was an informative section but it was cancelled as the forum got bigger. I hear they are trying to get it going again,

http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?threadid=14018

If you are up late and want to read about everyones stuff, this will be the place.

So just to help you now

2000 Walker 26EFI 42" GHS
1998 Toro 15HP Hydro 44" w/ Proslide
1996 LB 21" mower
Husky 140b backpack
Shindiawa Eb630 backpack
2 crap Homelite ST's that I cant blow up
14' trailer w/front and rear gates
98 Chev Silverado Z-71 350

6 years in bus.
20 to 30 accounts
part time
1 crew of 2 (as of Sept 01)
mowing ave. 12 hrs per week
expanding next spring.

It looks like you are heading in the right direction for replacing equipment and I will give you a little unsolicited advice;
go bigger with the trailer, consider a Z, consider not spending a ton on a trim mower unless you really have alot of trim mowing to do.
It all depends on what you want to do with your business. If you want to stay right where you are and not expand, then you are in decent shape. If you plan on getting even a little busier then you have to upgrade.

The best tool of all is Knowledge and this is where you get it. Keep clicking on the banners to help Chuck pay for the site.
Good Luck.

MIDSOUTH
11-05-2001, 08:58 AM
2001 f250 crewcab ds 4x4
exmark 27hplc 60" with ultravac
scag 25hp 61" turf tiger
encore 34" ztr
jd 21"s
billy goat pro series vac
1 stihl handheld vac
1 stihl 025c
2 red max eb7000 blowers
3 stihl fs83 trimmers
1 stihl fs250 trimmer
1 stihl hlk75 extended hedge trimmer
1 stihl ht75 pole saw
1 stihl fc83 edger
1 stihl hs80 hedge
1 sthil hs45 hedge
1 red max extnded hedge trimmer
20' trailer
16' trailer
lots of other hand tools,edgers,tillers,sweepers and misc junk.

soon to buy more--- 2 more lc exmark 60" (maybe 1 -72" and 1- 60"), more red max blowers and weedeaters, 48" or 36" exmark tthp and some other junk

Richard Martin
11-05-2001, 09:32 AM
1995 Ford F-150 XL 5.0
1997 Pero 6X12 rear gated trailer
2001 Dixie Chopper XW2500
2000 Exmark Metro 36
1993 Lawn Boy Gold Series
2 Shindaiwa T-230 grass trimmers
1 Stihl FC75 stick edger
1 Stihl BR400 backpack blower
1 Echo PB46LN backpack blower
1 Husqvarna chain saw
1 Homelite hedge trimmers
1 9 hp Sears Chipper/Vac

I work around 35 hours a week by myself and service 35 customers. Total investment to date is right around $30,000.

BerksLawn
11-05-2001, 09:56 AM
Theres the thread i started awhile ago http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?threadid=10068

I work with my dad in the summer and days off of school to maintain around 80 accounts with-
-2001 dodge ram 2500 cummins desiel with 7.5 meyer plow
-1996 dodge ram 2500 with meyers 7.5 plow and fisher tailgate spreader
-1 6.5x10ft open trailer with 3ft sides
-1 48" kees beltdrive walk with velkie
-1 36" kees beltdrive walk with bagger
-1 33" cub widecut mower with bagger(backup)
-1 22" murray push
-1 redmax trimmer
-2 srm2100 echo trimmers
-1 poulan pro bp blower
-1 craftsman vac
-2 poulan pro 20" chainsaws
-1 hc1500 echo hedge trimmer
- simplicity singlestage snowblower
- 1 6.5hp yardmachines log splitter
plunty of hand tools and a wheel barrow

gorrell
11-05-2001, 11:00 AM
We're just winding up our 15th year in business as we don't do snow(or windows). Presently maintain 40 or so accounts that average over 200 acres of mowing weekly with commercial accounting for over 75% of that total.

REDMAX: sgcz2500 reciprocating trimmer
bc2200 line trimmer (2)
bc3400 line trimmer
bke2200 backpack trimmer
he2601 stick edger (2)
cht2300l 30" hedge trimmer
HUSQVARNA: 225L line trimmer
322L line trimmer (2)
122L line trimmer
hvt40 hovering trimmer (2)
50 chain saw
132 handheld blower
SHINDAIWA: t-230 line trimmer (5)
MARUYAMA: bc2600 line trimmer
bc2250 line trimmer (2)
ECHO: srs2400 pole trimmer
POULAN PRO: handheld blower
VANDERMOLEN850btx backpack blower
DIXIE CHOPPER: Suburb'n Turb'n (3)
Flatlander
BUNTON: 61" BHR 3 wheeler
LESCO: 52" hydro walkbehind w/velke
YARDMAN: 18" rechargeable push mower
21" 6.5hp self-propelled
20' landscape trailer
6.5 x 10 landscape trailer (2)
95 Chevy K-10 extended cab 4 x 4

65hoss
11-05-2001, 11:21 AM
1998 Ford F150
1990 Chevy 1500
18' trailer
2000 eXmark Lazer HP 52"
2000 eXmark Metro 36"
1999 Encore 48" hydro
1990 Cub Cadet
1981-2 Honda Commercial 21"
Stihl Trimmers
Stihl Chainsaw
Stihl Stick edger
Stihl Backpack blowers
Stihl Hedge trimmers
Stihl Hedge trimmer attachment for trimmer
2000 Pluggr aerator
1984 Troybilt tiller
1963 Ford 2000 tractor
1958 John Deere 420 tractor
seeders
tractor equipment
handtools
powertools
roller

Thats all I can think of right now.

Albemarle Lawn
11-05-2001, 04:37 PM
Trucks:

2000 Mitsubishi-Fuso w/16' landscape body
1989 Suburban+18' Enclosed Trailer and Meyer Plow
1987 Ford Bronco (backup vehicle & runner)
1985 Ford Pickup (backup vehicle)

Mowers:

2001 Gravely 260Z 60" cut Kawasaki 25
2000 Gravely 260Z 72" cut Kohler 25
1999 Gravely 260Z 60" cut Kohler 25

1999 JD HD75 54" cut Hydro Kawasaki 17
1999 JD GS30 36" cut Belt Kohler 13
1998 JD JX85 20" cut Belt Kawasaki 6.75
1997 JD "Yellow Deck" gear Kawasaki 17

Trac Vac for ZTR's 6 HP Kohler

Trimmers:

(4) Redmax 23cc

Backpacks:

(2) Stihl br400

Aerators:

Tow behind junker
Blue-Bird w/ Honda 5HP

Fertilizing:

Befco tow behind spreader
Lesco spreader

Snow:

Meyer power-angle Poly Plow E60 Pump

Handheld Stuff:

Husqvarna Chain Saw
Crapsman handheld blowers
Crapsman hedge clippers
Misc. hand tools


Ken

dlandscaping
11-05-2001, 06:21 PM
trucks
1998 ram 2500 enclosed van (my dads)
soon to be f350 extended 8ft bed with easy dumper and 8 ft fisher plow

trailers
6.5 by 12 ft open with gate and trimmer traps
soon to get 16 ft open or enclosed havent decided.

snow removal
2001 ariens 8/24
1999 sears 10/30
1995 sears 2 cycle
1992 toro 2 cycle
1967 ariens 4 hsp (this baby can throw some snow)
1980 toro 4hsp 21

leaves
2001 10hsp billygoat
2001 stihl 420
2000 stihl 400
sears snapper handhelds
soon to get new echo or redmax bp and 11 hsp honda billygoat

mowing
2000 toro 36 fixed with 12.5 kaw with bagger and doubles
2001 lesco gear 48 with 15 kaw
1995 honda 21 push
1984 toro selfpropelled 21 on 2nd body and 3rd wheels (will not die)
1999 sears push and self propelled (numeous)
2000 echo pas 2601 with edger trimmer and hedge trimmer
2001 kawaski trimmer 26 cc
2001 echo curved shart trimmer
1999 sears curved trimmer
2001 stihl fs45? hedge trimmer

others
bluebird detatcher with 6hsp robin
bluebird aerator with honda eng
2001 lesco rotary commercial spreader
other hand held tools, cutters, sprayers wheelbarrow etc

first yr in business at age 15 will expand next year with liscense. have 20 accounts and about 16 hrs of mowing+ per week with me and helper. planning on exmark 60 or 52 z next year and 44 toro gear or 36 hydro as well as the ford.

mowerguy
11-05-2001, 08:03 PM
I'm a 20 year old college student finishing up my 5th year in business. I have 30 accounts but cut about 40 to 50 due to the fact that all are irrigated and on good fertilization packages


'99 chevy 1500 LS extended cab w/ short box

1 - 14ft tandem axel w/ electric brakes
1 - 36" Scag belt drive
1 - 48" Ferris Dual Drive Hydro
2 - Redmax br 2300 trimmers
1 - Redmax pb 2300 hand blower
1 - Stihl br400 backpack blower
1 - Powertrim edger
1 - snapper 21"(collecting dust)
and various hand tools

Pauls Mowing
11-05-2001, 08:16 PM
'95 Chevy Tahoe
'92 Chevy 1 ton dump truck
'00 DCT 6x10 trailer
'01 DCT 16' t/a trailer
John Deere 955 tractor, diesel,4x4 w/ loader
John Deere 1050 tractor, diesel
Befco 6' Rotary mower, 3 point hitch
John Deere 6.5' flail mower, 3 point hitch
King Kutter 5' rotary mower, 3 point hitch
DR field & brush mower
hand held trimmer

3 accounts: one is a developer with 250+- lots;
3 miles of railroad right of way;
quarry and redi mix/asphalt batch plant mowing; occasional calls for residential brush mowing.

Just my wife and I part time

Paul

GLS
11-05-2001, 08:40 PM
I'm sort of in the same situation as you:

Chevy 1/2 ton 4.1L V6
5'x10' trailer
Craftsman 20hp 48" deck
JD 21" JX-75 w/ 6hp kawa
2 homelite & 1 weed eater trimmers
Craftsman leaf blower/weed eater blower
mccolloch backpack blower
tow behind core aerator
tow behind thatcher
42" lawn sweeper
broadcast spreader w/pneumatic wheels

5-10 accounts
also saving up for better equipment...
lookin into z, bigger trailer, and trimmer/blower.

GLS
11-05-2001, 08:44 PM
suprisingly that crapsman has a pretty good quality of cut:

SJR Lawncare
11-05-2001, 09:31 PM
1999 F-250 4x4 diesel Crew cab
1986 F-350 Stake body dump
1997 Star 12 ft. trailer
1998 Gravely 50 belt drive w/velke & bagger
2001 Scag 52 Hydro w/ velke & bagger
2 Red Max string trimmers
2 Poulan 442 Backpack blowers
1 Red Max hedge trimmer
2 Weed eater hedge trimmers (P.O.S.)
1 Little Wonder Push blower 8hp
1 Billy goat leaf vac truck loader 11hp Mounted on custom trailer
1 Ariens Snow thrower 824
1 Lesco spreader
1 RBG blade grinder
Misc. tools,Etc.

Green Care
11-05-2001, 09:55 PM
Bobcat, 61+54 riders
BLOwer 6 echo /stihl
W/b 52/36 exmarks
Trimmers 3 / echo 2400
Ford / 250
Power prunner / echo
16 ft trailer

jnjnlc
11-05-2001, 10:05 PM
Going into our fifth year of business. The last year was our first full time year. I am the crew. My wife helps as much as she can but cannot run the mowers and trimmers. I service about 50 accounts weekly plus landscaping. I average about 30 hrs per week mowing. I spend the rest of the time doing landscaping projects.

81 Ford F100 PU
6.5 X 12 single axle trailer.
99 Toro 17 HP 44" ZTR
2000 Craftsman 8 HP 33" WB. (Don't knock it. It mows great).
99 Toro 6HP trim mower
2 Husquavarna Trimmers
1 Maruyama BP Blower
Mow n Vac bagger for leaf removal.
Ryobi quick link with several attachments. (mostly for stick edging occasionally)
2000 Lesco 48" tow behind aerator.
Ryan Lawnaire IV Aerator (purchased used this year)
98 Craftsman 20HP Garden tractor (Landscaping use only)
Earthway Spreader

I think that about sums it up.

gogetter
11-06-2001, 12:18 AM
This was my first year, part time, 9 accounts.

'99 Dodge Dakota (V8).
5'x10' open trailer
2001 Exmark Metro 36"
Craftsman 21"
2- Shin T230 string trimmers
1-Shin handheld blower
1- Poulan Pro bp blower
1-Poulan Pro 20" chainsaw
1-Echo 1500 hedge trimmer
1-Tanaka hedge trimmer
1-Husqvarna stick edger
1-wb edger (brand?)
Various tools (wheelbarrel, shovels, rakes, pruners, etc.).

For next year hope to add:

a bunch more customers
48" WB or Stander
hedge trimmer attachment for Shin string trimmer (already on order).
Garden tractor for various uses.
2-snowblowers (1. single stage & 1 two stage).

Scotlawncare
11-06-2001, 06:49 PM
Depends on Who's driving.

Me:
86 Bronco II (NEED TO UPGRADE)

Emp Truck
82 F150 4x4

6x14 tandum trailer
36" Honda geardrive WB
52" Bunton Hydro
22" Craftsman push
Still fs85 weedeater
Ryobi 790r weedeater with several attachments (old Backup)
Echo 4000 Backpack blower

Part time business 12-16 hrs a week. Looking to upgrade alot next year.

bruces
11-06-2001, 08:33 PM
First year, part time

About 6 residential & 6 commercial accounts

Now running:

2001 52" Toro Zmaster, 19hp Kaw

46" DR 46 walk behind

38" Snapper yard cruiser

10 x 6'6" trailer

Shindawa T230 trimmer

Homelite homeowner blower

Ryobi trimmer

1995 Ford F150

Mowingman
11-06-2001, 11:11 PM
Second year fulltime. Me and three seasonal employees. 45 residential, 5 municipal, and 16 commercial accounts totaling 91 properties. Mow 6 days/wk. x 14hr/day during main mowing season. Sit on my butt and relax during off season.
Eqiup. list:
2001 Dodge 2500 diesel pickup
1994 Chevy 3500HD flatbed
1997 Landscape trailer, 6.5x16'
2001 Utility trailer, 7x18'
2001 Grasshopper 428D/72" ZTR
1996 Bobcat 200 /60" ZTR
2001 Toro Z master /62"ZTR
2001 Toro 32" wb
Three JD jx85 21" trim mowers
2001 Ariens 21" trim mower
2000 Billygoat push vac.
1999 Walker MT 20GHS ,42"
2001 Whipper Clipper push edger
Two stick edgers. one Echo/one Stihl
Three Echo 2400 trimmers
Three Echo pb24ln blowers
Stihl longreach hedge trimmer
Echo chainsaw
1954 Huffy 18" trim mower
Buying next year:
One or two 72" ,diesel, midmount ztr's

little green guy
11-07-2001, 07:59 PM
I currently run:

Truck
- 94' chevy k3500 silverado pickup w/8' meyer
Trailers
- 6.5'x16' open trailer
- 6.5'x12' open trailre
Mowers
- 60" lazer 23 hp lc
- (2) 52" scag hydro
- 36" exmark belt drive
Blowers
- (2) 8 hp giant vac push
- redmax eb6200
- redmax eb7000
- sthil br400
Trimmers
- (2) echo srm 2400
- redmax 23cc
- echo hedge trimmer
also a ton of hand tools (sholves, rakes...) power tools and a bunch of other stuff that i can't think of right now.


Planning to Buy:
- used f350 or f450 mason or grain body dump (next spring)
- 02' chevy 2500hd duramax desiel x-cab pickup
(next summer/fall ,personal truck)
- 20' enclosed trailer (spring)
- dump trailer (used from a buddy, if he gives it to me cheap)

All the stuff pretty much depends on the eceonomy next year, but I'm atleast going to defintly buy one of the two trucks, probly the new pickup


Right know we cut about 30 lawns plus landscaping projests. I want to get up to about 50 lawns for next year and more commercial stuff too. I have 2 guys that work for me part time. I also work with another larger company a little that I have been with part time for 4 years, i am good friends with the owner and keep my equipment at thier shop, i also rent larger equipment from them when i need it. oh yah i also go to school till 11am.

Jim White
11-07-2001, 10:00 PM
This is my 7 th. and last year as a part time solo. My full time job plus family obligations are forcing me to retire from this biz for the time being. I currently service 10 accounts which take me about 8 hours.

For equipment I run:
2001 GMC 2500hd crew cab desiel
6x12 Bri-mar Dump trailer with landscape gate
2000 - Bobcat 200 61" ztr with Peco Vac system
Red-max eb-7000 backpack blower
Shin- 230 trimer
Billy goat - push blower (for Leaves)
Ryobi - stick edger (someone gave it to me)
snapper 21 push mower (never use it)

I've still got all the stuff I started out with, but it pretty much just collects dust, The stuff I listed is the working equipment.

accuratelawn
11-07-2001, 10:31 PM
F-350
16' open trailer
60" Lazer
48" Walker GHs
52" Great Dane walk behing with sulkie
48" Kees walk back up
push mower....no way
Shindaiwa, Echo, Kawasaki hand helds
Permagreen ride on Spreader/Sprayer
120 accounts
Me + one
50 hours per week

wildbilly1113
01-17-2002, 10:40 PM
86 gmc 2500
59 ford dump
jd 310 backhoe
jd 665 z-trak
cub cadet w-b 48 hydro
36 metro hp
6 ass. lawn tractors
stihl trimmer echo trimmer
ass. trimmers
stihl hedge trimmers 2 crapsman hedge trimmers
echo 650 blower
husky 185t b-p blower
ass. hand blowers
12x7 open trailor

5 years fulltime ,45 acc. solo ,mostly res. ,needmore comm. excavate sometimes.

wants 60 lazer, echo or stihl with attachments
16 foot trailor

King City Lawns
01-20-2002, 05:25 PM
This will be my 3rd year. I have about 45 accounts, about 50/50 residential/ commercial. I carry on average 2 employees in busy season. On top of lawn contracts we do a fare amount of bush hogging. we also do landscaping and lawn establishment. no snow yet..

2000 3/4 ton gmc 4x4
16x6.5 open landscape trailer
18x6.5 open landscape trailer
2001 725 grasshopper
1998 jd belt drive w/b
2 stihl 085 trimmers
1 stihl 072 trimmer
stihl 025 chain saw
stihl 440 back pack blower
shindwaia back pack blower
stihl hedge trimmers
lawn boy trim mowers
1978 ford 3600 tractor
bush hog
woods finish mower
6 ft straight blade
6 ft box blade
6ft pulverizer
3 pt post hole digger
too many hand tools to list
I really hope to add another truck this year for me to do landscaping from.
I still work full time as a supervisor at a large man. plant so I have to rely heavily on my employees to be good to me and my cust. hope to grow to about 70 cust this year.

Live2ride
01-20-2002, 08:01 PM
Currently run a 21" murray mower, red flyer wagon, manual grass clippers, pull it all wit my 24" huffy. I am your biggest nightmare....
Sorry, couldn't help it....bored here too.

jack D.
01-20-2002, 11:02 PM
Live2ride,
Are you running the 3' by 1.5' flyer? How are the wheel axles holding up? Try a garage sale Toro instead of the Murray. The red & red looks real snappy.

Live2ride
01-21-2002, 11:36 AM
Jack D.
Thanks for the advice. Toro red would look good. Also on the wagon(trailer) have had to beef up the axles to handle the load. Hope to get another wagon this year to pull grass clippings in.
Want to mount a blade on front of bike to push snow with next year. Will keep u updated thanks.!!:cool:

lawnkid
01-21-2002, 02:52 PM
I have been in business on my street for about 2 years and I have 17 accounts, 3 new this past week.I work mainly on weekends and occasionaly during the week because I am a sophmore in High School.

Equipment I run:
(1) 1997 Scag 52" Hydro/w velkie and bagger
(1) 2000 Tanaka TBC-2510 trimmer
(1) 1999 Echo PB-602 bp blower
(1) 2000 Stihl HS-80 hedge trimmer

Equipment soon to be bought:
(2) Echo or Stihl PB602's or BR400's
(1) Tanaka TBC-3010
(1) Little Wonder 8hp blower
1990-1991 Chevyy or GMC truck with plow

rodfather
01-21-2002, 03:27 PM
TRUCKS
1996 F-350 4X4 7.3 Diesel
1986 C-20 4X4 6.2 Diesel (new motor and tranny)

TRAILERS
2 Pequea, 7000GVW 8X18 open
1 homemade 6.5X16 open

MOWERS
2 Toro Groundsmaster, 72", 4-wheel drive
2 Ferris 61" WBs
1 Ferris 52"WB
2 Ariens 21" WB
Trac Vac Collection System for all mowers

NUMBER OF ACCCOUNTS
100 or so

OTHER EQUIPMENT
You name, we got it...leaf blowers, trimmers, hedge clippers, backbacks, edgers, dethatchers, aerators, fertilizer spreaders, hand tools, etc.

What I want to know is what LAWNGODFATHER has??? If I remember right, he has around 500 accounts!!!

Mark
01-21-2002, 08:19 PM
1999 2500 Silverado 1985 1500 Silverado-new Jasper 350 1-12x6.5 hogwiled tralior 1-16x6.5 tandem tralior/elec-brakes 2000-Toro Z-Master 62" 25hp 1994 52" Snapper walkbehind 2002 52" Scag SWZU only 1hr 2000 21" Toro Proline/2 cycle trim 1998 Billygoat chip/vac 2-echo 260 trimmers 1-shindiawa 630 backpack 1-echo pb-601 backpack 1-shindiawa T-260 trimmer lots of hand tools,pruners,drop spreader, crapsman dethatcher,and core plug. Rakes,shovels,posthole digger, stihl chain saw,air tanks and echo stick edger. echo 1500 shrub trimmers BG218 blade grinder. gota go dinner time Marks Mowing Service

dlandscaping
01-21-2002, 08:36 PM
i must add to my list for right now, i have a 1995 f250 extended cab, extended bed V8 and 8ft plow. also 3 toro s260 2 cycle snowblowers and a wacker honda engine compactor. i went to look at the new toro collection systems and i want one of those z's or a hydro walkbehind. i also have a parking lot job lined up for next year and want to add either a toro tractor with snowblower or a small skidsteer like a bobcat 553. we ll see what i get come april