View Full Version : Corn gluten meal and feather meal, only options?
lawncuttinfoo
02-13-2008, 08:42 PM
I need some food to add to my program between the monthly compost tea applications right?
According to Paul Tukey's book the only natural food products with zero phosphorous are corn gluten meal and feather meal. And in MN it is illegal to apply phosphorous without a test showing a deficiency. So for lawns that have adequate P, it seems that these 2 products are my only options to include in my program to complement the compost tea, correct?
Gerry Miller
02-13-2008, 09:27 PM
I need some food to add to my program between the monthly compost tea applications right?
According to Paul Tukey's book the only natural food products with zero phosphorous are corn gluten meal and feather meal. And in MN it is illegal to apply phosphorous without a test showing a deficiency. So for lawns that have adequate P, it seems that these 2 products are my only options to include in my program to complement the compost tea, correct?
Feather meal is high in protein, but it takes forever to be broken down by the micro herd. It won't fill the need of protein needed now for the them. Perhaps you can find corn meal as an alternative. While being on the low end of crude protein content, it also gives you natural disease control.
"Dr. Joe McFarland and his staff at the A&M Research Station in Stephenville discovered, that cornmeal is effective at controlling fungal diseases on peanuts. I started playing with it and discovered that it is effective on brown patch in St. Augustine and damping off in seedlings. Used at about 20 lbs./1,000 sq. ft. per surface area of soil. Cornmeal will help control all diseases on photinia, Indian hawthorn, roses, fruit trees, turf and seed flats. Horticultural cornmeal is even better because it is the concentrated outer edge of the corn kernel and it’s available in large bags at many of the garden centers and feed stores that sell the organic products."
http://www.dirtdoctor.com/view_question.php?id=1372
As far as Phosphorus goes:
Soybean Meal Phosphorus 0.65 %
Corn Gluten Meal Phosphorus 00.5 %
Alfalfa pellets Phosphorus 0.23%
Feather Meal Phosphorus 0.31 %
Cottonseed Meal Phosphorus 1.10 %
As you can see, they all contain some Phosphorus.
NattyLawn
02-14-2008, 09:26 AM
It's tough to find no P ferts.
McGeary's has a 6-0-4 "low P fert". Low P doesn't mean no P. The link has the label for the 8-1-1 not the 6-0-4. You might want to contact them.
http://www.mcgearyorganics.com/Fertilizer/fertilizerIndex.htm
North Country Organics has a 6-0-6 Natural No Phos
Scroll down to check the description:
http://www.norganics.com/descript.html
I know these are blended ferts and will cost you, and I in no way have any ties to either company.
ICT Bill
02-14-2008, 12:20 PM
It is the claim on the bag of fertilizer that will make the difference to you as far as regulations. If the bag claims zero phophorous then you can use it. All fertilizers have to submit their label and a copy of the macro/micro nutrient analysis. a percentage of a percent is not considered a whole number and therefore can not be claimed as a nutrient.
although the fert may contain .95 phosphorous, it can not be claimed on the label and will be considered a zero phosphorous fert.
I am not sure what the law is with meals that do not claim to be a fertilizer but animal feed. It is all about what the product claims to the Deptartment of Ag
green_mark
02-14-2008, 02:30 PM
We have a locally manufactured product for you that is an 8-0-5 liquid.
Nice slow growth and Fantastic Green
Call me at 651-295-8388
DUSTYCEDAR
02-14-2008, 02:49 PM
the feed ferts are a grey area
i want to know what the big box stores will do with what they sell to home owners
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