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JML
02-09-2000, 05:29 PM
I was just wondering what is one of the best enclosed trailers? thanks

curlawngreen
02-09-2000, 05:42 PM
Hallmark

AB Lawn Care
02-09-2000, 06:03 PM
I have never owned a inclosed traler but here are some makers.<p>:Halmark<br>I could not find a number or address.<p><br>:U.S Cargo<br>2211 W. Wilden Ave.<br>Goshen, IN 46525<br>(219)534-9906<p>:Wells Cargo<br>They have alot of dealers so I will give you their toll-free number:1-800-348-7553<p>:United Expressline Transporters<br>19985 CR 8 Bristol, IN 46507<p>I have brouchures on these companys trailers and by looking at the brochures I like Wells Cargo the best the have hundreds of trailers to choose from.Give them a call and ask for a brochure.<p>I hope this helped you out!<p>from:Adam<br>AB Lawn Care

mountain man
02-09-2000, 06:56 PM
I bought a Pace last year and have been very happy with it. The big question in my opinion is what your goal for the trailer is. I feel that for maintenance I have gotten more value out of my open trailers, but before I had a shop and had little equipment it was nice to have everything in one place that could be locked up.

Lazer
02-09-2000, 08:58 PM
We've owned Hallmark and Doolittle. Satisfied with both. I think I'd recommend Hallmark because they're more popular. Wells Cargo has more options for landscapers, though.

ashlandscaping
02-09-2000, 09:38 PM
Here in Chicago area Wells Cargo is the most common one used I have 2 wells and one hallmark. Both are great trailers. If I was going to go buy a new one right now I would buy a Hallmark just for the reason being its cheaper by $ 1000 then Wells Cargo. Frames are the same biult mostly the same just Wells has more of a name here then Hallmark. I know at least 4 guys who use Hallmarks and have only good things to say. It all depends on area and what your needs are. Heck Hallmark might be higher where you are.

HOMER
02-10-2000, 06:01 AM
While we're on the subject, approximately how much would a 20' enclosed cost, and how much would it weigh? How wide are they inside to inside and how well does the ramp hold up. I don't know anybody that has one so I can't ask.<p>Homer

mountain man
02-10-2000, 07:22 AM
I paid $3200 for my 12' enclosed Pace a year ago. It is only a single axle. A 20' will need dual axle and brakes which will add considerably to the price. It would probably need channel vs angle iron which adds additional weight and cost. You would also need to consider if you have the right truck to pull a loaded trailer of that size. Another big problem I forsee is the hassle of driving a big trailer in the city and in tight neighborhoods.

Lazer
02-10-2000, 09:27 AM
Homer,<br>Our most recent Hallmark was 18' tandem, double axle brakes. Nice ramp door. PLYWOOD floor, not 2x6 like you need for larger riders. .024 aluminum sides, which wrinkle a little more than our .030 20' one.<p>Anyway it was $3895.00.

fireball
02-11-2000, 06:16 AM
I think I have owned them all. There is no best trailer just like there is no best truck. Once you buy one, then suddenly the hindsight takes over, if I had only bought an extra two feet longer I coulda really made money. You have to analyse how you want to arrange your equipment on the trailer. always have a side entrance door because what you need will always be in front of the trailer. we always allow the first four feet of the trailer to be storage bins, worktable, generator, refrigrator, and personal clothes storage. the real advantage to the enclosed trailer is that you can drop it onsite and that crew can work there without a truck. the truck and the foreman can then go back and get another crew and take them to another site. its possible to run four crews with one truck. it makes for a long day for the foreman. each trailer has a cell phone for emergency calls. I suggest that you go to a regional large car show (we have Carlile in PA)and you will see every enclosed trailer known to mankind. Talk to the owners and find out all the plus and minus of each trailer. Pay attention to the small things such as square doors and how hinges are attached or how Lazer replied about wrinkles on the skins. keep in mind that you will use the trailer more in one day then some of these car shows use in a whole year. Ramp doors on a whole have been trouble free but remember picking up an eight foot door 15 times a day becomes a real chore. everyone attempts to solve the problem by using all different contraptions to raise the doors and then the problems start to develop. always pay attention to tire size and brakes. Mobile home axels with non standard brake shoes will cause you headaches every time. those DOT roadside inspections will kill you. And those 6x23.50 tires that looked so beefy when you bought the trailer don't do you any good when you have two blowouts at 9pm at night and the only tire dealer that stocks that tire is 800 miles away. Stick to 15 inch tires. Haulmark and Pace are probably the best trailers for the buck. Classic and Tuflite are better but cost a lot more. Always consider maintenance when buying trailers

ashlandscaping
02-12-2000, 08:58 PM
Answer the 20 ft.? Hallmark is $ 4600 with brakes tandem axle side door ramp door. Wells cargo was $ 6000 with same stuff. That was what I was quoted a month ago. In Chicago area. I have a 18 ft. it is not that bad to pull have had it behind a 1/2 ton truck and pulled just fine. I have driven with up to 28 ft trailers. Now that is a BIT-H in city traffic. But as far as 20 goes they are not that bad. And yes you will always wish you had 2 more ft. No matter how big it is. As far as ramp doors go a close freind owns a paving co. He has a 14 ft Pace trailer that is 7ft tall. They drive a 2 ton roller full of water up and down that ramp each day. Also a guy has a wells Cargo 7 ft tall and he put a trencher up and down that ramp every day no problems. the ramps hold up. Only problem is when you buy that taller trailer with the long ramp door it weights more which by the end of the day weights even more. OH and if you buy a enclosed keep a eye on the lift cable and if they break replace them. It makes a big diff. I once tried to save a couploe bucks and not replace the cable. After haveing to work with the crew one day I had the cables installed the next day. By the end of the day that door felt like 200 pds. and I not a small guy. But I have a taller trailer as well and the door is opend and closed 70 times a day.

snake1040
02-13-2000, 10:15 PM
Recently looking into buying an enclosed trailer I have looked at just about every brand the only thing I came up with is to look for a one peice roof so it don't leak, torsion axles instead of leaf springs, and the frame work. Depending on the area of country you might want to see if the frame is powder coated or painted to help stop rust. Cherokee, Wells cargo (pricy), and predator eagle are the ones I thought were pretty good from what I saw that we have down here.

rogdogg
10-30-2006, 08:29 PM
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MOW PRO LAWN SERVICE
10-30-2006, 08:53 PM
We run two haulmarks bought em new no problems hindsight none we thought it all out before i purchased.

MOW PRO LAWN SERVICE
10-30-2006, 08:55 PM
The only thing is if i was running 20 feet and longer i would go with a 5th wheel for turning,or a junky enclosed for beating and banging but you don't look cool.

teamoneoutdoors
10-30-2006, 09:03 PM
We have owned Featherlite, Pace, Haulmark, etc.

If your budget can afford it, purchase a Featherlite. Saves on weight and holds value. If not a Featherlite, many of the other manufacturers have great trailers. Make sure you have the Dexter torsion axles and that your walls have substantial plywood thickness for mounting racks, etc for equipment.

If you can specify tire size, get the larger 16" tires. They hold up much better. If you must use 15" tires, maintain your tire air pressure and avoid scrubbing your tires to prevent the inside trend from premature failure.

Good Luck!

MOW PRO LAWN SERVICE
10-30-2006, 09:27 PM
I looked at feather lite the only aluminum part is the tongue there is no way i am trusting a aluminum tongue didn't add up for much on saving weight, and the extra price for a feather lite was to high,by the way i have purchased a feartherlite flatbed and broke the tongue clean off you talk about a bad day they fixed it after 6 months.

P & L Turf
10-30-2006, 09:46 PM
I've had two haulmarks, one Pace,and one Classic. All three had fallen apart within one year. That is sidewalls on the outside coming apart, rusting out on the bottoms, equipment falling through the floor. You name it it's happened here. These trailers see no salt and very little dirt and get cleaned on a weekly basis. The Pace was the only company willing to take care of the problem,and they did. I might add that they did a very good job taking care of the problem as well. So far nothing has gone wrong.......Yet.

MOW PRO LAWN SERVICE
10-30-2006, 10:47 PM
My haulmarks have black under coating on the bottom no rust cept a spot or two it's common.

teamoneoutdoors
10-31-2006, 06:42 AM
Sorry Mow Pro to hear about your bad experience. I have owned 4 Featherlites in the past. Featherlite in fact makes two trailers; an all aluminum with a steel tongue and an all steel trailer usually identified by the STL markings. In my experience the brackets holding the axles and the tonques have been the only parts of the trailer that are steel.

On your sidewalls you want to get the thickest skins possible. This is usually standard on your Thrifty(Haulmark) and Pace(Cargo).

MOW PRO LAWN SERVICE
10-31-2006, 03:30 PM
Okay don't laugh,if i was serious about a big trailer say a 20 footer or larger i would look into a fl horse trailer with a 5th wheel for turning man they look pretty cool,plenty of head room and light, big enough to put two z's and two wb in.