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mudwisr2
02-20-2008, 08:53 AM
Which is more efficient in your opinion? Any comments also.

Raven386
02-20-2008, 09:43 AM
Although it would be easier having a cab-over with landscape body. not having to worry about the trailer and all. but were do you put debris? that means you have to have another vehicle to haul leaves away during fall clean-ups. So IMO a truck and trailer would be better. There has been quite a few times we have been mowing and someone asked us to take away a pile of sticks or a branch etc. we always have the bed of the truck to load up and still have the equipment seperate on the trailer.

EA Quinn
02-20-2008, 09:50 AM
we just bit the bullet and placed an order for an 08 isuzu 14,500lb with a 22 foot landscape body on the back. We dont worry about hauling debris because we have other trucks for that. We felt this was the way to go with DOT these days cracking down, and having our h2b guys driving, eliminating a trailer should solve a lot of problems. it seems that our new crew leaders never like towing a trailer so this should solve the problem. Before we towing a 24 foot big tex open trailer behind a f350 which really probably is in the CDL class or just on the line. Now we will be totally legit and dont have to worry about training people to tow trailers.

ponyboy
02-20-2008, 09:52 AM
we run a cab over and 2 dumps w enclosed trailers switching over to all cab over in the next two years its not a problem because we have other crews that do hedges trimming and as far a clean ups most go into woods but yes we have dump trucks that will take debris a way so and we do not catch much grass. so it is a personal choice of your needs. you could get a slt with a dump behind the cab but they are expensive

Jpocket
02-20-2008, 09:53 AM
^^^^Basically what he said. With a separate truck and trailer you are way more versital. You can do anything you want in a pick-up, use it as a daily driver it you want. A cab-over is a ONE purpose truck and to me doesn't have enough uses to be sensible. If your not mowing the truck might be useless

Raven386
02-20-2008, 09:58 AM
better get the plows back out! i heard Friday 2-4.

well, a cab-over is fine for someone who has other vehicles and employees to drive the other truck. in that circumstance it would be great. less to worry about, no employees with trailers on the road. in my circumstance, i work with my buddy and he is talking about getting in the hardscaping now so i will be looking for help if he does. but anyways I would have to bring one truck to the site, go back home and get dump truck then go back and get the cab-over. so in the circumstance of having more than 1employee a cab-over would be a great asset.

Raven386
02-20-2008, 09:59 AM
If you had a lawn maintenance crew going, a cab-over would be perfect!

GreenSouth Landscapes
02-20-2008, 07:53 PM
cab over all the way. I do about 13 lawns a day and i can say that even though we have to pick up some debris, it is still very usable with debris in the front of the bed and mowers pulled in behind it. I rarely have enough debris on the truck where i can't still function for the rest of the day.

GreenSouth Landscapes
02-20-2008, 07:54 PM
PS i have a NPR cab over with 14' landscape body that i might sell.

ACE
02-20-2008, 08:21 PM
I bought a cab over w/box at the end of last year. Its really great for just cutting. Down side fuel mileage only about 10. Next fall I may pull a small trailer just for leaves and debris.

Tadams
02-20-2008, 08:32 PM
Cab-over with 16' box body. The few yards that we do bag, the clippings go on the dovetail in bags. You can put a lot of limbs, sticks, hedge clippings, and trash in a box with 2 lazers and a walkbehind.

gravedigger5
02-20-2008, 09:13 PM
have been looking at cab overs myself. have F450 now with deuce dump and 18 foot trailer. Hauls a lot but can be a big pain sometimes. considering cab over with switch & go bodies. (box, dump and spray bodies)

mudwisr2
02-21-2008, 09:19 AM
I run a 1 ton with an 18' trailer now. The guy I worked for in college ran 2 NPR's, a 450, and a Dodge 3500. The NPR's were for maintenance, mostly. This worked REALLY well. I am hoping to keep my 3500 and 18' setup for landscaping and such and run NPR's for maintenance (in the future).
Keep the good info coming!

Jusmowin
02-21-2008, 10:24 AM
Well as for now I sticking with my old 3/4 ton and my 6x14 trailer for now as I not real sure how active Ill be in this biz for the next couple years do to health ploblems. However, Ive never have had a problem with a truck and trailer setup and I could always haul what I wanted. So for my needs this has always worked for me.

HazellLawnCare
02-21-2008, 10:47 AM
Anyone have any pictures of their trucks with landscaper bodies on them? I have been thinking one of those bodies would be nice to have. How about putting one on a F450 or the new Dodge chassis cab.

HazellLawnCare
02-21-2008, 11:08 AM
Also what brands are the beds on these trucks.

humble1
02-21-2008, 11:49 AM
cab over is great as long as you dont crash into a pole or head on. you are all done, fll size dump truck ill take my chances w/ the head on crash.

LawnGuy73
02-21-2008, 02:22 PM
We have to run pick ups because we do snow removal as well as lawn care.

GreenSouth Landscapes
02-21-2008, 06:12 PM
i'll post pics of my set ups soon!

LLandscaping
02-21-2008, 09:00 PM
We use a Hino with a 16ft box and dovetail for our maintenance crew. It is in the same class as the Npr but has a conventional cab. It is alot easier to drive than the truck and 16ft trailer we were using. Especially in city drive where the roads are tight and parking is limited.

GreenSouth Landscapes
02-21-2008, 09:36 PM
i'll have pics of my super lawn truck as soon as it is out of paint and vinyl. I got a deal and a half on it. We have been using nprs for years but finally decided i wanted something i could advertise with. I got one of Tony Bass' original SLT's.

Lawnworks
02-21-2008, 10:28 PM
i'll have pics of my super lawn truck as soon as it is out of paint and vinyl. I got a deal and a half on it. We have been using nprs for years but finally decided i wanted something i could advertise with. I got one of Tony Bass' original SLT's.

What year? How much did you give for it? miles?

HazellLawnCare
02-24-2008, 01:48 PM
Still waiting for pictures and info

EA Quinn
02-25-2008, 06:02 PM
ill have pics of our truck in a about 6 weeks as soon as supreme puts the body on. The truck is in and going to paint in the next few weeks.

Marek
02-25-2008, 07:59 PM
Did you do an enclosed ? If so what size and what options?

EA Quinn
02-25-2008, 08:08 PM
im having supreme put a 22 foot open beavertail landscape body on the truck. We wanted an open truck so our planting crew can use it to put trees on when they go down state on bigger jobs.

Marek
02-25-2008, 09:26 PM
22' total ? If so what is the flat area?

GroundEffects125
02-25-2008, 09:40 PM
I just got a Isuzu npr and i love it. i was wondering green south pm me on the information on the 14ft that u might be selling.. thanks

mudwisr2
03-04-2008, 09:41 AM
I am starting to think that my 1 ton is a bit overkill and more expensive to maintain. The 3/4 ton with some air bags might be what I need. May be a truck for sale soon :)

EA Quinn
03-04-2008, 10:51 AM
22' total ? If so what is the flat area?

Flatdeck will be 18' plus 4' of dovetail. We currently tow a 24' big tex open trailer, and we are trying to get something a little smaller. obviously this will be a long wheelbase truck, but will be a lot easier to handle then towing a 24 foot trailer with a f350.