Went and looked at skids today.

[cat2]

Looked at a gehl 5640 turbo. It was ok but i wasn't hooked on it. And a case 430. I like the case more. Some of the filters seem to be hard to get to. The cab isn't to wide, but its not too bad. And i looked at a john deere CTL 322 for the heck of it. Nice machine. Out of those i looked at today i would have to say deere is the best. But remember i just looked i didn't drive any. i want to see what bobcat will come out with. I just don't feel right in the gehl or case.

[cat2]

Another thing on the case is it felt like there was so much machine behind you, it seems like when you are close to a wall or something you would have a better chance of hitting it.

[bobcat_ron]

Another thing on the case is it felt like there was so much machine behind you, it seems like when you are close to a wall or something you would have a better chance of hitting it.

I get the same feeling too with Deere's and Cases all the time, even though their lengths are the same as Cat and Bobcat's standards.

[cat2]

I get the same feeling too with Deere's and Cases all the time, even though their lengths are the same as Cat and Bobcat's standards.





I know i hate that.



wow we agree on something:cool2:

[bobcat_ron]

Only Tak's and some of the first Cats were longer than the industry standards, not much, maybe 6-8" or so.

[BIGBEN2004]

The old ASV 4800's had to be the worst. They had the entire engine behind where the loader arms where hooked to the machine. Also the big New Hollands have a long back end on them and allot of times they bump things when you turn.

[mrsops]

i would never buy a deere or new holland i just feel the back of the machine is to big feel like im going to hit something all the time i know how you guys feel on that. case you cant see anything out of it i cant see how people buy that machine they must be working in a open field.. for what i do alot of tight work i feel 100% bobcats have the best visability then any other machine

[KPS]

Yeah mrsops i have operated many skids and Bobcat is one of the best for vis. We checked out a ct 322 about a month ago and i could not get out fast enough. I banged my shin into the frame just trying to get in the thing, and im only 5'8" 160lbs:hammerhead:. The overhead visibility is absolutely pathetic and the giant loader arms are a little overkill ion my oipinion. the front door glass is far to small and close to your face, someone likened the cab to gatting in and out of a bath tub and i have to agree. The heater was amazing and power galore. With a cab overhaul i think it could be a real contender in the ctl market.

[ksss]

i would never buy a deere or new holland i just feel the back of the machine is to big feel like im going to hit something all the time i know how you guys feel on that. case you cant see anything out of it i cant see how people buy that machine they must be working in a open field.. for what i do alot of tight work i feel 100% bobcats have the best visability then any other machine


Try this excersise. Sit in a CASE and a Bobcat and have someone set cones (both standard and candles) around the machine with comparable machines with the loader arms in the same position. I have done it. You should try it. Then talk about what you really know, verse talking about what you don't.:waving:

[mrsops]

Try this excersise. Sit in a CASE and a Bobcat and have someone set cones (both standard and candles) around the machine with comparable machines with the loader arms in the same position. I have done it. You should try it. Then talk about what you really know, verse talking about what you don't.:waving:

im sure you have done it just like i have sat in both machines i dont need to set up potatoes lol or whatever your telling me to set up i would never buy a case but for you they must work :hammerhead:

[KPS]

I have not run a newer case but if the ctl's weighed a little less we would have looked into getting one. They must make great machines to still be putting R&D into improving their models. The high HP numbers sure make them attractive for doing heavy bulk work. Different strokes for different Folks. Run what you like best.:drinkup:

[BIGBEN2004]

On my parents farm we run a Case 95XT and I feel it has great visibility. It is used in a shed moving big and small square bales around and it is in a tight area. We have never hit anything and I can see everything around me when I sit in it. Now as far as the cone test is concerned then compare all models to a Hew Holland. Once you lift the loader arms up a little you can see completely behind the rear tires and that is a important place since that is where you tend to back over things the most.

[cat2]

Try this excersise. Sit in a CASE and a Bobcat and have someone set cones (both standard and candles) around the machine with comparable machines with the loader arms in the same position. I have done it. You should try it. Then talk about what you really know, verse talking about what you don't.:waving:





So what have you come up with?

[ksss]

So what have you come up with?


I found very little difference. The view out the back on the CASE was much better. I was also able to see the back of the tires easier on the CASE machine (440 vs 220). Overall, there is was not a lot of difference except in the direct back of the machine. Certainly not enough to declare one make significantly better than the other. The point was if you claim that the BC is better to see out of than a CASE you have not really done any homework on it.

[dozerman21]

Visibility also has a lot of preferance involved. Everybody operates differently. Some guys like to hug the door, some lean back... Everybody is also built different. What's comfortable to Jimbo might not be to Jumbo. Different body types will give different visibility.

Most if not all machines have a restricted spot somewhere. I guess it comes down to your operating styles and where you look when turning and backing up as to which machine will give the best visibility to you.