Nilsson Associates

[pax3]

I get information from Nilsson Associates Green Industry Consultants about once or twice a year. They've got several books out for lawn care companies. Some include maintenace estimating, pricing services, maximizing mowing profits, and motivating employees. They also have something called the Labor Time Data Handbook which contains labor hours for lots of landscape and lawn maintenance jobs. Just wondering if anyone else gets this information, and if these books would be a waste of money.

[Scraper]

ohoh...this should be interesting...LOL

for this one you might have wanted to do a search....rumor has it if you twist them up tight they do wonders for starting fires.

[pax3]

That's all I needed to know. I need to burn some brush today anyway. This mail will be the first thing that goes in it.

[Scraper]

Just so the mods know...I have seen them...not all hearsay...;)

[LoneStarLawn]

Since Phil is not a sponser nor a manufactorer and the fact that he left in disgust I don't think the mods mind.

There are some threads that go into detail about how the books workout. Some members like them some don't. Do a search and check those threads out.

[Scraper]

I didn't think so Alan, but nonethelesss didn't want to break the rules for the whiners out there. ;)

[Evan528]

Lets just say Phil Nilsson is a man that was truly convinced he had a robot named "a-1" that used to anser Lawnsite posts for him when he wasnt available! Enough said! :)

[MOW ED]

Oh boy did that name and nickname jar up some memories.

Anyone want to go on a cruise???:blob2: :blob2: :blob2:

[JJ Lawn]

Shhhhssssssssss,

Ya'll be quiet.... keep talking about him and he just might show back up.

But if he does, just bring back the most infamous threads of all time..... you know, the one about hiding in the bushes. :)

Jim

[KirbysLawn]

LMAO!! PHil is active on another forum, he is constantly "talking to himself". It's totally amazing, he will post a topic and then answer his own questions. In my opinon if he knows all of what he thinks he knows why doesn't he start his own LCO and take over the LCO world?

[pax3]

Didn't know I would open up a can of worms. I'm kind of glad I don't know what the heck you guys are talking about. I'll just do my searches and try not to say anything to controversial.

[stslawncare]

isnt he still a member? sure does bring back memories!!!!

[JJ Lawn]

Originally posted by stslawncare
isnt he still a member? sure does bring back memories!!!!


Remember this? :)


quote
I disconnected with LawnSite because the posts were getting out of hand. A post about "Peein in the bushes"? Give me a break. I don't want my name on a chat board that allows low life activity. end quote

Jim


Disclaimer: I got more........

[SprinklerGuy]

Disclaimer:
I go to both boards, the one he is on most and this one. I like them both, equally most of the time.
I went round and round with him and he has posted useful info sometimes, about 50% of the time though he was trying to sell something. Hate that.
I think consultants have their place in this business,but he is a little PUSHY.
I haven't searched for his posts here yet........sounds like there could be some humour there though!

[groundsguy1970]

http://lawnsite.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88&highlight=Peein+in+the+bushes



I think this is the one?

[SprinklerGuy]

Thanks groundsguy, I'm glad to have found his post.....

I found it interesting that he even posted a reply to that thread at first. What made him change his mind about the topic I wonder? He is a strange bird.

[kutnkru]

I for one am not an enormous fan of Phil HOWEVER I will say this for his character. He takes an awful lot of flack from board members over there, and even when they turn their backs on him and bad mouth him in the first paragraph if they ask for his advice/help in the second - he gladly gives it to them.

I know that many would say that hes driven to do such things by profit, but I tend to suspect its the type of person he is. I dont think we will ever see him get vulgar in his posts and he always tries to keep that board on track when it flies off the rails.

I know that I wouldnt want to be in his shoes the majority of the time. I do wish that I had half his compassion for people however. ;)

Kris

[Runner]

Originally posted by KirbysLawn
why doesn't he start his own LCO and take over the LCO world? [/B]

I've got an "inside edge" on a lucrative business, and man, my business is exPLODing! I (we) are doing pheNOMinal! Anyone want in!? I can get you in on the "ground floor"! This thing is really taking off! You're not gonna want to miss out in this deal! I have people I know involved that are millionaires! We'll sit down sometime, and talk!

Does all this sound familiar? Maybe we can incorporate the same principles and "cult" tactics into a nation or worldwide LCO. "Today, your neighbors lawn, tommorow, the WORLD!" We could ALL be "visionaries".

:D

[Henry]

I have purchased 2 of phil's books before I found this site. The info is basically common sense stuff but you can't think of everything on your own. I guess anyone who's been in this business, or any other, eventually learns over time.

I do know someone that uses his service regularly (meetings, phone calls) and he seems to be doing very well. Last year he bought an Organicare franchise from him and that seems to be going well also. I guess the guy knows something.

[TGCummings]

It was almost surreal to see his name pop up here again. Mow Ed had the funniest line in this thread and it was Phil's nastiness with the cruise business that really turned me off to him. The cruise thing, obviously, was a great idea, but Phil really let his bad side out when that didn't fall into place exactly the way he planned it... sigh...

I hope he's doing well... ;)

[SCAPEASAURUSREX]

I have two of his books.. and I found them very informative, and they were written in a way that was easy to understand , Especially for someone that was not familair with the topics... Make Great referance manuals.. I am not sorry I spent the money on them...

[lawrence stone]

If you would Phil to return to Lawnsight you need to write down his name three times.

Beatle Phil
Beatle Phil
Beatle Phil

Oh man I think I left the genie out of the bottle.

[thelawnguy]

Originally posted by KirbysLawn
In my opinon if he knows all of what he thinks he knows why doesn't he start his own LCO and take over the LCO world?

He used to have his own lawn biz, from what I understand it tanked and now he's telling others how to make the mistakes he did.

[GrassMaster]

Hello Everybody:

Yep, you've Guessed it right, I'm now an official Lurker & Another Mile Longer. :)

Phil is just another Victim of being a Consultant & People can say what they want but he is a Good One. NO other Consultant has been able to take a 10th of the Verbal abuse that he has Taken.

[GroundKprs]

Now, all the KnowItAllandKeepMyMindShuts are going to really have to think about how to bash the GrassMaster.

It is true that many of the people in the green industry run their businesses by the seat of their pants, and they honestly believe that this is the only way to do it. Let them continue in their small world. It takes some degree of intelligence to understand the theories that men like Mr. Nilsson help to teach.

But the common sense approach of the GrassMaster cannot be argued. Except, perhaps, by the smallest of minds.

[captdevo]

GrassMaster

Fine Job!!!!

[kutnkru]

Originally posted by GroundKprs
But the common sense approach of the GrassMaster cannot be argued. Amen to that!!!

Unfortunately many people just read DJ5A as always defending Phil not realizing that he is trying to make people understand how important professionalism is regardless of who is in the grinder -LOL!!!

I think that because he makes many remarks about growing up a po' white boy in JawJa that many people forget to take a look at the character and magnitude of accomplishments of the individual he is and those he speaks of and regards with such reverence.

If half the people here and abroad EVER find a friend with half the loyalty of the GrassMaster they will be lucky. My grandfather always told us as children that you will meet thousands of people, have hundreds of acquaintances, and be able to count the number of TRUE friends on one hand in your lifetime. Im glad that he is one of the few that I call friend.

Kris

[SprinklerGuy]

For those of us with a grip on our costs.........probably not a majority.........we like to hear stuff that Phil and GrMas have to say.........just don't like it crammed.........I guess it's like TV, don't watch the thread if you don't like it! But it's like a car wreck I can't help watching his posts.......

GrassMaster. one question, what is up with the capital letters in funky spots? Looks like some of the grafitti in my town!

[kutnkru]

Tony just wanted you to know that we all realize that we have spellling errors -LOL!!!

You even have two on your website! :eek:
On your Home page “guestbook” is actually two words.
On your About Us page "valleywide" should also be two words.

Nice site BTW. Just thought I would bring that to your attention before the spelling police bashed your site like Wiley or Verano.

I agree with you on the car wreck theory too. ;)
Kris

[John Allin]

Even though Mr. Nilsson and I have had our differences, one has to admit that he is resiliant, and some of his stuff really ain't all that bad. I agree that he is a bit overbearing in his method of marketing his material, but he certainly has the industry's best interest at heart.

This is not a defense of his tactics, and I doubt he is someone I would "hang" with, but just a personal view of him as a person who really does donate a lot to the industry as a whole.

[Mike Paulsen]

Grassmasters glad to see you back. Well put on costing. I have a guestion though. I'm a solo operator and know my time to do a job but want to start an employee next year. Now I know he won't be as productive as an owner so how do you figure it in? If you were wanting 45 an hour but he is 25-30% slower, which means less per hour and high job cost .

[kutnkru]

Buy the book and all shall be revealed -LOL!!! I would think that if you just add to your times that it would help you out. What takes you 60 min should take him 1hr/18min. ;)

Kris

[GrassMaster]

Hello Ladies, Gentlemen, Friends, Countrymen & Lawnsiteians!

Now a word or 2 from a JawJa Boy?

GroundKprs
Thank you for the Compliments!

captdevo
Again Thanks a Million Everybody!

kutnkru
Yes, we's Friends, I mentioned that earlier in a E-mail about 3 on a List that I can Trust you's one of them thar 3, anybody you can Trust is a Friend! :) LOL, I have to say that anybody that can Load & Unload a Honda Hydo out of the back of a Truck, is one Hell of a Man. Besides, I need all the Up Narth Friends I can get. :)

SprinklerGuy
LOL, you hit the Nail on the Head, every word that I can't Spell, I look it up in the Dictionary & spell it with Capital Letters. I've also been Known to Whip it out when in Doubt? Spray Cans, what do you think I was meaning. Oh Sorry, I get lost sometimes, Capital Letters on Certain Words gets a Lot of Attention, rather than small caps. Also if you take all my Words that are Capitalized & put them together it has a secret code only known by a Few & 4 of them are here on this Post?

kutnkru Again:

Here's some Friendly advise, it's OK to Climb up the Internet Ladder of Success to Be the Grand Marshall of the Spelling Police & you is that! But you Blew it when you Started Cursing & Using the W & V Vulgarity words. I will make a LOUD PLEA in your Defense. :)

I forgot to Mention earlier but yo GrandFather was a Wise Man. No Doubt on that & it Looks Like you's Living Proof. I wish I was one of his Frinds T00!

John Allin
Phil is a Talker, if you ever on the Phone with him, Pray to God he's Paying for the Phone Call. His head is so full of thoughts & he can Rattle them off fast as Lightening when Talking. He is a Natural Born Think Tank, all the way & he can't Turn it off Either? LOL, I've Tried. But he is a Great Person in his own way & Misunderstood by Many. He has Nothing but Good Intentions for others, no more & No Less? He's one Great Person, no matter what anybody says!

Yo Everybody Else, I'll be back & get you Next!

[GrassMaster]

Hello Mike Paulsen:

Plenty of Scenarios here? Maybe scroll past this post? LOL

OK, you say he is 25% to 30% less Productive. Wait until you hire one & see for yourself. :)

Remember even if he is as fast as you are, in your own mind he's not as fast no matter what? If he was as Good as you were he would Either be your Competition or your Boss? Please try to understand what I'm getting at?

Plenty of Problems here unless you are not going to hire others. If you do hire others are you going to base their hourly rate based on their job Performance? You can't really do that, so if you decide he is worth say $35 an hour & the Next Guy is $42.50 an hour. Again You can't do that & be Fair.

You really need to figure what your Employees Total Operating Expenses per hour are going to be first. If you can't Clear at least $10 an hour per Employees, FORGET IT. You are a Much Needed Baby Sitter & you should get paid for it, (Because you got to find & Keep the Babies T00!). So Figure your Expenses on this New crew member first before you do anything?

Now for a long Time when I was in Business, I charged $5 more an hour for my Labor. Well that was Fine & Dandy untill I got up to a 5 & 6 Man Crew. Then I was the StrawBoss, A customer watched us as we were doing a Killer Clean up one day.

He Started Boofing about my Hourly Rate & he was right. It takes at least 50% to 75% of your time effectively running 5 or 6 men in a big clean up. But Look at what gets done in that Time Period as a Group? The Big Picture is what you are Looking for?

If I was working 5 or 6 Men Today, I could Milk enough Extra out of them to pay my Salary & it would be a Lot More than they are Getting Paid. I would just add my Salary on to their Labor. It all comes out in the wash!

That's when I quit even Charging a Hourly rate for me. I just added on another $5 or so Dollars an hour on to each of the Employees. Because I wasn't working that much, but I was Running the Crew to it's Fullest Potential.

Some Folks will fuss about you getting paid more than others, it's just Human Nature these Days.

If it was just me & a Helper at the Time Being, I would Charge at least $35 to $40 an hour. You can get the Helper to do what you do not like to do, that way you will be using the Helpers time more effectively, thus Speeding up your Productivity. Balances out in the Long Run? Doesn't it?

If you were going to use a helper Full Time & consider hiring others later on Down the Road I would Charge at least $40 straight across the board for all. Then no Questions. You just adjust your Work. You can work wide open untill you fall in your Tracks like I did, or you can adjust your Work to be at the same speed as others.

You also need to look at the Overall Productivity of you as a Team, that should come first.

LOL, Forget everything I just Said above. If you have been getting $45 an hour for your Labor, there is no way you should charge less than $85 an hour for you Both.

There is a lot of Operating cost involved here, the only difference is your Physical Productivity.

Another thing, I tried to stay away from Hourly Work as much as possible. Think about it, it doesn't sound like much to tell Folks I'll Trim your Hedge for $175 but try to tell them that you think you can trim it in 3 hours for $50 an hour. They do not think about all your Overhead & Operating Expenses.

[dhicks]

I must be the village idiot :eek: because I don't understand the dislike for Phil. When I first came to Lawnsite I can remember four people who helped me make the transition into landscape maintenance: Eric, Lanelle, Chuck and Phil. Phil (without me asking) mailed a few sample contracts to help me with new clients. Phil made time to send detailed emails to elaborate on several subject I was asking about in the commercail forum as a rookie.

I guess that I just don't get it because Phil offered me nothing but help and guidance. I guess ignorance has it's own rewards, in my case.

[Finecut]

Phil gone and I hope he doesn't come back...I didn't like the trouble he tried to stir up! Just my opinion...doesn't mean that it's right!

[GrassMaster]

Hello:

Look at how many Consultants have came & gone from here?

They can only Help with their Valuable Information & Free Help. Do you Really think they come here to Start Trouble. I do not think so? Phil & the others have been Bashed Hard, Plenty of Times, way more than once, Just look at this Post Phil has been gone over a Year & Folks just Keep on & On. They will not let it go, All of the Consultants Deserved Better!

Which other Consultant Bent over Backwards & gave up their Free time to Help Raise Money for Chuck or for the Forum Operating Expenses. Name just one, Please? And did not ask for anything in Return? Do you Know the anser? I do,Not one, Not an Onion. That's a Fact Jack!

If you go to a Group to Help & quite a few Start Bashing you, what would you do?

It's no Different than if you Kept going to the Same Neighborhood to Give Free advise at the Monthly Home Owners Meetings to Discuss Topics on Lawn Service & Landscaping. You there Hoping that some will like your information & they Later decide to use your Services.

Look at the number of Consultants that have been here? They were Treated Like Crap & Anybody with Common Sense Knows that? That's why they left?

I've Helped Quite a Large Number of People Myself, Mainly People just Starting out. My Information is Free & if I can Help I do so. I bet there is at Least close to a 1,000 or more that found this Forum because of me?

I answer questions by E-mail about the Business almost Every Day. When I send them the Information they Request, I never hear back from about 95% of them?

I do not want People to Bow Down & Kiss me, but a Thank you would be nice or a E-mail later on down the Road letting me Know How they are doing? I'm not just Interested in Helping the Individual that ask, I'm Helping their whole family to improve their life. That means far more than Monetary Gain!

Is that asking to much? Yes, it Most Certainly is! Just ask Me?

I started in the Business back in the Mid 80's & I didn't have these kind of Resources. Really not much of anybody to ask for Help. What few times I did Recieve Help, I thanked them more than once & if I thought it had a Value on it, I rewarded them for it? But that's the Kind of Person I am & I Truly Apologize for being a Thankful & Greatful person, but that's the Type Person I am. And I thank God for it.

I always try to Help others at all Cost, Even if it means Sticking my Neck out or even going out on a Limb. it's the way I was Raised, there were no Freebies or Silver Patters when I was Growing up. I wanted them but they were not in my Grasp?

I Yam what I Yam. I can't change & I do not want to, I'm doing just Fine the Way I am Now? I have many Friends Here & all over the Internet. I've done my part to Help the Green Industry & I will Continue.

If you ask me for Help no matter who you are, I will do my Best. If you are a Friend of Mine I will Try Even Harder.
Semper Fi! (Allways Faithful)

[TGCummings]

Nobody questions your dedication to the Industry, GM, and I think there's been as much positive feedback about Phil as negative. Maybe more.

You probably wouldn't do much better than that with anyone when it comes to a community this size.

With the possible exception that Double-Blade Guy. Everybody love him. ;)

I can't speak for the Board in general, but I don't think I would be out on a limb to say Phil can return and bring his years of wisdom with him. We're a public, if opinionated, forum.

We're people people, at heart. :D

[LAWNGODFATHER]

WOW some one says "Phil" and they get all this.

I wonder what they would get if they say "Eric"!!!!!


Lay off Phil, he tries to help you.

BTW doesn't this remind you of the Bob Mcnaughton guy. Were is he? I hope he didn't get run off.

[cp]

I wasn't around a year ago, but I do read his books and I have read the posts he has made.

According to some of the stuff I'm reading lately Nillson is not that bad.

[AltaLawnCare]

GrassMaster has resurfaced !!!

I do enjoy those 'encyclopedial' posts which are as informative as they are entertaining!:D

Grassmaster's site was the first lawn care business site I found on the net - way back when.

One question, ...I thought the way to handle employee billing was to use the hourly method - a 4 hour job = 4 hours per solo, but completed in 2 hours (hopefully) with 2 men on the job. In other words bill per man hour, not actual clock hour on a job.

Is this logical thinkng or not??:confused:

[kutnkru]

Billy that is basically how I bill out my work.

If I have 3 men at a site for 5 hrs its 15 man hours billed to the customer. If I have a 2 man crew at a site for 7.5 hrs then its still 15 hrs billed out. The same goes for a solo op at a site for almost two full days - 15 man hours billed to the clients.

Kris

[John Allin]

Good ol' Phil apparently is beginning to wear out his welcome "over there"..... some interesting reading lately....

[Charles]

Originally posted by SCAPEASAURUSREX
I have two of his books.. and I found them very informative, and they were written in a way that was easy to understand , Especially for someone that was not familair with the topics... Make Great referance manuals.. I am not sorry I spent the money on them...

If you knew Phil as well as some of us do from these forums. You would be sorry he had your money. He take your money and spit on you

[Guido]

Originally posted by John Allin
Good ol' Phil apparently is beginning to wear out his welcome "over there"..... some interesting reading lately.... I believe he's washed up over there, at least he's lost anyone that posts on the un moderated weekends.

He was safer when he was here because the posts would be so spun around by the time they were all edited that it would probobly push his stuff even more. On a positive note, he wouldn't be able to do all that annoying free advertising here though.

I miss Bill Phagan, I wonder what ever broke his ties with Lawnsite? He had a heartbeat compared to others.

We'll see what happens.

[Paradise Yard Service]

Yo JJ,

I still pee in the cup when all else fails. Nillson has not changed me and my buisiness is still very well intact.

Keep up the good work Lawnsite!

Surf is up, way up.

Aloha,
P.Y.S.

[awm]

i dont know phil or anything about him much. i do have a feeling
we might not have been buddies.
i do admire anyone who can stand against the pack.
as to the pack,my experience is they not much to worry about ,cause sooner or later they gota stand by themselves.

[John Allin]

He almost has to put up with that grief over there.... where else is he gonna go ??

[thelawnguy]

Originally posted by Guido
I miss Bill Phagan, I wonder what ever broke his ties with Lawnsite? He had a heartbeat compared to others.

Just wondering the same thing. I no longer recieve his newsletters, for whatever reason.

[cos]

I bought these books. DO NOT BUY THEM! They are thin and less informative than advertised. If you need to know anything then ask here. You are getting something free here, and are paying for someone's opinion there. In this one book 75 winter incomes, it discusses stuff like painting, power washing, blah, blah. STUPID! I can think of many other winter jobs that would be useful in our field rather than the usual. These books are not worth the money, believe me! Don't make the same mistake I did.

[Ric]

Guido

Bill Phagan still writes for several Industry maz here in Fla. and does many semiars also. He is part of a site that has a forum but last I checked it didn't have a post in over a month. In true Phagan style this is a real commerical advertiseing site and looks like a money maker if it ever gets going. Everyone that has been to his semiars that I talked to agrees that Bill realy likes him self. But if you set yourself up as an expert then you have to believe in your self.

[kutnkru]

Bill has his own site:


I have passed thru there from time to time.

[mmorgan]

Hello, DJ5A, John, Tony, LawnGodFather, and Guido!

I have decided to give this site another try. I decided to post on the "Phil" thread and give my opinions. Here they are:

Phil is very knowledgable regarding this biz. His info. for new start ups and people who are in the first few years is great. I think he genuinely cares about the industry and the people in it.
The problem is this. His attitude and childish antics are unreal. He is in the process of driving away most of the "quality posters" at L&L's message board. I am one of them. While professionalism in this industry is always questioned by the consumer, the actions of Mr. Nillson on the other board is what keeps this industry in the cellar. He is blatently disregarding the "Terms of Use". During the week when the "office" is open, he is Mr. Helpful, but on weekends and holidays, he is rude, insulting and arogant to say the least. In short time, he will be left alone in a room with A-1 and Bizarro GeeVee. It is sad to say the least.

Anyway, while I only have time for one board, I am here to make the best of it. I enjoy biz. topics and helping out if I can. A little "fat" along the way is fine by me, but if kept to a minimum. Feel free to ask anything of me and I will help out if possible.:blob4:

[kutnkru]

I see the sub but am curious where the dom is???

[John Allin]

mmorgan,
I agree with your assessment of the situation 'over there'. Welcome back. Hopefully we (over here) won't resort to the childishness that is unfortunately taking over 'over there'.

[SprinklerGuy]

HI Matthew!
Glad to see ya. I have been spending less time there and more here. Found this site to be more professional and have gotten much need info and made many contacts here. I will check in there to see how it goes but I am glad to be here.


Let's start helping each other..................

[Guido]

Welcome back to Lawnsite, glad you guys knew that this site was available.

Like you said, a little "fat" now and then is okay, and the way this site is organized into seperate topics, you only get what you go looking for. If you want politics, religion, and humor, you go to off topic forum. If you want lawn care, you go to that section and so on and so forth.

Also you mentioned the business topics. A few of us have really been pushing that section of the site and the guys here can vouch for me that it grew and is 200% more active than it was. People are starting to realize that to have a successful business you have to be a good business man/woman, not just be able to "cut grass".

Anyway, glad to see your over here, and no matter how much I complain about some moderators from time to time they do a great job here (even on holiday's and weekends! ;) ). You will never see the antics pulled next door over here, which is definetly a good thing!

[John Allin]

My Lord has it has gotten very strange 'over there'.....

[Tvov]

Originally posted by John Allin
My Lord has it has gotten very strange 'over there'.....


Yes, you are right. I am wondering what will happen "Come Monday".

By the way, I have been ghosting for awhile. It looks like you all may be stuck with me now that "over there" has turned into the Twilight Zone.

[Bill M.]

Hey they're some good people "over there" and I'd like to think that I've made a few friends. But the mess was intentionally and deliberately stirred up. That I don't appreciate. But holy poop, the subjects response to the "invasion" is sad!

[LAWNGODFATHER]

So who are the "Associates"?

Or is it just Phil Nilsson.

BTW you guys wont be disapointed over here. Welcome and welcome back.

[groundsguy1970]

In cases like this it is best to remember that one is many and many is one...

[Guido]

Where are you from in CT?

[John Allin]

Bill M's right.
There are some really good people posting 'over there'. Some very intelligent and knowledgable people who can provide some great insight for the gang over herr that really want to learn and grow. Hope they can be happy here and can help here like they (used to be able to) help 'over there'.
Welcome to all.

[cos]

Originally posted by LAWNGODFATHER

Lay off Phil, he tries to help you.


For a nominal fee!

A forum is for a bunch of landscapers to come together help each other out with the aspects of our businesses. Not for a consultant to help, then throw this one liner "In my book, you will find" Let's face it, the whole reason why he is there is to sell books! He wouldn't be there if it weren't for that. He baits all the newcomers into buying them, and they don't even realize that the info in the forums is free. How bout I write a couple books and just paste my URL in my profile. How bout we all do it! Come on guys, wake up!

[LAWNGODFATHER]

I was trying to be nice. LOL

I get his adds in the mail. Guess where they go????

I have never looked at the books, but I did look at his web site.

I think they are extreamly high priced.

The info that is in them I can't comment on.

If I'm not mistaken many of us have links to ours and other web sites in our sig lines or posts.

So what wrong is he actualy doing? Selling his books. If that's the case I still wouldn't buy one.

Also why buy his books when he probaly gets his info off here.LOL

Why spend the money when you could just ask here for "free" with industy pros, including myself, and industry leaders such as John Allin.

[Tvov]

Originally posted by Guido
Where are you from in CT?


On the shore in the middle of the state. I am up to my knees in leaves right now. Which is a good thing because the leaf vacuum is still working.

(God, it is annoying writing a reply with those smilies jumping up and down on the side of the screen!!!!)

[Sammy]

Originally posted by Tvov
(God, it is annoying writing a reply with those smilies jumping up and down on the side of the screen!!!!)



You got that right !
Some guys always have them in their posts.
Hit your STOP icon to stop them dang things.

[thelawnguy]

Any popup-stopper software can and will also hide those annoying smilies. Or just go to your profile and under one of the options turn them off.

[John Allin]

Interesting that you cannot get into the L&L site this morning.......

[GrassMaster]

Hello Everybody:

I's here Lurking again?

Welcome Matthew & Other New People to the Lawnsite Forum!

BTW: There is a Virus that has been Floating around since Yesterday & it's going to Green Industry Folks. It should be taken care of by now, but you might have Received a copy?

Do not Download the attachment!

For all you that Run OutHouse or Outlook or anything similar to that, I would Recommend you Disabling your Preview on your E-mails & Make good & SURE you Remove the Attachment.

DO NOT Leave it in your Recycle Bin, Permanatly Delete it? Also I would go to Tools, then Options & Make sure you Change all Settings that's Related to Automatic anything on your E-mail Settings? NOW, Then Later you can Verify if you have it or not?

BTW: It appears that this Virus goes Straight to your MS DOS operating system & it Loses the last part of the File Extension from the last dot in the file name to the end of the File Extension name? The Virus as Many others has 2 dots in the file Extension Name, this is a Dead Giveaway it's a Virus?

[fshrdan]

So where is "over there" anyway. I have no idea what you guys are talking about. I do know that I won't be buying any of Nilsson's books though. Thx

[KirbysLawn]

Originally posted by LAWNGODFATHER
So who are the "Associates"?

Or is it just Phil Nilsson.

BTW you guys wont be disapointed over here. Welcome and welcome back.

LMAO, good point! IF I was an "associate" I would be selling my part of the biz.

[John Allin]

Well... if you don't know where 'over there' is, we shouldn't tell you.... as you could get hurt 'over there'....

[fshrdan]

LOL thanks for looking out for me, John. Sounds like the deep forbidden lake... I promise never to inquire about it again

[Charles]

Be very careful? not to download? this virus? because you will? have? an uncontrollable urge? TO DO THIS? all the time???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/ hahahahaha