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Scottscape
03-03-2008, 06:33 PM
I'm posting this in the hardscape oppose to the landscape forum because I know you guys run into drainage problems all the time and are very familiar with dry wells.

Heres the problem. I've got a client that has a drainage problem in her yard and a retention problem directly behind her yard. Well the retention pond is only 2.5-3.0' deep so we can't tap into it because the rention pond doesnt drain as well and floods into her yard sometimes. They own half of the retention pond but the county will not let them do anything with it (i.e. dig it deeper, put swells before the retention pond at her fence line). So I'm thinking that we have no other choice besides a dry well cause this water has no where else to go. The back is what she is mainly concerned about oppose to the front because the trees (she wants to preserve them). We all know that we can't build up where the trees are because we don't want to smother the roots.

The builder who did the grading put a small swell out by the street that isnt working and has this huge mound on the right side of the house (facing the house). The grade of the yard should have been built up before the build of the house but I'm guessing they wanted to preserve these trees.

I've posted pics tell me what you guys think

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/sciloteous/IMG_0148.jpg
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front of house http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/sciloteous/IMG_0157.jpg
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ppl
03-03-2008, 08:29 PM
How long does the water sit? Oaks and maple can only handle 7 days of standing water before they die. So if your a concerned about topsoil over root why doesn't the water kill them. Plus, you can raise the grade over tree root, depending on the tree studies have shown 3-4' will not harm trees any more may cause a problem. Drains should help in the back we use a product call multiflow, which is set in sand and is very shallow. How much fall do you have in the front?

PatriotLandscape
03-03-2008, 08:57 PM
Not sure if a drywell will work because from the looks of things it won't be dry for long and it would need to be enormous for the amount of water that is causing the problem.

Groomer
03-03-2008, 09:14 PM
Wow, reminds me of the "I've got some nice land in Florida" thing. Is there a ditch in the front where the road comes by? Could you channel that water to it? Elevations look super tricky.

PatriotLandscape
03-03-2008, 09:18 PM
Here both oaks and maples grow in swampy areas so the trees should be fine.g

Scottscape
03-03-2008, 09:30 PM
there is no ditch out front besides a swell and hell thats only 6" deep. the street is about 3' higher than the foundation of the house. I told you this builder was crazy. Seems like they will build anywhere anymore and pass inspection.

Majesticman
03-04-2008, 12:48 AM
It would have been easier if they would have built the house a couple of feet higher but that is hind sight. Weeping willows will do good there.

Shadetree Ltd
03-04-2008, 02:04 AM
The largest dry well possible wouldn't solve anything. The surface water is simply the water table, a dry well would fill fast and not offer enough of anything to lower the water table.

Groomer
03-04-2008, 09:03 AM
Sheeesh, maybe they just wait for the next drought and list it then, hoping for a quick sell, or get the government to purchase it as a wetlands restoration area!

joesimoes2
03-04-2008, 09:18 AM
there is no ditch out front besides a swell and hell thats only 6" deep. the street is about 3' higher than the foundation of the house. I told you this builder was crazy. Seems like they will build anywhere anymore and pass inspection.






He or she has one option that will fix the problem the house must be raised.

How old is the house. Looks pretty new to me don’t know why the town would pass inspection on this house.:waving:

Scottscape
03-04-2008, 10:47 AM
To be honest I dont feel comfortable with doing anything to the yard drainage of the house. Dry wells would be my only option. If I could I would dig that retention pond deeper but the county wont let them. I know I could fix it that way but thats the only way. Dry wells are a temporary fix to atleast keep somewhat of the water down in the back yard for a small period of time until that retention pond filled up. Theres nothing I can do with the front yard unless that had deep pockets and waited till it was dry and I could take an air spade to the tree roots and tunnel french drains under the roots but to me that would be a waste and again I wouldn't feel comfortable with doing it. It would take alot of money to permanently fix that problem it looks like. I'm glad you guys agree with me on this.

After providing her with the consultation yesterday she called an excavation company to see what there suggestions would be. Well I guess the guy is coming out today to take a look at what she has. She seemend immediately sold by him on the phone :rolleyes: and hes already knocking my ideas and hasn't even seen the property.

BrandonV
03-04-2008, 09:48 PM
sump pumps

ESVA
03-04-2008, 10:34 PM
I would take the auger on the Bobcat and drill a couple 12 - 16 in. holes as deep as you can in the wet spots and fill with clean stone. Around here there is sand down about 4 ft. This don't work in the swamp!

tinye
03-09-2008, 09:06 PM
work with what you got...create a rain garden. Some drainage work will be needed as far as layering in gravel and sand before topsoil. Google the word rainscapes for installation and plant selection for your Zone. Good luck