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Marek
03-11-2008, 11:12 PM
Has anyone seen one of these? How were they built? Whats the pricing like? I spoke to a dealer today that has Ford and Sterling said that they are comparable trucks with a n edge to the Ford as far as quality.

stuvecorp
03-12-2008, 12:48 AM
I have looked at them and they spec out good. I probably won't get one this year but with the 6.7, 6 speed auto and factory exhaust brake it should be a towing monster. A pimped out 5500 two wheel drive was coming in about $40,000.

Wrobel#1
03-12-2008, 12:53 AM
Its a new dodge

pj550v12
03-12-2008, 01:13 AM
Its a new, more expensive dodge . . .

BlackCloudDiesel
03-12-2008, 09:35 AM
That's exactly what they are. I have a few Sterling's and love them, Sterling is owned by Freightliner which is part of Mopar, how does that saying go again.....

"You buy a Ford to work
a GM to drive around
and a Mopar to Fix"

TXNSLighting
03-12-2008, 10:10 AM
That's exactly what they are. I have a few Sterling's and love them, Sterling is owned by Freightliner which is part of Mopar, how does that saying go again.....

"You buy a Ford to work
a GM to drive around
and a Mopar to Fix"

ha!!! Now thats great.

oakhillslandscaping
03-12-2008, 10:17 AM
i cant see spending 40,000 or over on a truck that small, you could spend 40,000 on a bigger more officient truck, however they are really nice and i kno a guy that has the 3500 dodge with that same exhuast brake and that truck sounds mean

LawnGuy73
03-12-2008, 10:48 AM
Its a 2500 or 3500 Dodge Ram with a Sterling Grill and about a $10,000 higher price tag.

mag360
03-12-2008, 12:11 PM
Its a 2500 or 3500 Dodge Ram with a Sterling Grill and about a $10,000 higher price tag.

4500 or 5500.
Compares to f550 or chevy 4500 5500's.

LawnGuy73
03-12-2008, 12:26 PM
4500 or 5500.
Compares to f550 or chevy 4500 5500's.

I meant the body style.

TXNSLighting
03-13-2008, 12:32 AM
I meant the body style.

then its just a dodge that says sterling. all dodge trucks look the same!

ProTouch Groundscapes
03-13-2008, 09:15 AM
from what ive seen the sterlings price out cheaper than the dodge counterparts.

plus you get better dealer support from sterling, with them being specialist in heavy duty trucks. whereas if you buy a dodge 45-5500 try getting your dealership to work on that.

LawnGuy73
03-13-2008, 11:55 AM
then its just a dodge that says sterling. all dodge trucks look the same!

Pretty much, with some minor changes.

LawnGuy73
03-13-2008, 11:57 AM
from what ive seen the sterlings price out cheaper than the dodge counterparts.

plus you get better dealer support from sterling, with them being specialist in heavy duty trucks. whereas if you buy a dodge 45-5500 try getting your dealership to work on that.

Really, interesting. I know when I had looked at them about a year ago for a cab and chasis it was nearly $50,000.

ProTouch Groundscapes
03-13-2008, 01:19 PM
50k for a bare cab and chassis! wow, ill have to check my numbers again.

BlackCloudDiesel
03-13-2008, 09:25 PM
They don't look that bad but at 50k for pretty bare bones truck- eh it's a tough call. I've got the Acterra dump trucks- they only set me back about 65-70k a piece (well equipped), but that was a few years ago, who knows how much they cost now. But if the price is still relative, then for just 10k more then the Bullets you get a whole lot more truck!!!

http://hollistontruck.com/images/100_0616.jpg - not my truck, stock photo from google

LawnGuy73
03-13-2008, 10:04 PM
They don't look that bad but at 50k for pretty bare bones truck- eh it's a tough call. I've got the Acterra dump trucks- they only set me back about 65-70k a piece (well equipped), but that was a few years ago, who knows how much they cost now. But if the price is still relative, then for just 10k more then the Bullets you get a whole lot more truck!!!

http://hollistontruck.com/images/100_0616.jpg - not my truck, stock photo from google

Is the Acterra dump still under 26,000 GVWR ?

ZX12R
03-13-2008, 10:07 PM
The 4500,5500 Sterling is not 50k for a cab and chassis. I was quoted 40k for a 5500 c&c 3 months ago.

mag360
03-14-2008, 01:49 PM
The 4500,5500 Sterling is not 50k for a cab and chassis. I was quoted 40k for a 5500 c&c 3 months ago.

That sounds more like it. I'd expect to get down to mid to low 30's for base models c&c.

BlackCloudDiesel
03-14-2008, 05:52 PM
Yeah, the Acterra's can be "factory de-rated" to be under 26,000lbs. I have one that is- I get a huge rear axle and a double frame for a truck under 26k- that is really overbuilt. My other one #802 is the same way, but with a 33k gvwr.

Gravel Rat
03-14-2008, 07:21 PM
If you are going to buy a 4500-5500 it should be a Sterling a Dodge dealer doesn't have mechanics smart enough to work on anything bigger than a mini van. Most Sterling/Freightliner dealers are open later and more of them plus they have mechanics with better skills.

A 4500-5500 C+C in B.C. are around 45-47,000 you will not find one for less. It is the same price as a F-450 or F-550 except for Ford offers a V-10 that lessens the price by 9500-10,000 dollars.

johnnybravo8802
04-12-2008, 10:40 AM
If you own a tandem or tractor trailer, I can see using a dealer with "heavy duty experience." The Sterling is just another pickup just like the F550, nothing more and nothing less. Anyone who can work on a pickup can work on a Sterling.

Marek
04-12-2008, 05:19 PM
Not true ! Try to find a good dealer who has a "good diesel tech" !

johnnybravo8802
04-12-2008, 05:50 PM
Just about every truck on the road is diesel now and none of them are Sterlings(I haven't seen one yet). Someone has been working on them for all these yrs. or they wouldn't be running. A diesel is a diesel. Sterling mechanics come from the same schools as all the rest. In fact, a diesel is one of the simplest engines out there-simpler than a gasoline. It's nothing more than a block and long stroke pistons. This is coming from someone who's had a Class A CDL for 13 yrs. now and have driven every kind of diesel powered truck out there.

KTM
04-12-2008, 05:55 PM
I would never take A diesel to a regular dealership, A diesel is not simple with todays technology especially when you factor in injection pumps. even the older mechanical cummins I would not take to A Dodge dealer for repair

johnnybravo8802
04-12-2008, 08:21 PM
Where else are you going to take it if it's still under warranty. Dealers wouldn't sell something they can't work on-they wouldn't be able to.

Gravel Rat
04-13-2008, 12:01 AM
The Dodge dealer in this area does it they sell diesel trucks and they can't work on them.

I would rather have a Sterling truck if I was in the market for one atleast they have mechanics that can work on the newer engines.

The 6.7 Cummins has all kinds of polution crap on it just like Ford and Chev you need mechanics that know how to work on it. The new class 8 trucks have simillar pollution crap.

KTM
04-13-2008, 09:49 AM
I called 3 local dealers last year to get a price on valve lash on A old 12 valve ISB the price they quoted me made me laugh, I could tell by the price they gave me that they did not know a thing about diesel's. I remember a few years back my fathers injection pump went out under warranty, the Dodge dealer had him bring it to A Cummins truck shop. maybe some area's are different but, around here when your diesel need's engine/ injection work you don't go to A Dodge dealer unless your looking to get ripped

Gravel Rat
04-14-2008, 02:14 AM
The old mechanical Cummins you can take to anybody that knows how to work on them. The newer electronic Cummins a Cummins dealer has a h*ll of a time working on them because Dodge uses a different ECM. I know Cummins has told a mechanic friend of mine who used to work on Cummins in Freighliner said that they can't talk to the engine with their computers only Dodge can.

Supposidy the same 24 valve engine used in a FL-50 only requires 2-3 wires to run where as Dodge totally screwed around and it requires 10 wires to run.

If you know a mechanic with a Snap On scanner they can work abit with Dodge's ECM for the Cummins.

Dodge is no different than Ford with screwing around with their own ECM and electronics when the original manufacturers ECM works just find except for it poduces less power.

Nozzleman
04-14-2008, 01:33 PM
I would buy a Dodge version from a Dodge dealer. As long as the dealer has a competant diesel mechanic you will be fine. Remember, the Dodge dealer has been working on the Dodge version of the Cummins ISB longer than any Sterling dealer. Furthermore, if you need warranty work performed on anything besides the engine, the Dodge dealer has more experience working on the truck than a Sterling dealer.

morturf
04-15-2008, 02:13 AM
Just a quick note here. The one thing I like about the Sterling dealer here is the Service Dept. is open till midnight on weekdays and noon to 6 on weekends.
Sterling is now part of the Freightliner Company. Sort of a relic of the Daimler/Chrysler merger. Daimler let go of Chrysler but kept the medium and heavy truck divisions. Sterling being one of them. The Bullet was in the pipeline before the breakup. I think from a service standpoint you can't lose with these dealers. Mine has been great. I don't own a Bullet...I have a 360 cabover. So far a great little truck!!