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ConstSvcs
03-13-2008, 07:41 PM
We received shipment of the 12' Switch-n-Go hoist last week. We removed the body take came with the chassis (see S-n-G project truck post) and set up the chassis for the new hoist frame. The kit is a very easy install. We welded the six supplied tabs to the hoist frame and bolted them to the chassis as instructed. I purchased the bumper assembly from the S-n-G dealer and welded that to the end of the frame rails. We fabricated mounts for the fenders and mud flaps. I decided to purchase two Weatherguard under mount tool boxes ($900 ):dizzy: for tarp, chain and hold down storage.

The power and control connections are very simple. The control box for the hoist and winch can be operated from the cab of from the ground via a remote outlet jack.

At this point I'm into the truck for $27,000 . When I pickup the first 15yd can next week we'll be at 30G's.

I think the whole idea will work well for us since most of our work is on confined sites and the truck will easily pull my trailer and mini-excavator or skidsteer.

Beside the fact that my dump trailer is a pain in the A$$ and I hate dumpster rentals

Tom T

Marek
03-13-2008, 08:29 PM
Looks good. Would like to hear about it after you start using it and how well it hauls under load.

PerfectEarth
03-13-2008, 09:11 PM
Looks nice! What is the GVWR on that truck?

ZX12R
03-13-2008, 09:31 PM
That looks really good! I wish I could weld good enough to do something like that. Is that a 12' system? Whats the CA ratio on that truck? Do you mind sharing what the s&g system cost without the body?

ConstSvcs
03-13-2008, 10:14 PM
Looks good. Would like to hear about it after you start using it and how well it hauls under load.

Will let you know soon

ConstSvcs
03-13-2008, 10:15 PM
Looks nice! What is the GVWR on that truck?

The gvw is 19,500#

ConstSvcs
03-13-2008, 10:18 PM
That looks really good! I wish I could weld good enough to do something like that. Is that a 12' system? Whats the CA ratio on that truck? Do you mind sharing what the s&g system cost without the body?

The CA ratio is 108" and yes ..........it's the 12' hoist. The 12' S-n-G unit and bumper cost $10,300 delivered to my site.

ZX12R
03-13-2008, 10:26 PM
Thanks for sharing.The reason I asked those questions is because,3 months ago,I was getting quotes to put a 12' system on a 108 CA. Prices were all around 14k and included a body. Good luck with your truck.

ZX12R
03-13-2008, 10:42 PM
Thanks for sharing.The reason I asked those questions is because,3 months ago,I was getting quotes to put a 12' system on a 108 CA. Prices were all around 14k and included a body. Good luck with your truck.

ConstSvcs
03-13-2008, 10:45 PM
Thanks for sharing.The reason I asked those questions is because,3 months ago,I was getting quotes to put a 12' system on a 108 CA. Prices were all around 14k and included a body. Good luck with your truck.

if that included the bumper and medium duty can.........thats a fair deal.

I was getting quotes of 16,000.........which is why I made the choice to install it. I could buy another can for the install fee.

DBL
03-13-2008, 11:23 PM
looks like an awesome truck you got whats the gvw?...is there any major advantages between a hooklift and roll off?

ConstSvcs
03-14-2008, 12:03 AM
looks like an awesome truck you got whats the gvw?...is there any major advantages between a hooklift and roll off?

19,500# GVW The Switch-n-Go hoist system is much less expensive and lighter in weight than a hook lift unit.

The downside is that the S-n-G is slower at swaping bodies than a hooklift.

Gravel Rat
03-14-2008, 01:19 AM
You have double the lifting power with the switch and go over the hooklift. A hooklift doesn't have the dumping power and it doesn't have the pulling power.

Hooklifts are heavy you have all that extra weight of a swing arm etc.

The switch and go is light but strong that doesn't eat up the payload.

It may take longer to swap out bodies who cares you want the power when your pulling on a bin that will make the front tires bounce off the ground.

When I ran conventional hoist tandem axle the front end would bounce up and down when pulling on a heavy can.

I have watched a local guy with a 9000lb capacity hooklift on a F-450 the thing was sucking wind pulling on a box with 5000lbs in it.

Your cab over will easily carry the weight it is stopping the weight is the problem. You will probably want to put the best brake pads possible to maximize the smaller brakes.

ConstSvcs
03-14-2008, 07:55 AM
You have double the lifting power with the switch and go over the hooklift. A hooklift doesn't have the dumping power and it doesn't have the pulling power.

Hooklifts are heavy you have all that extra weight of a swing arm etc.

The switch and go is light but strong that doesn't eat up the payload.

It may take longer to swap out bodies who cares you want the power when your pulling on a bin that will make the front tires bounce off the ground.

When I ran conventional hoist tandem axle the front end would bounce up and down when pulling on a heavy can.

I have watched a local guy with a 9000lb capacity hooklift on a F-450 the thing was sucking wind pulling on a box with 5000lbs in it.

Your cab over will easily carry the weight it is stopping the weight is the problem. You will probably want to put the best brake pads possible to maximize the smaller brakes.

Agreed! Lucky enough this truck is equipped with air/hydraulic service brakes and and a Jake Brake :weightlifter: :)

DBL
03-14-2008, 09:05 AM
You have double the lifting power with the switch and go over the hooklift. A hooklift doesn't have the dumping power and it doesn't have the pulling power.

Hooklifts are heavy you have all that extra weight of a swing arm etc.

The switch and go is light but strong that doesn't eat up the payload.

It may take longer to swap out bodies who cares you want the power when your pulling on a bin that will make the front tires bounce off the ground.

When I ran conventional hoist tandem axle the front end would bounce up and down when pulling on a heavy can.

I have watched a local guy with a 9000lb capacity hooklift on a F-450 the thing was sucking wind pulling on a box with 5000lbs in it.

Your cab over will easily carry the weight it is stopping the weight is the problem. You will probably want to put the best brake pads possible to maximize the smaller brakes.

that was a pretty good explanation for me

Gravel Rat
03-14-2008, 07:14 PM
I have drove conventional rolloff hoists I know what they can do. I have had the reeving cable snap before the hoist powered out. With a hooklift you need a larger hoist for the load you want to pull on. Larger hooklift more weight less payload. The only benefit I see a hooklift for is tight confined spaces where you can't lift rails all the way up.

If you get a heavy bin and put a snatch block on the switch and go you would probably rip the hook off the bin :laugh:

The only thing you have to watch with a conventional rail hoist is pulling the bin on straight. I have had bins with bent long sills so they didn't want to pull up the rails properly. If your not watching the bins long sills can hop over the hoist rails and your in trouble. I had bins where the side has blown out pulling the bin on and looking in the mirror and something is wobbling on the side the bin side has pretty well broke away from the bin floor.

Lots of fun :cool2:

allinearth
03-15-2008, 09:51 AM
Is it true that the dump angle on a hook lift is not very high. If I were to buy one I would want to use for a dump truck as well.

Gravel Rat
03-15-2008, 02:37 PM
The way the hooklifts lift cylinders are they really don't have the lifting power. It depends on what hooklift you get for dump angle a single pivot is horrible a double pivot is better but more weight.

JohnnyRoyale
03-25-2008, 09:13 PM
Hope your not planning to fill that 14 yd can with dirt or gravel-nice truck nonetheless.

ConstSvcs
03-25-2008, 10:59 PM
Hope your not planning to fill that 14 yd can with dirt or gravel-nice truck nonetheless.

Not at 2,200 lbs per cubic yd.;)

If I need a large load of earth products I'll continue to to handle it the way I always have...........have it delivered :)

Gravel Rat
03-26-2008, 07:27 PM
What do you mean he doesn't want power steering :laugh:

A low side box with 12 inch sides and 12-14 foot long is what you need for hauling gravel.

mrsops
03-26-2008, 08:50 PM
Is it true that the dump angle on a hook lift is not very high. If I were to buy one I would want to use for a dump truck as well.

i currently own a f-750 american hooklift truck. i use it alot more for hauling my machines then i do for dumping. i would like to use it more for dumping but sometimes its a real pain when dumping dirt and mulch

allinearth
03-27-2008, 08:05 AM
Had a 40 yard roll off deliver mulch and he drug it out because of dump angle. Almost like my dump trailer. Other day had wet soil that we ended up having to shovel out.:cry:

ConstSvcs
03-27-2008, 09:39 AM
Had a 40 yard roll off deliver mulch and he drug it out because of dump angle. Almost like my dump trailer. Other day had wet soil that we ended up having to shovel out.:cry:

Exactly why I chose the switch-n go. The lift hoist has a 50 degree dump angle. This was always intended to be my all purpose material handler....not just a roll-off container truck.

blakescape
12-22-2012, 07:02 PM
Is that the HD switch n go model (all hydraulic/pto)? or is it an electric over hydraulic hoist and an electric winch?

ConstSvcs
12-22-2012, 07:15 PM
The version I have is electric/ hydraulic. No room for the hydraulic reservoir with both under mount tool boxes. It's been four years and I am happy.
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EverestLandscape
01-01-2013, 12:14 AM
I am getting a F550 SNG in 2013 from my best friend, and he spared no expense when he had the truck made, it cost him almost $85k. The greatest thing he did is had a battery installed between the chassis rails so the winch works off that battery and not the two for the motor. Just a thought

ConstSvcs
01-01-2013, 03:12 AM
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ConstSvcs
01-01-2013, 03:18 AM
Ouch!!!! ! I love my switch n go but with 85k I would spent on a Pete 33k gvw single with a pusher axle ( tag) and a hook for sure!
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EverestLandscape
01-01-2013, 09:38 AM
I know, he's crazy...but he already had a Peterbilt T300 and a Kenworth W900 triaxle he just has too much money haha. It's nice to have friends with lots of cash!!
By the way, do you plan on plowing with the cab over??
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muddywater
01-01-2013, 06:59 PM
How do you like your FRR? I don't see many out there, but I have been really happy with our FRR. Mine now has 165k miles and still haven't done a brake job on it. I have had some trouble out of the cables from the manual shifter. We seem to have some sort of little problem out of them every once in a while.

ConstSvcs
01-01-2013, 07:13 PM
Love it......except for the 19500 GVW. ours has 135K still original brakes. The exhaust brake is a service brake savior!