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a1 lawncare
11-21-2001, 08:18 PM
today while using my eb 630 shindawy blower i was in a dust cloud and the dern yeler jackets kept stingin my throttle hand, i'm knew to the leaf biz so this may be something normal, but is anybody else getting shocked by your blowers, or have i got a bug in my blower..
love the blower, but i think i can do w/o the shock treatment:blob2:
happy turkey day everbody, keith
Guido
11-21-2001, 08:23 PM
New ignition switch solved my problem.
I assume your switch is on the hand piece also, take it apart and check it out.
Good Luck!
Evan528
11-21-2001, 08:26 PM
My redmax BP does the same thing every time i use it....Just havent gotten a chance to mess with it yet. My echo BP also does it occationally.
Unless I am terrible mistaken that blower is basically a repackaged version of the Redmax eb-6200. When I worked at a dealer we had some ploblems with the Redmax every once and a while. They claimed it was static electricity caused by all the air flow though the machine. Funny thing was it only shocked you when you were touching the screw that the throttle pivots on, which happens to be right next to the kill switch. There solution was to attach a grounding cable to the housing and let it hang down to touch the ground. It did seem to work because customers did not complain any more.
Hope this helps:eek:
Albemarle Lawn
11-21-2001, 09:01 PM
Today my helper complained about being shocked by a Stihl BR400. He even had thick leather gloves on.
I though maybe he was just getting funny nerves from vibration- it is only his fourth day on the job, and I sometimes get them in the spring after not running equipment for a while.
Ken
LawnPro in NC
11-21-2001, 09:34 PM
My Shind does it also. I first thought I was getting shot with a b.b. gun in the side til it statred when I was turned a different way. mine shocks right above my pants on the right side. Glad to see someone else is experiencing the same. Thought I wsa CRAZY.
a1 lawncare
11-21-2001, 09:53 PM
failed to mention i've been using this blower all summer and the only time i'm gettin bit is when i'm in heavy dust, i'm going to check all these things out . i was really interested in what crs mentioned ( what does crs stand for anyway, i can't remeber) j/k, i've seen these type things with grain handling operations/dust, everthing has to be grounded, also a buddy of mine has a cabinet shop and his dust collection system has a ground wire running with the duct work. but i got to do somethin, thanks for all the input.
keith
LoneStarLawn
11-21-2001, 09:58 PM
When you buy it in the box you must do some installation. One of the steps of the installation covers this very issue (extra step seperate from the manual). There is a lead wire that needs to be placed under the Volute Case and the side of the Bend Pipe and then through the inside of the Flexible Pipe. In other words in is placed through the connection of the first pipe (through the clamp) and remains inside the pipes...
I think it is funny that people do get shocked though...
(You are being punished for not following directions:D )
This has been discussed before...
http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5812
a1 lawncare
11-21-2001, 10:20 PM
went thru my documentation and i can't find any paperwork regarding the items you mentioned, mine came pre-assem. and i'm bettin some red-neck at the shop is getting a good laugh out of this or just can't read and did not install it. just kiddin, your right it is hillarious to see somebody getting bit, i ran a search but i guess i left out the key words, and i'm being punished OOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK i won't do it again just quit shocking me ( he he he he ).:blob2: :blob2: :blob2: :blob2:
LoneStarLawn
11-21-2001, 10:25 PM
If it is pre-assembled then it is not your fault.
The form that tells you about this installation was seperate from the manual (just a sheet of paper)
Let your dealer know that he screwed up so others wont get shocked...on second thought :D
GreenQuest Lawn
11-21-2001, 10:27 PM
Geesh thats odd. I get zapped every now and then also. I have a Eb6200 and now that you mention it crs, Thats exactly where I get zapped. Seems worse when its hot and dry.
LoneStarLawn
11-21-2001, 10:35 PM
I dont have the information on me (at the office) otherwise I would just scan it. So I will try to show you how it should go.
In the picture the lead wire (I believe is attached within the circle) needs to be placed through the clamp into the flexible tube and let the end just sit within the tubes.
http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=197749
LawnPro in NC
11-21-2001, 10:40 PM
Mine came pre ass also. Can you draw me a picture.
LoneStarLawn
11-21-2001, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by LawnPro in NC
Mine came pre ass also. Can you draw me a picture.
I posted a pic. (My previous post)
thelawnguy
11-21-2001, 11:12 PM
You sure its not just static? "hot and dry" "heavy dust" seem to be the key words here. Get the same thing when using the shop vac to suck up sand.
LoneStarLawn
11-21-2001, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by thelawnguy
You sure its not just static? "hot and dry" "heavy dust" seem to be the key words here. Get the same thing when using the shop vac to suck up sand.
It is obvious it's static electricity that is causing the shock. It can be eliminated with the lead wire in the correct position.
Everyone is talking about the EB630 or Redmax versions?
KirbysLawn
11-21-2001, 11:43 PM
If you look at the link Alan provided when I first got my 30 I was getting shocked all the time, I followed the instructions given there and the problem was solved...almost.http://unionturf.com/SHOCKED.gif
If the blower is used in high dust areas I still get shocked if I place my hand around the trottle. Solution, when working in these conditions I touch only the plastic area of the throttle and only when needed.;) I try not to rest my hand on this area and reallly don't have much problem anymore.
Runner
11-22-2001, 01:54 AM
That IS odd. I never get that with my blowers, (of course they're the Echo all plastic handle and throttle asssembly), but I used to get that all the time with a trimmer I used to have - right in the forearm. It's even better when you're wet with sweat!:p
a1 lawncare
11-22-2001, 08:01 AM
i'm gonna talk to the dealer monday am, i'll have the lead wire or whatever installed and take whoever left it out to field test it for me:p and runner it does work better when you a little damp, also kirbys lawn, yesterday when this was happening the first thing i thought of was the metal screw, so i left my hand of the screw, so now my hand is just by the kill switch and the throttle, and i'm still gettin bit, so i may still have a wire problem. im checkin everything, if it still gits me i may have to make my nephew PBO
(perm blower orderly) he's alot younger (16) and he'll probably outgrow all the adverse affects, plus sometimes i think he could use some shock treatment, like after he runs over say a skateboard, sewer cap, sprinkler heads, and pets. just kiddin about the pets, unless if theres something he has not told me..............
ya'll have a good one, keith
my craftman would never do that . it knows, cheap as it is
id give it a sling into the woods or something.bad bad trimmer:D
LoneStarLawn
11-22-2001, 11:03 AM
Since the pic is gone I attached it to this post for anyone else...
http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=197874
HOMER
11-22-2001, 11:51 AM
Yes, that would be considered Rage Against the Machine.
PaulJ
11-22-2001, 11:56 AM
Something like this used to happen to me when running an ECHO Shre-N-Vac while working for someone else. Kind of a sharp tingling feeling. :blob2: My boss would never belive me, he claimed it was just from the vibration. :confused: I just tried to hald it real lightly and not touch any metal parts. I'm glad to finaly know it wasn't all in my head :rolleyes: :D
AltaLawnCare
11-22-2001, 12:25 PM
I always wear gloves when I'm fighting my little blower. I use a pair of .99 cent rail road style gloves I got from Northern.
Homer, Don't bring up the "R" group ... There has already been one member pushed over the edge by that site!:eek:
a1,
crs happen to be my initials however It seems most folks think it stands for Can't Remember Sh...stuff.:blob4: :blob3:
Albemarle Lawn
11-22-2001, 04:16 PM
One of my BR400 blowers shocks, but only in heavy dust. Wonder if it is a static issue because of all the particulate?
Ken
thelawnguy
11-22-2001, 09:14 PM
After reading all the posts, yes it is static, relocating the kill wire (which just grounds out the ignition) allows the static to discharge to the ground wire before it builds up enough to jolt your arm. You may want to rig another wire to the chassis and wrap it along the tube and secure the end within a joint or something.
65hoss
11-25-2001, 08:56 AM
I've never had this happen on any blower. knock on wood
a1 lawncare
11-28-2001, 08:40 PM
well went by the dealer tuesday and he says there is a fix for this problem, he says he'll order the kit, at whos cost i don't really know, he also said my blower should have come with it, one of the mechanics was answering my questions and he says "the kit goes from the throttle hand thru the shielding, into the volute and inside the pipe and to a ground" i asked if this went all the way thru (to the end of) the tube and he said it did not. lonestar does this sound right? :confused:
Clint
11-28-2001, 09:32 PM
I got a husqvarna 165BT back pack blower and i get a shock to the shoulder every once in a while.. It's got a bolt on the harnace and thats where its gettin me.. I was wondering if it was me or not, now i know ;)
Clint
P.S. - How are you guys blowers? mine works great.. I dont think I can ever handle a hand-held blower again.. :p
Double D
11-28-2001, 11:19 PM
Funny, I was using my Redmax eb7000 last week blowing some leaves and was getting popped on the throttle hand. It was very dusty, and it is the only time it happened since I have had this blower. But, it did hurt like a SOB.
Martino
11-29-2001, 09:25 AM
in dusty conditions.....static electricity. Nothing wrong with the blowers. Simple DIY fix- attach length of small chain from blower to just dragging on ground. Pain in azz, yes, but only needed if conditions are "just right."
Hardy Enterprises
11-29-2001, 01:22 PM
Your dealer is right A1. It just dangles on the inside of the tube. Mine only goes about halfway down the tube, but I have not been shocked in the last year since I had it put on. My dealer put mine on at no charge.
Jay
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