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mike lane lawn care
03-23-2008, 12:00 AM
hey ya'll. let me start off by saying, i love off road driving, either with my truck or with a 4 wheeler, so i know how to drive off road(and for those of you who enjoy this same hobby, you know it's entirely different from on road driving), but how come it seems that everyone and their sister who buys an SUV or truck tries to go off roading, goes and does something stupid that hurts themselves or their vehicles. prime example; my buddy has an s10 blazer that he took off roading today, he purposely went into a ditch and buried his SUV up to the axles. he then proceeded to call up 3 other people all with full sized trucks (2008 Tundra, Dodge 1500 and Ford F-150) who also proceeded to get stuck trying to pull his blazer out, simply because they didn't know how maintain optimum traction and gunned it, which buried their vehicles as well.

I get the call to come out and do a rescue, i get out there and one by one i pull out the Dodge, then the Tundra, the the Ford, and when i got to the blazer, guess what, i pulled that one out as well. everyone there was so amazed that my bone stock V6 1500 with AT tires, did better than the lifted trucks with mud tires. but it really had nothing to do with the truck's setup, everyone there just spun their tires until they had dug in so deep they were done for. For those of you who off road, you know that you don't do that, you drop it into 4Lo, and just tap the gas until you get moving.

It just really amazed me that out of 4 different trucks, and 7 or 8 people, they couldn't figure out the proper way to do it. Any of you avid off roaders have a similar story?

kubotab7200
03-23-2008, 12:04 AM
that story makes me proud all my trucks are gmc and chevy!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank god ford dont build airplanes!

Blueribbonlawns
03-23-2008, 12:06 AM
Yeah i had to pull my friends jimmy out of some mud and all i did was put it in 4lo and let off the brake my truck has so much torque that it pulled him right out.
Same set up here stock truck with toyo M55's

kklick
03-23-2008, 12:10 AM
Hook it and hammer it seems to be what everyone wants to do. I've amazed a few people with what I can get my 2wd asto van through. You're good until you start spinning hard then your done. Low gear and light gas. I agree.

GravelyNut
03-23-2008, 12:11 AM
that story makes me proud all my trucks are gmc and chevy!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank god ford dont build airplanes!

They did at one time. :D As did a maker of stainless steel railroad passenger cars.

kubotab7200
03-23-2008, 12:12 AM
i like pullin out those ford boys, cuz they like to TALK about how much better ford is than chevy. it makes me feel good when i come accross one that needs pulled out, i smile the whole time they re being pulled by that silverado.

CALandscapes
03-23-2008, 12:17 AM
Some buddies of mine and I had our trucks out one day mud riding in the rain and came upon three trucks full of teenagers; the first truck had gotten stuck, called his buddy who got stuck, and then called a third who was stuck as well.

I pulled them out with my truck, and then two of the idiots proceeded to get stuck again before we drove away (PAY ATTENTION TO WHERE YOU'RE DRIVING KIDS!)

I proceeded to pull them out AGAIN, and warned them that that time was their last (keep in mind it was raining and cold while we were out hooking up the tow ropes for these guys).

Some people think that, because their truck is lifted, 4x4, has mud tires, whatever, they can drive through anything... Obviously they're wrong.

Blueribbonlawns
03-23-2008, 12:20 AM
Some buddies of mine and I had our trucks out one day mud riding in the rain and came upon three trucks full of teenagers; the first truck had gotten stuck, called his buddy who got stuck, and then called a third who was stuck as well.

I pulled them out with my truck, and then two of the idiots proceeded to get stuck again before we drove away (PAY ATTENTION TO WHERE YOU'RE DRIVING KIDS!)

I proceeded to pull them out AGAIN, and warned them that that time was their last (keep in mind it was raining and cold while we were out hooking up the tow ropes for these guys).

Some people think that, because their truck is lifted, 4x4, has mud tires, whatever, they can drive through anything... Obviously they're wrong.


Or their just **** stupid and try and go muddin in a stock gmc jimmy!

kubotab7200
03-23-2008, 12:22 AM
yes that is true i had a dodge ram 2500 4x4 with the 24 valve cummins and it wouldnt go through anything, it was pathetic in mud i was also tired of fixin it so i traded it for my chevy 1500 hd that was the best decision i ever made.

topsites
03-23-2008, 05:43 AM
yeh hehehe a bumper-mounted winch is good to have too :)

cspaugh
03-23-2008, 10:48 AM
I had a little 4 banger nissan, had to pull my boss out with his "big bad chevy" that had no lift and no tires and stuck. Felt good to throw snow with all four wheels at his truck as it slowly came out. Once , with the same truck, I pulled a 16 foot flatbed lumber truck out of the mud and onto hardtop, that guy laughed when I offered to hook up, then gave me a $20 when he didnt have to call a big tow company to pull.:weightlifter::weightlifter::weightlifter:

TXNSLighting
03-23-2008, 02:44 PM
that story makes me proud all my trucks are gmc and chevy!!!!!!!!!!!!

thank god ford dont build airplanes!

your an idiot

AndyTblc
03-23-2008, 02:52 PM
About a month ago, some guy in a jeep liberty was in a hurry to get to the airport to fly to florida (for some reason I don't think he liked the snow), but anyway, he took the turn to sharp to get onto the highway, and got stuck in the snow that the plow plew up on the side, and there was 2 other cars there with shovels trying to dig him out. I pulled over and asked them if he wanted me to yank him out. So did that, and the way I had to do it was block a busy street 55mph down hill from an over pass that you can't see whats on the other side. Took me 5 seconds, he said thanks and drove away, didn't offer any money. Oh well, I was having a good day anyway. Then another day, my uncle and I were in his chevy impala, some english guy got stuck turning around in a un-plowed parking lot, if any of you are from west michigan, it's was the parking lot where they want to put the gun lake tribe casino in wayland township. So me went to go push him out, and it wasn't moving at all, couldn't budge it, the guy says, "I'm holding the brake down to make it easier." I could have killed him, we were out of energy, so I told him, to let his foot off the brake and get in his van and go, so we pushed him out and he got right out.

luckylawnboy
03-23-2008, 06:55 PM
I got a 1988 s-10 2wd that will go thru more mud than all your trucks. My flat bed puts the weight over the axel. I could pull a diesel backwards, if any one wants to hook up let me know.

AndyTblc
03-23-2008, 07:00 PM
I got a 1988 s-10 2wd that will go thru more mud than all your trucks. My flat bed puts the weight over the axel. I could pull a diesel backwards, if any one wants to hook up let me know.

Bring it on.

GravelyNut
03-23-2008, 07:10 PM
I got a 1988 s-10 2wd that will go thru more mud than all your trucks. My flat bed puts the weight over the axel. I could pull a diesel backwards, if any one wants to hook up let me know.
Hold on while I put your toy in the back of my pickup.:laugh:

ALarsh
03-23-2008, 07:37 PM
Man we had a similar experience. My buddies were driving all around this moutain in his F-550 4x4 decked to the balls. He had every option it could have on it, even with navigation and bum bum heater seats. We are doing some major mountain passes up these steep slopes and man my butt was warm. Well anyways, I parked my truck in the parking lot before we went on our adventure and after a good 2-3 hours of wasting some good ole' American diesel, we decided to head back to the parking lot. My buddy got a little antzy and gunned her up the hill to show off a little. What do you know? Stuck as a rock. Back and forth he is burning rubber like hell, diesel soot coming out and he just can't get up. Well we decided to hook up my 2wd s-10 to his huge truck. You guessed it, with my superior driving experience, I was amazed I just tapped him on out of this mess he made. I had a couple friends sit on the tailgate, but you better believe it bro. Took her right out.

qualitylandscaping
03-23-2008, 08:08 PM
I got a 1988 s-10 2wd that will go thru more mud than all your trucks. My flat bed puts the weight over the axel. I could pull a diesel backwards, if any one wants to hook up let me know.

This could be fun... I'd give you a grand if you could even move my truck...

Over 9,500lbs empty.. Good luck man

:waving:

jrc lawncare
03-23-2008, 08:30 PM
This could be fun... I'd give you a grand if you could even move my truck...

Over 9,500lbs empty.. Good luck man

:waving:9500 gvwr maybe. Truck weighs maybe 5500 without the plow. I know, I have a f-350 super-duty.

qualitylandscaping
03-23-2008, 09:59 PM
9500 gvwr maybe. Truck weighs maybe 5500 without the plow. I know, I have a f-350 super-duty.


Truck was scaled at 9500 with plow. Before I got loaded w/ salt.

kubotab7200
03-23-2008, 10:03 PM
[QUOTE=TLL350;2226309]your an idiot[/QUOTe sounds like ur the idiot

deere615
03-23-2008, 10:24 PM
lol, I would have loved to see their faces as you pulled each of them out

luckylawnboy
03-23-2008, 10:30 PM
F-350 = 5500lbs? what with out the engine we got a dodge 3500 it weighs 8000lbs cummins 6-speed QC

SpruceLandscape
03-23-2008, 10:40 PM
F-350 = 5500lbs? what with out the engine we got a dodge 3500 it weighs 8000lbs cummins 6-speed QC

LOL you beat me to it! I was going to let him know that my 2500 Dodge weighs over 7500 and that was before the plow, insert, or anything else. MInes a 4x4 CTD with Quadcab and short bed. Insert weights around 750 with sides on it, plow weights just over 1K with wings on it. Do the math there... thats around 9550 lbs. not including the all the tools and crap in the back seat.

nmez21
03-24-2008, 01:21 AM
Man we had a similar experience. My buddies were driving all around this moutain in his F-550 4x4 decked to the balls. He had every option it could have on it, even with navigation and bum bum heater seats. We are doing some major mountain passes up these steep slopes and man my butt was warm. Well anyways, I parked my truck in the parking lot before we went on our adventure and after a good 2-3 hours of wasting some good ole' American diesel, we decided to head back to the parking lot. My buddy got a little antzy and gunned her up the hill to show off a little. What do you know? Stuck as a rock. Back and forth he is burning rubber like hell, diesel soot coming out and he just can't get up. Well we decided to hook up my 2wd s-10 to his huge truck. You guessed it, with my superior driving experience, I was amazed I just tapped him on out of this mess he made. I had a couple friends sit on the tailgate, but you better believe it bro. Took her right out.

Hey man! You are an AWSOME driver! You're soooo superior.

ALarsh
03-24-2008, 01:28 AM
Hey man! You are an AWSOME driver! You're soooo superior.

Hey bro it was quite the sight to see. Believe it or not, a sponsor of the Kamaz Dakar rally was there and offered me a full sponsor ship with truck, trailer, crew and all supplies that I needed if I came and drive for him, to the tune of about $125k a year. I am considering his offer, I need to make sure I check into all opportunities.

John Luttrell
03-24-2008, 10:08 AM
I work in oil and gas production here in the Piney Woods of North East Texas. I basically get paid to off road every day and can tell you that experiance makes all the difference. Another big factor is truck weight, I have driven just about every make of truck in the oil fields and can tell you that the heavier the truck, the sooner you will be hooking up the wench.

Two of the most capable vehicles I've driven off road are an old YJ jeep, with a mild lift and 33" tires, and a Toyota Tacoma with a mild lift, 33" tires and lockers front and rear. Let me be clear here; I have been stuck in all the rigs they give me to offroad in, but those two have impressed me the most. I can't haul as much gear in them, but I do a lot less walking with them trying to find a spot the cell phone will work to call for help.

http://i27.tinypic.com/2ugo19d.jpg

TXNSLighting
03-24-2008, 10:11 AM
This could be fun... I'd give you a grand if you could even move my truck...

Over 9,500lbs empty.. Good luck man

:waving:

Now that is one gorgeous truck! why have we not seen this before??!!

TXNSLighting
03-24-2008, 10:12 AM
[QUOTE=TLL350;2226309]your an idiot[/QUOTe sounds like ur the idiot

No your the idiot trying to make this a brand wars thread! Everything can get stuck! :nono:

Budget
03-24-2008, 11:02 AM
[QUOTE=kubotab7200;2226994]

No your the idiot trying to make this a brand wars thread! Everything can get stuck! :nono:

Tex,
I agree with you hear my friend, they all get stuck at one point or another. I have gotten them all stuck myself too. Two of the best mudder i ever owned was a 79 Bronco and a 79 Plymouth Trail duster i think it was the short wheel bases on these suckers but you couldn't stop them.
Change your aviator name did you?

MarcSmith
03-24-2008, 11:52 AM
Hey bro it was quite the sight to see. Believe it or not, a sponsor of the Kamaz Dakar rally was there and offered me a full sponsor ship with truck, trailer, crew and all supplies that I needed if I came and drive for him, to the tune of about $125k a year. I am considering his offer, I need to make sure I check into all opportunities.

one look at my bank account...$125K to drive a truck in mud/dirt,. and travel around....sign me up...heck I'd triping over my own feet to sign up...

I got my chevy track stuck one, when the 4wd didn't engage. drifted off the shoulder a touch on slight ditch...no 4wd no joy...

Also, whast with the 4x4 utv lawyer commercials popping up all of sudden. did they not get enough $$$ from the Hondat ATC 3 wheelers lawsuits???

Blueribbonlawns
03-24-2008, 11:59 AM
I got a 1988 s-10 2wd that will go thru more mud than all your trucks. My flat bed puts the weight over the axel. I could pull a diesel backwards, if any one wants to hook up let me know.

LOL id like to see it!

french's lawn care
03-24-2008, 12:21 PM
been there done that this is my yj and i have a tj 60th anniversary

meets1
03-24-2008, 12:27 PM
Were in the mud alot but I don't go off roading. I have chevy/GMC trucks and yes, he need to know how to get thru the stuff. In fact just the other day, 2008 ford Crew cab - bragging about his diesel, gets stuck in 6 inches of mud due to spinning tires and he dug a hole. He bound and determined to get out which made it worse. Needless to say, tow strap in hand, I drug him out and that was pretty much end of story. But if he didn't have to show off and spin tires in the mud, I think he would of been fine.

farmboy1285
03-27-2008, 01:12 AM
Hey I can back up Luckylawnboy. Im working on my old 88 isuzu pickup that is pretty close to a S10, back when it was running I would pull our farmall 450 (5800 lbs) out of the mud all the time. You would think that it would be the tractor pulling the truck out of the mud all the time but once the front wheels sink down on that old tractor your done.

thecollector
03-27-2008, 04:54 PM
Diesels can be worse in slop from my experience due to the increased weight on the frontend and and lack of weight on the rearend. As for the Brand war I don't like picking sides, I drive a dodge, but the majority of the conventional wreckers built in the united states for the past 10-15 years are fords. So if you are going by who does the most pulling out, I would say that the Fords are winners just by sheer percentage. Sorry to rain on anyone's parade.

TrapperJohn
03-27-2008, 06:50 PM
It isn't the brand, it's the experience. Good tires help, too.

Years ago, I bought a Chevy silverado with 6.2 diesel and 3" lift kit, but it was on street tires. First thing I did was bury it in the middle of a flat muddy field. No traction at all. I learned two lessons - street tires are no good off road, and there are some fields that just shouldn't be crossed. Drive a Ford now, it's as good as Chevy/Dodge, and a real bulldog when it comes to towing.

Yep, inexperienced people think that 4x4 will do anything. It won't. Wisdom and experience are what you need. Every winter, I see what happens when 4x4 is combined with no brains. Same thing that happens when an idiot gets a big atv, points it at a hill, and hits the gas.