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Danielslawnservice
03-23-2008, 12:05 AM
I have a good 25 accounts right now and need to get a truck, because i used a old van that died this winter. i need to be able to pull a big 12'X7' trailer w/ 2 Z-turns, string trimmer, backpack plower, and will need a dump bed for grass clippings and such. also i need to be able to pull a skid loader w/ a full bed of cargo also snow removal (plow and salt spreader) i've been looking at Ford F-450 to the F-650 dump: chassie
any ideas???


Thanks!
Daniel

kubotab7200
03-23-2008, 12:10 AM
:gmctruck: USE GMC TRUCKS, THEY ARE THE BEST ON THE MARKET TRUST ME IVE TRYED THE OTHER ONES

stroker51
03-23-2008, 12:56 PM
I wouldn't get a 650, pulling a trailer you're probably gonna need a CDL. I've got an 89 FSuper Duty (F450) that we do basically waht youre talking about with, great truck has a dump and all. Just a question, why are you needing such a big truck? The only reason i have a 450 is because i bought it cheap, I would of been completely happy with an F350. Before I had the 450, i did every thing you want to do with my 96 F250 Powerstroke, and before that an 84 F250 with a 351 and 4 speed. I still pull everyday with the 250, just easier to get around with. Unless you are hauling a lot of rock, dirt, hardscape material, whatever, there really is no point in anything much bigger that a 3/4 ton, maybe a 1-ton just for versatility sake. How much money are you looking to spend?

ponyboy
03-23-2008, 01:26 PM
that is a big jump from a van to a 450 od 650. If looking new i owm all fords because they always give 0%intrest but would say go for a 4500 or a kodiack bulit better than a 450 it is a 6500 derated to a 4500 basically not a 250 bumped up to a 550. if you go used any f350 dump or f450 dump are fine stay away from 03 disels to many problems and chevy 3500 atr light duty compared to ford just my thoughts

Danielslawnservice
03-24-2008, 12:27 AM
I wouldn't get a 650, pulling a trailer you're probably gonna need a CDL. I've got an 89 FSuper Duty (F450) that we do basically waht youre talking about with, great truck has a dump and all. Just a question, why are you needing such a big truck? The only reason i have a 450 is because i bought it cheap, I would of been completely happy with an F350. Before I had the 450, i did every thing you want to do with my 96 F250 Powerstroke, and before that an 84 F250 with a 351 and 4 speed. I still pull everyday with the 250, just easier to get around with. Unless you are hauling a lot of rock, dirt, hardscape material, whatever, there really is no point in anything much bigger that a 3/4 ton, maybe a 1-ton just for versatility sake. How much money are you looking to spend?

the reason i want/need such a big truck is i also have to move farm equipment because i'm partnered w/ a guy who does farming. I would like to see how ford and dodge compare.

Danielslawnservice
03-24-2008, 12:32 AM
:gmctruck: USE GMC TRUCKS, THEY ARE THE BEST ON THE MARKET TRUST ME IVE TRYED THE OTHER ONES

hey
why?
what is ur basis?
why not ford or dodge?

thanks
dan

Scag48
03-24-2008, 12:38 AM
Gas is $4.00 a gallon, at least it will be by this summer, why throw away money driving around a 1 ton or larger truck? Let's not overthink this. Some guys just like to waste money, I understand that, but for pulling mowers you don't need anything over 3/4 ton. Pick a brand, they'll all get the job done.

I think you'd have to elaborate a little more on the farm equipment moving. It would be fairly pointelss to buy a huge truck to occasionally move farm equipment when all you'd need on a daily basis is a 3/4 ton or smaller truck.

TXNSLighting
03-24-2008, 09:20 AM
youd be fine with a 350. I doubt the farm equipment would call for a 450 or larger. and dont even think about a 650 for this biz. f-350's pull 20,000. that should be plenty.

Danielslawnservice
03-24-2008, 02:04 PM
how do dodge, ford, Chevy, and GMC compare???

thanks...

stroker51
03-24-2008, 04:20 PM
Everyone will have an opinion on this one, especially if you get on the Powerstroke topic, there is one member in particular (I think we all know who) who will have nothing but anti-powerstroke things to say. I myself have 2 powerstrokes, a 96 with 210,000 miles and a 99 with about 150,000, great trucks, not as much torque as the Dodge with a Cummins but for what I do i am perfectly happy with them. My cousin farms 1000+ acres and calves out some 200+ cows, he and his dad both have F250 Super Dutys, as well as a 97 F350 single wheel powerstroke with a bale bed, and a 93 F250 460 with a bale bed, they get by fine with these trucks farming everyday. I used to farm myself, and can see where a 350 would make sense, but unless you get a screaming deal on say a 450, it just doesn't make sense to get that big of a truck.

TXNSLighting
04-07-2008, 09:18 PM
dont really compare em. their all different. you just go drive em and pick the one that makes you happy in pants! ha!

02DURAMAX
04-07-2008, 09:47 PM
dont really compare em. their all different. you just go drive em and pick the one that makes you happy in pants! ha!

:laugh:..Yes Go test Drive Them..I Like GM..so don't ask me about ford or dodge.

packey
04-08-2008, 02:40 PM
The only guys i know of who farm and need larger than a 3/4 to 1 ton go all the way and jump clear to semi's/ this is because of the grain they haul and their combines. One of the other guys said unles you are pulling a monster swather or something like a challenger you do not need anything larger One of our friends up here who is in the haying business said stay with a good 4x4 3/4 ton unless you really need the duals in the rear then jump to a 1 ton. I have been doing this for a while and my 1 ton crew is up for sale it just not make sense in dollars right now to run it when only occasionally I want to haul a load of gravel or landscape rock. If you are looking for an older diesel stay with dodge or ford. If you want a gas burner go to a cheverolet. if you are looking at buying new then they are all pretty decent trucks just be forwarned the new 08 ford's are giving guys problems up here when plowing because the lack of traction. if you are going to plow with an 08 ford or newer you should want to put at least an 8 foot sander in the bed.

Blueribbonlawns
04-08-2008, 02:46 PM
Just get a dump insert in the truck so you dont ruin the whole thing

GSPHUNTER
04-08-2008, 02:47 PM
Unless IL farming is much different than MO farming you don't need anything more than a 350/3500.

Also, a 12x7 trailer is not big. I pulled around a 12x7 trailer with a Ranger for a full season before I got my 3/4 ton.

Skimastr105
04-08-2008, 04:06 PM
You don't need a 450 to pull around a 12x7 trailer. lol I would get a 3/4 ton gas or diesel - they're both good. I pulled a skid steer / tractor for a long time with my Dodge 2500... 360ci gas engine, and it did just fine. You could pull that lawn care setup with a ranger or f150 and be just fine - if you wanted.

1TN
04-08-2008, 10:06 PM
youd be fine with a 350. I doubt the farm equipment would call for a 450 or larger. and dont even think about a 650 for this biz. f-350's pull 20,000. that should be plenty.

When was the last time you were on the farm?? lol. Just kidding. You'd be surprised at how heavy and demanding farm equipment is these days!!

-mike

TXNSLighting
04-09-2008, 12:53 PM
When was the last time you were on the farm?? lol. Just kidding. You'd be surprised at how heavy and demanding farm equipment is these days!!

-mike

yeh i dont remember saying that... i know how heavy it is. but one tons pull alot more then they use to. but yeh 450's+ are needed on farms these days. not real sure what i as thinking when i said that ha!