Mahindra Tractors

[Don Woods]

Anyone operating Mahindra Tractors on job sites

[lawn king]

They are top-notch machines. If i had no access to kubota, they would be high on my list of alternative machines.

[coobie]

Anyone operating Mahindra Tractors on job sitesVery nice tractors IMHO,but there customer service at there main office Tomball Texas is lacking.:usflag:

[rcreech]

Think Service and RESALE!

My take:

Why spend that much on a tractor....when you can spend just a little more and get a "name brand" that has proven itself!

The Mahindra dealer that is closest to me sells them....but doesn't have a shop! That is crazy!

Go Orange or Green if you want the best tractor for your money!

[larryinalabama]

Mahindra are excellent tractors, all tractors are made overseas so theres reall no TRUE Green and the BLUE went to new hollsomething

[air2bmc]

Mahindra are excellent tractors, all tractors are made overseas so theres reall no TRUE Green and the BLUE went to new hollsomething

My John Deere 5205 was made in georgia:usflag: so yeah its a TRUE green tractor:)

[rcreech]

Mahindra are excellent tractors, all tractors are made overseas so theres reall no TRUE Green and the BLUE went to new hollsomething

I agree with you a little....but I think it is safe to say that there are a couple more John Deere dealers around then Mahindra dealers.

So if you need a part, lets see how long it takes you to get it or find it. Or even finding someone to work on it!

That is all I am saying!

[big_country]

My John Deere 5205 was made in georgia:usflag: so yeah its a TRUE green tractor:)

What kind of engine is in your deere? More than likely its a yanmar.

[rcreech]

Big Country,

You wouldn't happen to be from Red Hat Kentucky would you?

[larryinalabama]

What kind of engine is in your deere? More than likely its a yanmar.

Green tractors are good, however the only thing they do to them in Georgia is screw the fenders on. Deere just bought out a Chinese tractor company so look for Green to come from China.

[air2bmc]

What kind of engine is in your deere? More than likely its a yanmar.

Nope its a john deere powertech

[J&A Lawn Care]

John Deere doesn't make anything there selfs that is under 50hp.I myself wouldn't buy a Deere only cause they are priced way above most of the other tractors.

[air2bmc]

John Deere doesn't make anything there selfs that is under 50hp.I myself wouldn't buy a Deere only cause they are priced way above most of the other tractors.

My tractor is 56hp

[Maple Groundskeeping]

While tractor shopping a few years ago, we looked at nearly all makes of tractors. Our specs were 30 - 40 hp, reliability, parts avalability and price with 4wd a must. We ended up with a John Deere 3203, 32hp yanmar, hydrastatic trans and a 300 quick attach loader for under 17k. I have a koyker 660 backhoe that i use on it that is a hell of a digger. We have 50hp plus tractors for large jobs but 9 times outa 10 we take the little deere, and if you have not used a hydo it is light years ahead of a stick for landscape and genral utility work, it may not be as strong as a stick but for loading, unloading or moving material its fantastic.

[nosparkplugs]

John deere's are made in USA, while the Yanmar diesel options are made overseas. I have a friend who swears buy his mihandria tractor, and got an enclosed cab for the price savings,compared to Kubota or JD tractor.

[rcreech]

John deere's are made in USA, while the Yanmar diesel options are made overseas. I have a friend who swears buy his mihandria tractor, and got an enclosed cab for the price savings,compared to Kubota or JD tractor.


Wait til he goes to sell it! :laugh:

[DRM Ventures]

Do people really buy equipment for it's re-sale value.......I hope not.........

[rcreech]

I know I do!

You get what you pay for!

Why buy a "cheaper" tractor to save a couple grand because it will cost you in the long run unless you never plan on selling it!

Also...you typically get a much better tractor (comfort, service, parts availabilty, service, etc).

I think a person should always look at resale value when making a large purchase!

Seen this too many times:

Take the same hours on a tractor and this is what you will usually find!
New John Deere/Kutota or other name brands New $20,000 Resale $15,000
Other "off brand" Tractor New 18,000 Resale $9,000

That just shows me to spend the money up front!

Do you think a Mahindra will keep up with a JD or Kubota on resale?

[DRM Ventures]

Do you think resale value has anything to do with the name on the product....? I do... I was recently at a dealer that sells Mahindra, JD and MF and he said he is selling Mahindra 2:1 over the other brands. Apparently they are are good product....and he said he has been selling them for 10 years and is getting people coming back to buy the second Mahindra.......

Finally there is no quarrenty that you are going to get the stated resale value when you go to sell..... So if the product is well built and reliable I will save the "for sure" money up front, rather than buy based on a possibility of a better resale value. I tend to always sell at a lower price anyway because I want to move the stuff......If I can get double the trade in value I am happy......

[lawn king]

Im getting my new tractor this week, yes another kubota, yes its a factory cab model, yes it was expensive. I did however sell my 2005 kubota B3030 for almost 20 grand, without too much effort. I looked at a few others, but no manufacturer has anything even close to the transmission technology kubota has developed for the new grand L. The hydrostat plus is amazing! A 3 range tranny with high low in each that you can shift manually (on the fly) or let the load sensing shift for you, Stall guard for heavy loader work, auto throttle for transport and the crem dela crem, hydrostat responce. You can adjust the responce of the hsd pedal from very gradual to instant!

[rcreech]

[QUOTE=DRM Ventures;2280071]I was recently at a dealer that sells Mahindra, JD and MF and he said he is selling Mahindra 2:1 over the other brands.

QUOTE]

EXACTLY!

They are cheap!

They are selling a lot of John Deere's MTD model at Lowes also but you get what you pay for!

They are also cheap also, but when you go to sell them they are not worth a dime!

I am not knocking cheap tractors...I am just saying that if I am going to buy something I will spend a little more up front for the "creature comforts" and get more on the back side.

[coobie]

[QUOTE=DRM Ventures;2280071]I was recently at a dealer that sells Mahindra, JD and MF and he said he is selling Mahindra 2:1 over the other brands.

QUOTE]

EXACTLY!

They are cheap!

They are selling a lot of John Deere's MTD model at Lowes also but you get what you pay for!

They are also cheap also, but when you go to sell them they are not worth a dime!

I am not knocking cheap tractors...I am just saying that if I am going to buy something I will spend a little more up front for the "creature comforts" and get more on the back side.Not really cheaply made like some of the compact deeres I looked at,made out of plastic hoods and fenders.At least Mahindra,Kioti and Kubota have metal hoods and fenders.:clapping:

[rcreech]

[QUOTE=rcreech;2281521]Not really cheaply made like some of the compact deeres I looked at,made out of plastic hoods and fenders.At least Mahindra,Kioti and Kubota have metal hoods and fenders.:clapping:


There is nothing wrong with a plastic hood!

Heck.....You can't buy a combine or 250 hp tractor anymore with a metal hood and they are $200,000....so what's your point!

When I talk quality I am talking engines, transmissions etc.

The important stuff isn't what you see on the outside (hood, fenders etc), it is what is under it that matters! :weightlifter:

[coobie]

[QUOTE=coobie;2282411]


There is nothing wrong with a plastic hood!

Heck.....You can't buy a combine or 250 hp tractor anymore with a metal hood and they are $200,000....so what's your point!

When I talk quality I am talking engines, transmissions etc.

The important stuff isn't what you see on the outside (hood, fenders etc), it is what is under it that matters! :weightlifter:
My point is have you ever test drove or looked at 40Hp Mahindra or Kioti tractor.I have and they are a heavy duty built tractors.Compare the weights of deere in the 40 hp range to the Kioti and mahindra.I have compared alxes,engines.Did you know that mahindra bought part of international harverster in 1963,they also helped make the willys jeep in world war 2.I would say they are here to stay in the tractor market.Do some research,you might be suprised.I guess some folks are just closed minded when it come to John deere,New holland,Case,Kubota,Ford,Chevy,Dodge.:hammerhead:Its all about personal perference.coobie:usflag:

[cutbetterthanyou]

I have a 2615 mahindra it is four or five years old with 500 hours on it. Although that is not alot of hours all that i replaced was a battery and glow plug and let me say i am hard on stuff. I also price shoped and the tractor with bushog, box blade, and frontend loader was 16 while the comparable jd was 25, and the kubota was like 18-19 (not positive been a while).In my opinion the otheir 2 didn't seem any better built if anything i felt like the jd seemed cheap i didn't even try it out, and the kubota i wasn't that interested because of the dealer (not good service), but seemed like a well built machine. You may check out new holland they seem well built as well i just dont have a dealer close. I think they run good rate sometime to. I can't really see where you can go wrong with the mahindra though

[milkie62]

I checked out a 40 hp range mahindra and could not believe how heavy built the front axle was.Also the overall wt was nearly 6000 lbs.No tractor in that hp range weighs that much.I did see mahindra did build some willys jeeps in wwII so I guess they have been around awhile.

[Country]

I used to be a Deere man (still am as far as antique stuff goes), but JD quality has gone way down and the price keeps going up! It's sad to say the least. I had to got Orange on my last purchase and I'm glad I did.

[lawn king]

Anything 40 hp and under, kubota is the highest quality, no doubt about it!

[Country]

Anything 40 hp and under, kubota is the highest quality, no doubt about it! 2x that!!!

[lawnspecialties]

I'd put my New Holland TC-33DA up against any comparable sized tractor out there any day.

But that being said, if I had to buy another anytime soon, I'd look at Mahindra again and would seriously consider Kioti. For the money, you get a lot for what you pay.:)

[coobie]

I'd put my New Holland TC-33DA up against any comparable sized tractor out there any day.

But that being said, if I had to buy another anytime soon, I'd look at Mahindra again and would seriously consider Kioti. For the money, you get a lot for what you pay.:)
I priced & quality shopped for almost 6 months.I looked at many 40-42 hp tractors, Mahindra,Kubota,new holland,John deere,Kioti and a few others,it came down to 3 tractors the mahindra 4110,kubota grand L 4240 and Kioti 40 DK 40se.I ended buying the Kioti and have no regrets yet.:drinkup:I say do your homework and choose what tractor is correct for you with good dealer support in your area.:)

[milkie62]

I am in the looking stages for a new tractor.The only problem is I am looking for is parts availability down the road.Right now I am running a 1958 Massey 65 and Most parts are still available either factory or aftermarket.Most of my equipment is geared for this size tractor.I am a deere man but the price is up there.Mahindra is a good contender but I am worried about parts.From what I see according to specs a Bradco backhoe is the best there is

[Plumberbutt]

I have a 7520 Mahindra with loader and front assist. I have a small acrage and I really LOVE my Mahindra. I do NOT have a problem in the winter with it starting and has done everything I have ever wanted it to do. I have used it like a bulldozer and dug soil out of the ditch for the county, really my yard with their permission, and it performed great. Don't be afraid of the Mahindra. I am a John Deere guy, but my closest dealer was a Mahindra dealer and he sells a bunch of them. I still like John Deere, but I really feel that the Mahindra brand are heavier built for the horsepower size. This is my second Mahindra, my first was a 6500 and only traded it because of the larger horsepower and the control set-up. Good luck in your decision and if you go with Mahindra, I think you'll be very happy.

[rcreech]

I am surprised to hear the Kioti and Mahindra support on here. I always seen the ads in the magazines and wondered who bought them!

I have a Kubota and love it....but now I also have a Deere and it is freak'n awesome!

I am not truely comparing apples to apples as my Kubota was a little smaller...but my Deere has so much more power and the COMFORT is 10 times better with the Deere. When I get off my Deere now and get on the Kubota, I can't believe the difference!

I would never buy anything but a Deere or a Kubota personally as the "off brands" don't fly in this neck of the woods!

I would definilty get made fun of.....just like I would make fun of anyone around here who got one!

You get what you pay for!

[fool32696]

rcreech, go play with your Deere and leave these guys alone. Obviously they're happy with their machines and could care less about your worthless opinions.

[DK35vince]

I am surprised to hear the Kioti and Mahindra support on here. I always seen the ads in the magazines and wondered who bought them!
I did !!
Would do it again too. 1100 problem free hours on my DK 35.
I would never buy anything but a Deere or a Kubota personally as the "off brands" don't fly in this neck of the woods!

I would definilty get made fun of.....just like I would make fun of anyone around here who got one!

Make fun all you want.
Doesn't change the fact that I got an excellant machine for the $$.

[rcreech]

rcreech, go play with your Deere and leave these guys alone. Obviously they're happy with their machines and could care less about your worthless opinions.

Worthless opinions? :laugh:

So I am not entitled to my opinion?

I am not saying that these tractors are not good machines!

I am just saying that I have compared many tractors, and all I can say it these machines are CHEAP horsepower.....but they don't have the creature comforts and the other things I like.

I also farm and I would compare Mahinda and the others to Massey Ferguson on the Ag side. Yes they were a "good buy" and cheap horses....but very few people ran them!

This is just my take....so no need to get pissed. I just have never seen one being used! I have only seen them at shows!

[DK35vince]

I am just saying that I have compared many tractors, and all I can say it these machines are CHEAP horsepower.....but they don't have the creature comforts and the other things I like.
By creature comforts I assume you mean things like 4 wheel drive, power steering, tilt steering, rubber floor mat, foldable ROPS, suspension seat, draft and position control, rear hydraulic remotes, telescopic 3point hitch arms, telescopic stabalizer arms, lever on rear to control 3 point hitch for easier hookup, grill guard, push button four wheel drive, independant PTO, wet disc brakes, skid steer style Quick attach on the loaders.
Last I looked this was all standard equipment on all Kioti DK models.
Perhaps you can explain to me what your machine came with as standard equipment that these machine don't have?

[dbear]

By creature comforts I assume you mean things like 4 wheel drive, power steering, tilt steering, rubber floor mat, foldable ROPS, suspension seat, draft and position control, rear hydraulic remotes, telescopic 3point hitch arms, telescopic stabalizer arms, lever on rear to control 3 point hitch for easier hookup, grill guard, push button four wheel drive, independant PTO, wet disc brakes, skid steer style Quick attach on the loaders.
Last I looked this was all standard equipment on all Kioti DK models.
Perhaps you can explain to me what your machine came with as standard equipment that these machine don't have?

Maybe a cup holder and cigarette lighter?

[DK35vince]

Maybe a cup holder and cigarette lighter?
No, the DK models have a cup holder. Standard equipment

[dbear]

No, the DK models have a cup holder. Standard equipment

Damn!

How about the cigarette lighter?

There's gotta be a reason for JD's higher cost other than the green paint.

[DK35vince]

Damn!

How about the cigarette lighter?

There's gotta be a reason for JD's higher cost other than the green paint.
You got me there. No cigarette lighter.

[Grass Happens]

wasn't there a time in the not to distant past when kubota was considered an off brand? back when it was thought the Japanese couldn't build anything of quality? :)

[lawnspecialties]

Once again, coming from a New Holland man...

First figure up a price you can live with and stick to that. Then look at the specs of the most expensive models under your limit. I'll bet you the vast majority of the time, Kioti will give you the most performance for the money.

[milkie62]

If I could buy a brand new MF 65 today,I would not hesitate.I runs and runs and runs.I can't wait till I get the time to restore it.

[hornett22]

we use it for our tree service and landscaping service.excellent machine.looked at JD and their prices are way out of line and it didn't have the lift capacity or the weight.not to mention the center of gravity is too high.they also wanted to only sell me their over priced attachments.i like Kubotas and always have but the dealer here is to arrogant for my taste.Kioti is an excellent machine as well.

i believe Mahindra is close to being or is the largest tractor manufacturer in the world.

my engine and trans are made by Mitsubishi and everything else seems to be made here in the states.the tractor has been great and the dealer is as well.very honest and friendly.

best attachment i have is the 54" grapple from WR Long Inc.

JD's parts availability isn't that great.my buddies 4600 blew a steering ram on a big job.closest one was in Springfield Vt so we made a road trip.no one around Hartford CT had it and JD has admitted this is a poor design.you'd think they would stock the part for something that fails often.good luck getting hydraulic fittings for a JD.oh yeah,you can get them at the dealer,after they order them.

nothing runs like a deere or smells like a john.

[rcreech]

i believe Mahindra is close to being or is the largest tractor manufacturer in the world.

.

I think this may be a little far fetched!

Did your Mahindra dealer tell you that? :laugh:

No seriously, where did you hear that?

[Grass Happens]

Why far fetched? it is based in the second most populous nation on the planet, and combined with a strong western heritage gained from being a British crown colony and a massive export market, it makes sense that it could be. BTW, it looks like they will be selling a pickup in the states before to long...

[hornett22]

I think this may be a little far fetched!

Did your Mahindra dealer tell you that? :laugh:

No seriously, where did you hear that?

do a google search.maybe you can prove them wrong and sue them for false advertising.

[dbear]

I think this may be a little far fetched!

Did your Mahindra dealer tell you that? :laugh:

No seriously, where did you hear that?

Here's a link may prove useful:

Mahindra History (http://http://www.mahindrausa.com/company.php)

Look under the "OVER ONE MILLION SERVED" banner and you'll notice "...Mahindra has been the number one selling brand since 1983."

[rcreech]

Here's a link may prove useful:

Mahindra History (http://http://www.mahindrausa.com/company.php)

Look under the "OVER ONE MILLION SERVED" banner and you'll notice "...Mahindra has been the number one selling brand since 1983."

You MIGHT want to read the fine print my friend!

#1 Selling tractor in India! :clapping: I could care less what people buy in India.

I looked into this last night actually....and yes India does have the largest tractor production (which I was surpised)....but that is all the makes together, not just Mahindra as you make it sound!

It says Mahindra "ranks among the largest tractor companies" and "In India, the largerst tractor manufacturer in the world, Mahindra has been the number one selling brand since 1983..... IN INDIA!:clapping: Not the US!!!

I don't care what sells best in India!

This is straight from the site:

Today M&M ranks among the largest tractor companies in the world with sales of nearly 85,000 units annually in 10 countries. In India, the largest tractor market in the world, Mahindra has been the number one selling brand since 1983.

Also, for your reading enjoyment, here is the history of India tractor production. Their productino numbers to make them the largest tractor manufacture include John Deere, New Holland and many other makes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractors_in_India

[rcreech]

I tried hard to find out John Deeres production numbers and couldn't even find them.

I guess they don't have to try and convince people that they are selling tractors.

I GUARANTEE, that Mahindra doesn't sell more tractors then Deere does!

Prove me wrong on this one!

I am sure that Mahindra is the number one seller in INDIA, but we are talking about the good o'l USA!

[rcreech]

do a google search.maybe you can prove them wrong and sue them for false advertising.

They are not false advertising...you are!

See my posts.

India is the top tractor manufacturer in the world, but that is a total of all the tractors they manufacture (including John Deere, New Holland and many other makes). Mahindra is just one of the makes!

Yes Mahindra is their number one seller in India, but your comment about Mahindra being the largest tractor manufacturer I believe is inacurate.

[rcreech]

Sorry to keep posting...but you guys just tickled me when you thought that Mahindra was the largest tractor product in the WORLD!

Anyway...here is a some info for you.

Info is from 2006, but this is all they have.

JD produced 241,000 units in 2006, and their sales have been through the roof since then so hard telling what they are producing now, but Mahindra says they only produce 85,000 units a year.

Just wanted to put this to rest! Here is the report.

Enjoy!

http://johndeere.com/en_US/investinfo/media/pdf/factbook/2006/2006_factbook_tractorcombine.pdf

[hornett22]

Mahindra must be just as good and JD has no excuse for their obnoxious prices.

[Merlin300]

Somebody drinks alot of green Kool-Aid..... When it comes to tractors, I think dealer support is just as important as the color of the machine. I like my Kool-Aid orange.

[milkie62]

I have a MF 65 vintage 1959 and a Kubota DT305 vintage 1981.I have been kicking tires the last 4 yrs on another tractor.I started on the NH (forgot the model #) ,Kubota M5000 I think and a JD 5205.My Massey is roughly 4600 lbs plus calcium.What I needed was power in the Massey range since all my implements are geared to that,and cannot afford to reimplement.Well the Massey has a 176ci gas engine.The Kubota was out because of smaller engine as was the NH.The 5205 had same size engine but diesel.One JD dealer told me it was a hell of a tractor for the price,another dealer said it was rough around the edges and suggested the similar size in another series with operator flat platform.A loader is necessary as is a remote off the back to operate a cement mixer and power rake.Seen the Mahindra and the front end was the most massive of all brands.I have done my homework and still kicking tires.I am looking for something that my son who is 16 will still beable to hopefully get parts for when he is 50.Still kicking tires at all the county fairs.Also do not want a turbo---just something else to go wrong down the road.Looked at Challenger----almost junk in the compact series.The black plastic around the guages gets all chalky white on a 2004 rental I seen.So those would need alot of care and armor all and constant garaging to keep them looking decent.Still kicking tires ...........................

[rcreech]

Mahindra must be just as good and JD has no excuse for their obnoxious prices.

Keep telling yourself that!

So are you saying that if two products are manufactured in the US by two totally differet suppliers that the quality it the same?

You can not compare two product because they are made in the same county! :dizzy: You are really grasping for straws there buddy!

JD is designed and engineered by JD and just built over there.

BTW....I don't drink Green Kool-Aid, as I also have a Kubota B3030 and LOVE it!

I was just trying to make a point to the guys that actually thought that Mahindra was a player in the world tractor market!

Again...I am not sayting that Mahindra is not a good piece of equipment, I am just saying that when it comes to JD there is a reason that I will pay more! To me saving $5,000 isn't enough to buy a Mahindra. Now, if I could buy one for half the price of a Deere I would MAYBE think about it, but would have to think hard!

[hornett22]

i see there dealerships all over the place.i see a lot more brands running around than i do JD. JDs must all be owned by homeowners because all the working guys i see on the road are Kubota.the rental yards rent Kubota.i know one guy that works with a JD.the rest use another brand.


i think someone is slipping you green Kool-Aid,LOL. i saved A LOT more than $5k

[dbear]

Again...I am not sayting that Mahindra is not a good piece of equipment, I am just saying that when it comes to JD there is a reason that I will pay more! To me saving $5,000 isn't enough to buy a Mahindra. Now, if I could buy one for half the price of a Deere I would MAYBE think about it, but would have to think hard!

And JD thanks you for your steadfast loyalty...

[Country]

India is the top tractor manufacturer in the world, but that is a total of all the tractors they manufacture (including John Deere, New Holland and many other makes). Mahindra is just one of the makes!

That's one of the reasons I went away from Deere and got a Kubota. Kubota doesn't try to hide the fact that their made in Japan (which in my opinion is a lot better than being made in India...). JD still wants everyone to think their stuff is made in the US. Kubota makes all their own parts. JD, on their compact tractors, out source a lot of components. What's going to happen 20, 30, 40 or 50 years down the road when one or some of those out sourced component company's out of business??? An I'm not talking about small stuff like electrical components. I'm talking front axle, tranny, engine.... If you think about it the whole thing isn't even a Deere. It's just a bunch of pieces they bought and assembled and they're trying to use their name to hold it all together.... Sad...:nono:

By the way I love my L3710 Kubota. I put it though the rinnger and it always comes back for more!

[hornett22]

i'm just playing you like the fiddle you are.just like i do the Stihl and Exmark guys.i get pure and clean entertainment from it.

JD makes some great machines.i still like the 950.my buddy has a 4600 and an 855.both nice machines but he bought them used like anyone should.

you can laugh at Mahindra all you want but i got a great tractor at a great price and even my JD buddy requests it on tree jobs because of the grapple and it's easy on lawns.it's actually made by Mitsubishi in Japan.i think they have been making tractors long enough to prove they will be around a while.

i have a friend in Tennessee who dropped Mitsubishi tractors at his dealership because once he sold them,he never saw them again.said the owners would come in for filters once in a while but never for parts or repairs.he couldn't make any money.he even kept one for himself.

[rcreech]

You are not playing anyone...trust me!

You just stated that Mahindra was one of the LARGEST tractor manufactures in the WORLD....so I wanted to make sure and CORRECT you.

Considering you are in CT and not from farm country that must be why you say that about JD.

Funny thing is....I am not a BIG JD man at all. Yes I have one and also farm with JD, but I am not married to them. I just like their stuff. I also have a Kubota and love it.

I was just trying to let you know where Mahindra stood as far a production numbers vs. the BIG PLAYERS.

Obviously John Deere making tractors over 400HP and being one of the combine leaders isn't just being bought by homeowners.

It must be where you live as JD, Kubota, Case and a few NH is all you will find in this neck of the woods.


I am not going to argue what is best, because that just comes down to personal preference and expectations of the owner. I will just say that I have VERY HIGH expectations!

[lawnspecialties]

Has anyone noticed the new tractor Bobcat is offering this year? It sure does look like a white Kioti CK. :nono:

[milkie62]

I had my JD dealer tell me that Kubota is the only manufacturer that does not show up at the Nebraska test site where they do the actual H.P. testing and draw bar pull. HHMMMMM.

[rcreech]

That's one of the reasons I went away from Deere and got a Kubota. Kubota doesn't try to hide the fact that their made in Japan (which in my opinion is a lot better than being made in India...). JD still wants everyone to think their stuff is made in the US. Kubota makes all their own parts. JD, on their compact tractors, out source a lot of components. What's going to happen 20, 30, 40 or 50 years down the road when one or some of those out sourced component company's out of business??? An I'm not talking about small stuff like electrical components. I'm talking front axle, tranny, engine.... If you think about it the whole thing isn't even a Deere. It's just a bunch of pieces they bought and assembled and they're trying to use their name to hold it all together.... Sad...:nono:



By the way I love my L3710 Kubota. I put it though the rinnger and it always comes back for more!

Sure it is a Deere! It doesn't matter where the parts are from or where it is assembled! If it is designed and built to "Deere" specs, is green and has their name on it, then that is what it is!

I have to agree with you that Kubota makes some good stuff! I love my B3030 also!

Good luck finding anything that isn't assembled from all over the world!

In this day and age, everyone is trying to do this to save money!

Heck, my Chevy truck as more foreign parts in it then a Toyota does!

I know the parts for my 6420 and 3520 may not be from the US....but it is assembled in the US, so I am sure their Quality Control in very through!

[Country]

If it is designed and built to "Deere" specs, is green and has their name on it, then that is what it is! Only the hood and fenders are green. Everything else is black..... I'm not say it isn't a Deere. Just not the same quality that the original John Deere name was built on....
Just my opinion...


Good luck finding anything that isn't assembled from all over the world! KUBOTA..... But I agree with ya, that's a tough one...

[Merlin300]

I had my JD dealer tell me that Kubota is the only manufacturer that does not show up at the Nebraska test site where they do the actual H.P. testing and draw bar pull. HHMMMMM.

I had a manager a McDonalds tell me, they make a better burger than Wendy's. YMMV

[rcreech]

Only the hood and fenders are green. Everything else is black..... I'm not say it isn't a Deere. Just not the same quality that the original John Deere name was built on....
Just my opinion...


KUBOTA..... But I agree with ya, that's a tough one...


I do think that Kubota is hard to beat!

I only got my green tractor (3520) here recently because I needed a "medium" size tractor as going from the B to the L was too big of a jump for me size wise.

I seed a lot of small lawns and I didn't want to try and turn a L around in a 5-10K lawn.

Anyway, I had to go with the 3520 and I still have my B3030. This is just an example, but I farm and have a lot of barn area and areas I bushog and I always used the B3030 and now that I have the Deere, I don't use the B3030 anymore strictly from a "comfort" stance. The Deere is VERY comfortable from the seat and even though not compraring apples to apples (30hp to 37hp) the Deere has unbelievealbe power.

Again, I love Kubota and have both machines so I can actually compare them. Now if I had an L it would probably be a more fair comparison.

[milkie62]

Don't get me wrong I have a DT305 Kubota and it is great for what it is.But one big problem with it is it has to small of an engine for the size of the tractor.It is a 1980 tractor I think.Anyway it is a Ford 8n size tractor with a 79 ci engine.Way to small.It would be great with something in the 110-120 ci range.I am still kicking tires till I find an equal to my MF 65 tractor.Deere,Kubota,NH,and Mahindra are all contenders.

[hobson5]

Mahindra are excellent tractors, all tractors are made overseas so theres reall no TRUE Green and the BLUE went to new hollsomething

Let me give you info from our experience! my husband bought a mahindra tractor several months ago.. it has been sent back to our local dealer here in mississippi to be worked on 4 times.. each time it comes back it isn't fixed, simply because they don't have anyone that knows how to work on it! we are very disatisfied.. they keep putting us off, telling us that the manager will be out in the next 30 days to see exactly what it needs.. well those 30 days have come & gone and we haven't seen or heard from a soul.. it's been hydraulic problems, leaks, etc.. my husband even told them that it needs a hydraulic pump & they won't put one on.. they are putting us off & they are about to find out who they are dealing with!!

[Blunt]

i did some checking and found out mahindra has 65000 employees at numerous factories world wide so its probably not as off brand as many would like to make out. Tractors are a small part of their operation.

[rcreech]

i did some checking and found out mahindra has 65000 employees at numerous factories world wide so its probably not as off brand as many would like to make out. Tractors are a small part of their operation.

I don't think it is fair to say that Mahinda is an off brand (I think it is the big seller in INDIA)...but I think it is VERY fair to say that it is an off brand or a lower seller in the US!

So do you determine a companies success by the amount of employees it has? :laugh:

Mahinda ONLY make 85,000 tractors a year and it takes 65,000 people to do it!

So you think this is a good thing?

Why did you even bring this post back up?

With mechanization today....I would say that the larger the Co the less employees it will have due to robots and technology!

Considering the amount of tractors that Mahindra makes compared to the larger Co's I would say that they must have ALL manual labor!

Again, the amount of employees don't mean jack!

[coobie]

So you determine a companies success by the amount of employees it has? :laugh:

Why did you even bring this post back up?

With mechanization today....I would say that the larger the Co...the less employees it will have due to robots and technology!

Considering the amount of tractors that Mahindra makes compared to the larger Co's I would say that they must have ALL manual labor!

Again, the amount of employees don't mean jack to me!:nono::nono: The tractor police are watching.Why can,t folks bring up old posts in which to discuss tractors?:confused:

[rcreech]

I guess I did forget to turn my lights on didn't I? :laugh:

This was a funny post! We might as well keep it going!

[coobie]

I guess I did forget to turn my lights on didn't I? :laugh:

This was a funny post! We might as well keep it going!
Your a good man,at least you have a sense of humor.:laugh:coobie

[Blunt]

I don't think it is fair to say that Mahinda is an off brand (I think it is the big seller in INDIA)...but I think it is VERY fair to say that it is an off brand or a lower seller in the US!

So do you determine a companies success by the amount of employees it has? :laugh:

Mahinda ONLY make 85,000 tractors a year and it takes 65,000 people to do it!

So you think this is a good thing?

Why did you even bring this post back up?

With mechanization today....I would say that the larger the Co the less employees it will have due to robots and technology!

Considering the amount of tractors that Mahindra makes compared to the larger Co's I would say that they must have ALL manual labor!

Again, the amount of employees don't mean jack!

65000 employees and 2,426,000,105.93 us dollars after conversion in net profits for 2007. Wish i could have a small company like that of my own. Go to mahindra.com for info. They do a lot more than tractors. The point being they will probably be around a while for parts and service and have the money to design a tractor that can compete with anybody.

[Grass Happens]

I think the 65000 includes everyone, like the car and truck division, clerical/office staff, etc. Not to mention, 65000 in India is nothing, they probably have to hire that many by law...

[rcreech]

I think the 65000 includes everyone, like the car and truck division, clerical/office staff, etc. Not to mention, 65000 in India is nothing, they probably have to hire that many by law...

Yes I looked and they are the #1 vehicle manufacturer!

This has nothing to do with their tractor quality.

I am a big GM man and they have (or did have) 1000's and 1000's of employees.

They are now closing all the plants down for several reasons!

Again, the amount of employees says nothing to me about a Co.

It is quality, dependability and market share that matters here in the US and as far as I can see Mahindra hasn't put a shadow on any of the three!

[TomberLawn]

rcreech, you can't argue that Deere quality is what it used to be. From what I've seen of Deere and the competition, I doubt that I'll ever own another piece of JD equipment. I was raised on green by the local farmers, but I'm learning there are better things out there in just about every product category JD has. My dad had a 3320 for less than a year and we traded it for a Case IH DX35 tractor. 2 more horsepower, but twice as much tractor. The features and strength don't even begin to compare.

I would buy a Mahindra in a heartbeat since I have a great local dealer. That's what really matters. If you buy a JD, you'd better have a good dealer, because you're going to need it. My grandfather's 3320 with a cab has had the entire engine replaced with less than 200 hours! And now the a/c hardly works because the condenser is so small and gets clogged with dust easily. At first the dealer told him he didn't clean it out enough and it was his fault the air didn't work. Now, the dealer is admitting that they've had other problems with air and the design in flawed. It only takes about 15 minutes to stop up the condenser enough that the air stops working. This is just one example of Deere falling down on quality.

It doesn't pay to trust one manufacturer too much. John Deere has done a good job of building customer loyalty. They used to make good stuff, but now they are not market leaders (according to Lexion's definition--not necessarily the most units sold, but the highest quality units sold). It's really sad to see a good company go downhill like this. It's even sadder to see people let them get away with it--every time you pay a premium for that green paint, you tell them you don't care what they produce, as long as it says John Deere on the side of the hood.

Even our local JD dealer has brought in numerous other lines of equipment just to keep customers satisfied with quality equipment, even if the brand isn't the biggest in the world. Claas forage choppers, Lexion combines, Ferris mowers, and probably soon a different line of sprayers are all at the local dealer. Deere hates it, but can't change it. The dealer told them that if they would make a better combine, mower, chopper, sprayer, etc, he would carry them, but he has an obligation to his customers to deliver quality, no matter what color it is.

[rcreech]

rcreech, you can't argue that Deere quality is what it used to be. From what I've seen of Deere and the competition, I doubt that I'll ever own another piece of JD equipment. I was raised on green by the local farmers, but I'm learning there are better things out there in just about every product category JD has. My dad had a 3320 for less than a year and we traded it for a Case IH DX35 tractor. 2 more horsepower, but twice as much tractor. The features and strength don't even begin to compare.

I would buy a Mahindra in a heartbeat since I have a great local dealer. That's what really matters. If you buy a JD, you'd better have a good dealer, because you're going to need it. My grandfather's 3320 with a cab has had the entire engine replaced with less than 200 hours! And now the a/c hardly works because the condenser is so small and gets clogged with dust easily. At first the dealer told him he didn't clean it out enough and it was his fault the air didn't work. Now, the dealer is admitting that they've had other problems with air and the design in flawed. It only takes about 15 minutes to stop up the condenser enough that the air stops working. This is just one example of Deere falling down on quality.

It doesn't pay to trust one manufacturer too much. John Deere has done a good job of building customer loyalty. They used to make good stuff, but now they are not market leaders (according to Lexion's definition--not necessarily the most units sold, but the highest quality units sold). It's really sad to see a good company go downhill like this. It's even sadder to see people let them get away with it--every time you pay a premium for that green paint, you tell them you don't care what they produce, as long as it says John Deere on the side of the hood.

Even our local JD dealer has brought in numerous other lines of equipment just to keep customers satisfied with quality equipment, even if the brand isn't the biggest in the world. Claas forage choppers, Lexion combines, Ferris mowers, and probably soon a different line of sprayers are all at the local dealer. Deere hates it, but can't change it. The dealer told them that if they would make a better combine, mower, chopper, sprayer, etc, he would carry them, but he has an obligation to his customers to deliver quality, no matter what color it is.


I wouldn't say that it's "lower quality" but if you are talking about companies making everything cheaper I would limit this just to John Deere! EVERY company is this way.

GM, Frigidare, home builders, any equipment, etc etc. I don't think you can say that just one Co is making them cheaper!


I can tell you though that you get what you pay for, and I would rather buy a John Deere at todays quality then one of the "new" US market tractors.

I hate it that the 3320 had to have an engine replaced after 200 hours, but there are lemons in every market. Comparing JD and Case to me is comparing apples to apples. They are both great companies.

I also farm and any my family has been all Case since they started farming (over 60 years)...but I can tell you that after we got our first JD (6420) we couldn't believe the difference. I really like Case, but I think JD is build a little better when in comes the especially the trans.

I can promise you this....you can't get people to pay more for something then what it is worth. Although there is always some pride involved, there also has to be a value and ROI!

I think a person needs to buy on what they need and as you said SERVICE. I think you are wrong about JD's needing service becuase if they got worked on as much as you say then they wouldn't sell any of them.

All tractors need worked on eventually, but I can tell you from my farm and lawncare service and all my neighbors that use Deere, we have very little problems with them.


I had a Kubota before my JD3520 and actaully still have it. It is an awesome tractor, but I needed a bigger horse.
Again I think comparing JD and Kubota is comparing apples to apples, but I can tell you that from not only POWER but also CREATURE COMFORTS...JD has them hands down! And again, I love my Kubota.