Local Dixie Dealer very unhappy with Dixie

[Mark]

Talked to the only Dixie Dealer in town today on the phone asking him how the Dixies where selling. He explained to me that he was no longer ordering from the company, He flat out told me that Dixie was the most screwed up company he had ever delt with. He would have a mower sold and they would trun=around and give it to a different dealer one who they know better, The reps where terrible,parts where a nightmare to get in. He sold 9 early this season and the ones with problems just had to sit a wait for there repairs. He would loan them one of his Danes which he also sells, he is a very fine man and knows more about lawn-mowers than anyone ive ever seen, he also said that the company is having big problems Family wise. It is a darn shame to because he is such a great dealer, and was going to work out a deal with me next season on a Chopper, but i take him at his word for he is a man who's faith in the Lord is first in his life, I hope there other dealers don't come down with the same ordeal. Marks Mowing Service

[odin]

I dont know about dealer and factory problems but the one we got in sept is the best cutting mower we have and i have nothing but praise for my dealer.and as soon as we can afford it we are gonna get another one. We havent had to get parts or had any breakdowns , so i cant speak on that subject but im sure eric will weight on all this

[lawrence stone]

Originally posted by Mark
but i take him at his word for he is a man who's faith in the Lord is first in his life,

Exactly what does the lord have to do with commercial ride on lawnmowers?

Does god make these machines?

Your message looked quite credible at first but then when you closed with the above you lost all credibility as some bible-thumping fundamentalist.

Here is the way it works in the real world. The lord does not give and take way, the federal government does.

[Runner]

I believe he was just stating that fact as an example to show he (the dealer) is a man of integrity.

[awm]

keep telling your self that brother stone

[gorrell]

Mark, sorry for your bad vibes with DC. Get a new dealer asap and I guarantee you'll get rid of your machinations real quick. Dixie Chopper is definitely not a bad company to deal with, other wise I would not own 5 dixie choppers, and I've owned a LOT of lawn mowers since I've been in business...............Lynn

[kutnkru]

Originally posted by Mark
... but i take him at his word for he is a man who's faith in the Lord is first in his life, I hope there other dealers don't come down with the same ordeal.So you are willing to do business with him because he is an honest, God-fearing, Christian - yet - You do not support his beliefs???

Now Im confused.
Kris

[Mark]

A word to the wise Mr Stone, knowing of his faith tells me he as verymuch credibilty. Oh yeh i had a wonderful time playing my gutiar a church yesterday singing for what i believe in. Mark

[odin]

partner i dont believe in organized relegion either. and because you dont doesnt give you the right to make fun of another man .My family are all southern baptists and i dont agree with em and argue with em but never make fun of em.mark means the man is a chistain and he trusts him .Who you put your faith in karl marx joseph stalin?

[odin]

ps lenin

[TLS]

I see where Mark was going with the "Faith in the lord" comment. It was him expressing that the dealer isn't just some wack job looser. However, there are at least three things that need to stay out of any business discussion....sex, politics, and religion. They just dont have any place in doing business. I've seen and heard of too many companies compromise business by bringing any one of the three up in conversation. To me, a Bible-thumping fundamentalist is just as scary as a wack job looser, when taken to extremes.

I personally get uncomfortable around holy rollers. It may just be my absenteeism from Sunday services for a few years wearing on my conscience or something, I dont know?

[lawrence stone]

Originally posted by Mark
A word to the wise Mr Stone, knowing of his faith tells me he as verymuch credibilty.

That's also what millions of "believers" thought about Jim Baker.

[Eric ELM]

Come on guys, lets not let this get out of hand here.

Since this is the brand of mower I use, I can not say a word about this. I guess I could if I step down from being Administrator. ;)

[odin]

Eric

you are right everyone has their opion and after all we should have been just talkin about these wonderful dixie choppers

[Mark]

I did not say a thing about the Dixie Chopper Mower in fact i think there great lawn mowers, i was just trying to make a point that all dealers are not treated in the same manner, I sure don''t know how Dixie Runs there Business, ive never owned one, just because alot of you have great dealers and have no problems doen''t mean a few of there dealers are not treated fair..I know Walter whould not have given-up on Dixie unless he had problems he knows they are great machines. Sorry if i affended anyone. Mark

[Flex-Deck]

Mark, I have done the same thing - get excited, relate other peoples experiences with no personal knowlege of what is really going on, and these guys set me straight. Talk about what you personally have experienced, and I think the rule is don't bash unless you have and or own and or experienced personally what you are bashing. The Manufacture Sposor Forums are the place to discuss product. Thanks Brad

[odin]

Originally posted by Mark
Sorry if i affended anyone. Mark

You didnt affend me and im glad your dealer is a honest man

[keifer]

Man this might have been a good forum on choppers and there service but stone screwed it up.

[odin]

Originally posted by keifer
Man this might have been a good forum on choppers and there service but stone screwed it up.


absolutely right you are keifer

[TLS]

I dont think Stone screwed anything up. He stated basically the same as I did, just a little more crudely and to the point.

Any truth to the statement about "Family Problems" inside the Magic Circle? Is it Father/Son problems or other things. I met both, but they just happened to "not" be standing next to each other! Or is it a Husband/Wife thing. $ is the root of all evil. And they are DEFINATELY making more than we all could possibly imagine!

[Eric ELM]

Originally posted by Mark
he also said that the company is having big problems Family wise. It is a darn shame to because he is such a great dealer

I thought the dealer had family problems Tommy.

I don't see whose business that is anyway, who ever he is talking about.

I think Flex Deck made a good point in his post above.

Mark, if this was your family situation, what ever it is, would you want someone posting about it and telling the whole world when you didn't know first had if it's true?

Hear say has no value and shouldn't be posted, when it comes to things like this.

[TLS]

Eric,

I dont know about that, I think he was referring to DC, NOT Walter, the dealer guy having family problems. Marks post is difficult to translate, must be a little known version of the English Language. However, it sounds like the regional sales rep is the one to blame, not DC itself.

[Ricky]

I know this is getting off subject, so I'll keep it short. I know a little about these subjects.

Have a Dixie Chopper (boy I like that thing), and I know the Lord (I love Him).
But I know I only love Him because He first loved me.

Stone, you sound like one of those ungodly sinners. I recognize that because I have had 43 yrs. experience being one myself.

But I have some good news! Christ died for the ungodly. Jesus came into the world to save sinners. So I know that He surly died for me. :). The apostle Paul said that he was the chief of sinners (thought I was).

If any of you want to know about my DC or my Lord let me know. I'm not an expert on either, but I know that there is a heavenly bread that will give life to your soul. I don't give that bread, see, I'm just a beggar myself that can tell you where you can get that bread. :)

[Lawnworks]

I understand what your saying Mark. I have a Dixie Chopper with about 300 hours. I am very happy with it. I have not had any problems with my Chopper, I wish your dealer did not have problems w/ them. But it looks like you found a good dealer, does he carry any other mowers besides Great Danes? Danes are a good mower.

Stone:
God gives life, gov't does not.

[MIDSOUTH]

Stone, I read all your postings and laugh at them. You think you are a person that knows it all with all your ignorant post you make.

[mowingmachine]

Stone I can't believe you would say something so ignorant. He was clearly saying the dealer is trustworthy.
Well said Ricky. I admire your expression of faith.

mowingmachine

[David Gretzmier]

I can't believe it - stone you looked stupid by making fun of another man's faith. believer or not ( I am);courtesy rules. To say that his post LOST credibility because of the mention of the Lord? THAT statement makes me rethink Stones credibility. "millenium member" indeed. so much for experience. I'll stick to the facts. the guy has got a beef. it is about dixies. some of the folks around here love them more than the Almighty Himself. I am shocked that the Lord is getting more attention than Dissin' dixies. Must mean we got a few folks here who have faith in more than just grass.

20 years ago this wouldn't seem so unusual to have folks stand up for thier faith, Nowadays it seems it is the exception. I am standing. don't make fun of another's beliefs.

Dave g

[deason]

Stone Wrote -
Feed my eyes, can you sew them shut?
Jesus Christ, deny your maker
He who tries, will be wasted
Feed my eyes now you've sewn them shut

Hey Stone,
Lets get something a little bit more original. Quoting "Alice in Chains" lyrics in your own signature line is a little too much.

[SLS]

Hey deason!

Maybe 'ol Stone can relate to "The Man In The Box".

Remember the lines:

"I'm the dog that gets beat...
rub my nose in s#it...
won't you come and save me?"

heheheheh. :D

[KirbysLawn]

Each person chooses their faith and they final destination, if you choose not to believe that is your choice, no one is bashing you for that. However, I would much rather spend my life living according to the teachings of the bible, if I'm wrong oh well, I lived my life trying to treat people right and live a decent life. I will have lived surrounded by people of similar belief and people that can be trusted thru life, nothing lost.

You live your life with your choices also, if you are wrong then you will also spend eternity with that choice. I feel much better about my choice and how I live. You obviously are a unhappy person who can only express yourself by criticizing and insulting others to make yourself feel better. Why is it so difficult for you to just post on the topic at hand, why the need to always cause controversy?

[David Haggerty]

kutnkru

I just got it! LOL (laugh out loud)

That the dealers' religion WAS his ordeal.

You've got a sharp mind, keep 'em coming.

Dave

[HOMER]

The point in all of this, I think, was to let everybody on here know about the troubles (1) one dealer is having. Him being a man of faith has nothing to do with his troubles........probably has less than alot of us because he IS a man of faith.

The issues he's having with DC can be worked out I'm sure. From time to time everyone will endure a family issue or two.........doesn't make the machine any better or any worse, he has (Art Evans) devoted the last 30 years to perfecting his machine and spends every day trying to make them better. I have to defend him here since I've visited the factory and seen the man in person (fact)............he is constantly looking towards the future and never settles for so so. He explained to us that there are changes being made and have been made in the sales and dealer rep dept. that will only make the flow of information better, again making changes to improve the overall flow of information.

There are problems in any business and you have to stay on top of them or they get out of hand...............Art Evans is staying on top of the problems and I don't feel his family life has affected the business in any way. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Chopper and neither should you if that's what you want. I know first hand the quality is there and the cut is awesome.........I ran a friends Ferris the other day (fact) so I know what I have is far superior in cut quality than his machine (although I did like that floating frt end).

Stone, when a man expresses his personal views and beliefs on Christianity it has nothing to do with you...........you didn't comment on the meat and potatoes of the post, just the part about GOD. The more you express your opinion the more ignorant you sound. If you don't know him then the rules say you can't speak on the matter, it's just hear say....................so Stone................please crawl back under the Toro rock and stick to the rules.

[HBFOXJr]

Maybe , just maybe there is more to this dealer story than meets the eye. This is all one sided and second handed.

Personally I don't care about one's religious convictions or affliations as long as they get the job done reliably, fairly and are good to their word.

If one is a christian, one believes we are all sinners. Hence, what makes this dealers story any more believable than another. We are not hearing other similar stories yet.

Perhaps, there are unknown issues with this dealer and his relations with Dixie. Maybe he makes more on Dane, or maybe he has to ante up cash he doesn't have for Dixie. Maybe Dane is more flexible, financially for a dealer.

Some how, I don't think God should be the issue here. I don't know why we should trust this sinner over any other person at this time.

[lawrence stone]

Originally posted by KirbysLawn
Each person chooses their faith and they final destination, if you choose not to believe that is your choice,

What I may believe is not the issue at hand. This forum is for the discussion of commercial lawn care. If you guys want to ramble on about Theology you need to do it in the off topic forum.

god does not make lawn mowers.

god does not sell lawn mowers.

god does not service lawn mowers.

Also slamming the dealer or DC (I can not translate Ebonics either) is not very christian and very hypocritical.

[dhicks]

I'm going to close this thread. The thread has become off topic and is not contributing to the overall welfair of LS or the members.