and who said the t190 cant lift???

[mrsops]

took some shots of my t190 lifting a full pallet of pavers with no problem at all. next week i will be taking pics of it lifting allen block pallets off my truck. this is for a few of you guys that say a t190 cant lift :laugh:

[ksss]

You want a medal because you picked up a pallet of pavers? My gawd you BC guys never quit. Show us a picture of you raising the bucket with a full load of dirt to max lift and I will throw in two medals. Personally I just called the T190 a POS in general. They have a hard enough time handling a load of material up an incline or breaking material out of a bank. I never thought to see what it could lift. Congradulations though, quite an accomplishment.:clapping:

[P.Services]

my deere could lift three of those at the same time :waving:

[mrsops]

You want a medal because you picked up a pallet of pavers? My gawd you BC guys never quit. Show us a picture of you raising the bucket with a full load of dirt to max lift and I will throw in two medals. Personally I just called the T190 a POS in general. They have a hard enough time handling a load of material up an incline or breaking material out of a bank. I never thought to see what it could lift. Congradulations though, quite an accomplishment.:clapping:

never quit i hear some of you guys saying it wouldnt lift pavers so there you go :laugh:.. ksss are you for real a full bucket of dirt to the max lift :laugh::laugh: i will do you one better i will take a pics of my t190 with a bucket of dirt in my 1 yard bucket that i put on my s330 sound good??

[mrsops]

my deere could lift three of those at the same time :waving:

not saying you cant im just proving a point for some guys on here that i dont think have ever even been in a t190 :laugh:

[bobcat_ron]

Reason it could lift is because you are over the "dead zone" at that height, lift it from the ground up and take a series of continous pics, then we'll see.

[mrsops]

Reason it could lift is because you are over the "dead zone" at that height, lift it from the ground up and take a series of continous pics, then we'll see.

ron come on LOL your to much it lifts it with no problem what so ever i do this all the time dude

[bobcat_ron]

I'm not saying anymore on this topic until I see the continuous (or vids) of it lifting from ground height, my T190 did the same at that height, but not from the ground.

[mrsops]

I'm not saying anymore on this topic until I see the continuous (or vids) of it lifting from ground height, my T190 did the same at that height, but not from the ground.

ron let me ask you this as ksss said to me your t190 didn't lift a full bucket of dirt??? with a 66" standard bucket LOL

[Fieldman12]

Mrsops, Looks like you have been keeping busy in NY. How many months out of the year is business slow there? How long you been in business? What types of advertising you do. Nice pics btw.

[bobcat_ron]

ron let me ask you this as ksss said to me your t190 didn't lift a full bucket of dirt??? with a 66" standard bucket LOL

It would lift a fully loaded 850 lbs combo bucket with a full load no problem, but all the excavator buckets I lift, like the 10 foot bucket (over 2300 lbs) it would never lift any higher than eye level with the forks on, only when I took it off the truck at that height would it lift higher than eye height.

[kreft]

How did you get the forks under the pallet with the sides on tow truck?

[mrsops]

Mrsops, Looks like you have been keeping busy in NY. How many months out of the year is business slow there? How long you been in business? What types of advertising you do. Nice pics btw.

yeah right now we are real real busy.. it gets slow around dec jan and feb but that's when it snows anyway and we do have alot of snow accounts so the more snow the better for me :).. my father has been in business 30 years this year and i been working for him for 7 years.. we do all types of advertisement from the blue book to the yellow pages to local signs where in some papers and there's a few others

[mrsops]

How did you get the forks under the pallet with the sides on tow truck?

called a good operator kreft

[kreft]

got any pics of the final project?

[mrsops]

It would lift a fully loaded 850 lbs combo bucket with a full load no problem, but all the excavator buckets I lift, like the 10 foot bucket (over 2300 lbs) it would never lift any higher than eye level with the forks on, only when I took it off the truck at that height would it lift higher than eye height.

yeah just wanted to make a point :laugh: got ksss over there telling me t190 cant lift a bucket of dirt :laugh::laugh: like i said some guys on this site have never ran a t190

[tbi]

I must say the bashers on this BB are truly full of themselves and they must be legends in their own minds.:usflag:

[mhilton]

I would like to see the t190 lift a pallet of full size wall block the 80 lbs keystones. Then ksss would give you a medal. I lifted around 4500lbs with my tl140 on to my dump, then i lifted at full height I think 4800 would be maxed out at full height.

[mrsops]

I must say the bashers on this BB are truly full of themselves and they must be legends in their own minds.:usflag:

LOL tbi man this site is funny

[Fieldman12]

Sounds like the business is established well then Mrsops.

[mrsops]

I would like to see the t190 lift a pallet of full size wall block the 80 lbs keystones. Then ksss would give you a medal. I lifted around 4500lbs with my tl140 on to my dump, then i lifted at full height I think 4800 would be maxed out at full height.

i have lifted a full pallet of that block off my trucks before.. nooo ksss said he would give me a metal if my t190 lifted a full bucket of dirt hahaha.. im telling you ksss has never ran a t190 before

[mrsops]

Sounds like the business is established well then Mrsops.

yeah hopefully we can stay real busy. alot of guys are going out of bussiness out here

[ksss]

mrsops,
I was trying to compare lifting the pallet to lifting the full bucket. I am sure the machine can lift a full bucket. It is not as fun mrsops if I have to explain it all. You see I was going to give you a medal for lifting the pavers and one for lifting the full load dirt, both are equally unimpressive. Thats what I was trying to say. I will type slower next time lol.:waving:

[Dirt Digger2]

my father has been in business 30 years this year and i been working for him for 7 years

i don't know, maybe i am stirring the pot here, but you keep saying unloading your trucks, your going to be buying all these new machines, you this and you that...then you give kreft sh*t for claiming that his dads equipment is his own

i just don't find it all that impressive...

maybe its cool that a bobcat can lift some tiny bricks...how about i get a picture of our backhoes lifting 1000 gallon septic tanks, or the trackhoe lifting a 1500 gallon tanks

[mrsops]

mrsops,
I was trying to compare lifting the pallet to lifting the full bucket. I am sure the machine can lift a full bucket. It is not as fun mrsops if I have to explain it all. You see I was going to give you a medal for lifting the pavers and one for lifting the full load dirt, both are equally unimpressive. Thats what I was trying to say. I will type slower next time lol.:waving:

:laugh: like i said ksss you never ran a t190 but please type faster next time :clapping:

[mrsops]

i don't know, maybe i am stirring the pot here, but you keep saying unloading your trucks, your going to be buying all these new machines, you this and you that...then you give kreft sh*t for claiming that his dads equipment is his own

i just don't find it all that impressive...

maybe its cool that a bobcat can lift some tiny bricks...how about i get a picture of our backhoes lifting 1000 gallon septic tanks, or the trackhoe lifting a 1500 gallon tanks

dirt like i said when your ready to come down here and check everything out then we can talk come see what i do and then you can tell me to stop buying NEW MACHINES for all the work i do.. i dont care what you find impressvie. and i dont care what your machine can lift your a joke pal.

[ksss]

:laugh: like i said ksss you never ran a t190 but please type faster next time :clapping:


I have run a T190, numerous times. That's how I know so much about what they can and cant do well. I have had the unfortunate task of having to rent them (all have been low houred, direct from the BC dealer). Believe me if I had not run one, I would not say anything about them. Do I bash the T300, nope, never run one. T250 I have run, aside from typical BC issues, no real performance issues. Nothing bad to say about it. The T140, never run it, nothing to say. I have plenty of seat time in a T190. The good thing is I don't need to rent them anymore. I can crane my 440 into the holes with my 160. If it makes you feel better, I wont talk about the T190 anymore.

I typed real slow this time. Hopefully it helped. If not, raise your hand and I will know to type even slower lol.:waving:

[mrsops]

I have run a T190, numerous times. That's how I know so much about what they can and cant do well. I have had the unfortunate task of having to rent them (all have been low houred, direct from the BC dealer). Believe me if I had not run one, I would not say anything about them. Do I bash the T300, nope, never run one. T250 I have run, aside from typical BC issues, no real performance issues. Nothing bad to say about it. The T140, never run it, nothing to say. I have plenty of seat time in a T190. The good thing is I don't need to rent them anymore. I can crane my 440 into the holes with my 160. If it makes you feel better, I wont talk about the T190 anymore.

I typed real slow this time. Hopefully it helped. If not, raise your hand and I will know to type even slower lol.:waving:

ahhh ksss its all fun and games when it comes to me and you.. please type faster :cool2:

[Fieldman12]

Well, if the T190 will not lift it just give it some Viagra! :) Sorry, I just could not resist.

[bobcat_ron]

Or more like mrsops is using too much Viagra when he's around Bobcat equipment!

[Fieldman12]

You could hang some balls on the front of the Bobcat down below when the bucket is in the air. Just like the pickups with the balls hanging down in the back. :)

[bobcat_ron]

If that's the case, the Bobcat will need mega balls then, like 2 beach ball sized balls!

[mrsops]

If that's the case, the Bobcat will need mega balls then, like 2 beach ball sized balls!

LOLLLLLLL that was good ron i give it to you

[kreft]

dirt like i said when your ready to come down here and check everything out then we can talk come see what i do and then you can tell me to stop buying NEW MACHINES for all the work i do.. i dont care what you find impressvie. and i dont care what your machine can lift your a joke pal.

theres no need to be rude dude, thats why no one on this site has respect for you.:nono::dizzy:

[mrsops]

theres no need to be rude dude, thats why no one on this site has respect for you.:nono::dizzy:

i think he was rude first kreft.. as he knew he was stirring the pot but im not about to fight on this website.. dont speak for other people about having respect

[kreft]

i dont want anybody to fight on this website, i just one to learn whatever and see what everyone is using these days, thats why i joined lawnsite.com.

[cat2]

i dont want anybody to fight on this website, i just one to learn whatever and see what everyone is using these days, thats why i joined lawnsite.com.



Hey i'm learning alot. let the good times roll

[Dirt Digger2]

boss don't ever call me a joke unless you are willing to eat your words later...that kind of egotistical sh*t might fly up in the city but you come down to my parts and you'll have another thing coming

[crab]

i think we need to take this to the octagon ,settle it once and for all:laugh:

[Construct'O]

Good morning!!!!!!!!
It's good to see everyone got a good night sleep:)

Lock and Load:weightlifter::usflag:

[wanabe]

Bellgard are not that heavy. Plost a pic of it lifting a full pallet of versalock blocks!

[JDSKIDSTEER]

Good morning!!!!!!!!
It's good to see everyone got a good night sleep:)

Lock and Load:weightlifter::usflag:
I think they need a group hug.:laugh:

[mrsops]

I think they need a group hug.:laugh:

LOL everyone hug and lets get along no more pics for me on this site anymore no wayyyyy

[mrsops]

boss don't ever call me a joke unless you are willing to eat your words later...that kind of egotistical sh*t might fly up in the city but you come down to my parts and you'll have another thing coming

:laugh::laugh: whos going to come down here a farmer with no teeth :laugh::laugh:

[kreft]

why not post more pics? just because people were yanking ya, post the pics and prove them wrong....

[DeVries]

Have a good look at the pics again guy's. It's not even a full skid of interlock. The first row is missing.:hammerhead:
New Holland al the way:weightlifter::laugh:

[kreft]

Oh Yeaaaaaa

[mrsops]

Have a good look at the pics again guy's. It's not even a full skid of interlock. The first row is missing.:hammerhead:
New Holland al the way:weightlifter::laugh:

the first row is missing??? are you kidding me count the bands of pavers and look at the pallet its longer and wider then the standard paver pallet

[mrsops]

why not post more pics? just because people were yanking ya, post the pics and prove them wrong....

you cant yank me i proved people wrong already :).. no more pics for a while :waving:

[kreft]

How did you prove them wrong?

[AWJ Services]

I still like the video on the Deere site where the T190 cannot pick the weight off of the ground.:rolleyes:

If you actually ever used a real skid steer maybe you would not be so easily pleased.:weightlifter:

[columbiaplower]

I still like the video on the Deere site where the T190 cannot pick the weight off of the ground.:rolleyes:

If you actually ever used a real skid steer maybe you would not be so easily pleased.:weightlifter:

where is that video found? post a link

[AWJ Services]

http://digdeeper.deere.com/digdeeper_media.html

Select skid steer loaders.
Then tippping the scales.
Then breakout and lift
Then Bobcat.

You can check it against Takeuchi and Cat as well.

[02DURAMAX]

How did you prove them wrong?

By showing them that it can pick up a full pallet of pavers.

[02DURAMAX]

i dont want anybody to fight on this website, i just one to learn whatever and see what everyone is using these days, thats why i joined lawnsite.com.

Thats impossible

[jasonb41]

MRSOPS- where in NY are you located? Did you have a bunch of snow this year?

[ksss]

Thats impossible


Thats for sure.

[mrsops]

I still like the video on the Deere site where the T190 cannot pick the weight off of the ground.:rolleyes:

If you actually ever used a real skid steer maybe you would not be so easily pleased.:weightlifter:

you cant compare the t190 to a ct 322.. the 322 roc is like 400lbs more should be comparing the ct322 to a t250..

[AWJ Services]

you cant compare the t190 to a ct 322.. the 322 roc is like 400lbs more should be comparing the ct322 to a t250..

The TL 130 at least could pick the pallet up.:hammerhead:

The Deere and the Doocat cost the same regardless of ROC.
The Takeuchi cost many thousands less than either.

Go demo a machine that actually has strong hydraulics and do some real digging.Maybe then you would not brag on that turd so much.:cry:

[mrsops]

The TL 130 at least could pick the pallet up.:hammerhead:

The Deere and the Doocat cost the same regardless of ROC.
The Takeuchi cost many thousands less than either.

Go demo a machine that actually has strong hydraulics and do some real digging.Maybe then you would not brag on that turd so much.:cry:

i do plenty of digging you dont have to worry about that :laugh: if i wanted a machine that i couldnt see out of then i would demo a john deere..

[mrsops]

MRSOPS- where in NY are you located? Did you have a bunch of snow this year?

staten island... i think we had about 13'' total for the whole winter what a waste :cry:

[markam70]

i do plenty of digging you dont have to worry about that :laugh: if i wanted a machine that i couldnt see out of then i would demo a john deere..

so, what do you look for in a machine? one with enough cab room for your overinflated ego.......

[dozerman21]

i do plenty of digging you dont have to worry about that :laugh: if i wanted a machine that i couldnt see out of then i would demo a john deere..

I've had a T300 and now a CT332, and the Deere has better visibility in the front and especially the rear. On the sides you lose some with the bucket flat on the ground, but all you need to do is lift the arms a little and you're fine. It took no time to get used to. Every skid has a blind spot toward the rear corner of the machine.

[AWJ Services]

so, what do you look for in a machine? one with enough cab room for your overinflated ego.......

Thats funny.

[AWJ Services]

I am still waiting for him too get 2 pallets of wall blocks and pick them up with that 330 and take a picture.:rolleyes:

[RockSet N' Grade]

To overpersonalize this machine stuff cracks me up. I still say the best machine out there is the one that is paid for.....still working and making money, more money than it is costing to own. Many factors go into that. Every machine has got its good points - even if its good point is only that it is paid off - and every one of them has a down side. I have a list a mile long on what I would change with my Gehl equipment, but it is what I have got....so here I am, not interested in sword fighting with anyone in the showers about who's is bigger and better........if it works, then let-er-rip.

[AWJ Services]

I agree completly ,especially the paid for part.

I however would be pissed if I bought a T190 considering what a 31k dollar TL130 will do compared to it.

I always look at dollar vs performance rather than the color or the roc.
Why pay more for less.:nono:

[kreft]

agreed...........

[crab]

couldn't't agree more ,again whatever works for you're budget and you're needs.but i want to know why you need to see you're tracks all the time?if you're bucket clears the space you go into you should already know where the tracks will be,and as dozer said just lift the boom six inches and you can see the tracks.look out the back of the bob next time , hows you're visibility.

[kreft]

good point.

[ksss]

mrsops,
Have you offered your former CAT salesman a job yet? I have been impatiently waiting to hear the outcome of that mess from your side of it.

[bobcat_ron]

So am I!!!

[Scag48]

This thread is a laugh fest.

[mrsops]

mrsops,
Have you offered your former CAT salesman a job yet? I have been impatiently waiting to hear the outcome of that mess from your side of it.

no mess lawnsite took the thread off

[dozerman21]

no mess lawnsite took the thread off

Wasn't the Cat salesman going to call you the next day with some more info? Did you ever hear from him again?

[kreft]

Is that all the pavers that the T-190 can lift? If not how much can it lift?

[GreenMonster]

well, my experience with the T190 is that it will take a full skid of wall block (say Allan Block) off a truck, but it won't put it on. Matter of fact, it will only pick up a pallet of AB far enough off the ground to move it from point A to point B on a jobsite.

To me, it's a little silly to worry about how much a CTL, or almost any skid will take off a truck. It's costs a hell of a lot more to go pick up your own material than to have it delivered with a spyder. Very seldom are we loading or unloading full pallets.

Although we're not comparing apples to apples, I much prefer our ASV SR80 in every aspect over the Bobcat. Except support -- bother dealers suk azz.
We have a T190, 335 minix, and an MT52. We've likely bought our last Bobcat.

[bobcat_ron]

C'mon, we need more proof!

[mrsops]

C'mon, we need more proof!

everyone on here knows what it can and cannot lift ron and so do you :laugh: no more pics for a while on here

[AWJ Services]

It's costs a hell of a lot more to go pick up your own material than to have it delivered with a spyder.

It really goes much deeper than just lifting ability as lifting ability is directly related too hyd power.
The less hyd power you have the harder it is too excavate hard soil.
Bucket breakout and arm breakout are very important and the fact that the some machines in this class cannot pick up 3600 pounds off of flat ground really shows the machines lack of hyd power.
That is the position that the bucket is in when digging.Look at the TL130 with conventional lift arms has no problem lifting it.Looks like certain machines are under engineered.
This one was the major reason that I ended up in my Machine.The other machines did not have the power that mine did during heavy excavation in a side by side comparison.
Up north you may not need this power but in this Hard rocky red clay we have here you do.

[mrsops]

It really goes much deeper than just lifting ability as lifting ability is directly related too hyd power.
The less hyd power you have the harder it is too excavate hard soil.
Bucket breakout and arm breakout are very important and the fact that the some machines in this class cannot pick up 3600 pounds off of flat ground really shows the machines lack of hyd power.
That is the position that the bucket is in when digging.Look at the TL130 with conventional lift arms has no problem lifting it.Looks like certain machines are under engineered.
This one was the major reason that I ended up in my Machine.The other machines did not have the power that mine did during heavy excavation in a side by side comparison.
Up north you may not need this power but in this Hard rocky red clay we have here you do.

guy that brings me the allenblock tells me the pallets weigh 4,000lbs. my t190 will lift them off his trailer, granted it cant lift them back on his truck but i can move them around from point a to point b with no problem.. but i leave all the heavy lifting to the 330 :weightlifter:

[qps]

Hey...did you get your A$$ in a sling for posting that memo?????

[Scag48]

That pallet in the picture does NOT weigh 4,000 pounds. Maybe 3,000 at the most.

[ksss]

Hey...did you get your A$$ in a sling for posting that memo?????


I don't think he is telling us the story. Actually I find the response to this point somewhat evasive. We know the thread was pulled. We are also sure that a conversation has taken place between mrsops (or his dad) and CAT and I for one would like to know what they said.


Thats just me.

[ksss]

That pallet in the picture does NOT weigh 4,000 pounds. Maybe 3,000 at the most.



That pallet does not weigh 4K.

[stuvecorp]

guy that brings me the allenblock tells me the pallets weigh 4,000lbs. my t190 will lift them off his trailer, granted it cant lift them back on his truck but i can move them around from point a to point b with no problem.. but i leave all the heavy lifting to the 330 :weightlifter:

Aren't Allen Block all hollow? How big would that pallet be?

[mrsops]

That pallet in the picture does NOT weigh 4,000 pounds. Maybe 3,000 at the most.

i never said that pallet weighed 4000lbs.. i said allen block weighs 4000. that pallet of pavers in that pic at the most weighs 2,800-3,000

[bobcat_ron]

He's probably got a hollow interior inside that load of AB with plywood holding the top up!

[mrsops]

I don't think he is telling us the story. Actually I find the response to this point somewhat evasive. We know the thread was pulled. We are also sure that a conversation has taken place between mrsops (or his dad) and CAT and I for one would like to know what they said.


Thats just me.

it wasnt a big deal ksss check cats website soon there going to be putting everything on there :)

[mrsops]

He's probably got a hollow interior inside that load of AB with plywood holding the top up!

yeah that must of been well thought out ron lol..

[mrsops]

Aren't Allen Block all hollow? How big would that pallet be?

hollow??? whens the last time you did allen block LOL

[ksss]

it wasnt a big deal ksss check cats website soon there going to be putting everything on there :)


OK so tell us the story if it isn't a big deal. My guess if it was being released anyway in a couple a weeks, pulling it off of here would not have been a big deal. Did CAT come down on the salesman who gave you the info? Have you talked to the salesman since?

[mrsops]

OK so tell us the story if it isn't a big deal. My guess if it was being released anyway in a couple a weeks, pulling it off of here would not have been a big deal. Did CAT come down on the salesman who gave you the info? Have you talked to the salesman since?

everything worked out great thanks for your interest thou ksss :)

[stuvecorp]

hollow??? whens the last time you did allen block LOL

I don't install Allen Block but do sell against it, you need to get out of your Bobcat and take a look.

[mrsops]

I don't install Allen Block but do sell against it, you need to get out of your Bobcat and take a look.

what do you sell?

[stuvecorp]

Versa-Lok block and Willow Creek pavers

[mrsops]

Versa-Lok block and Willow Creek pavers

i have done versa block thats a real nice block.. willow creek pavers i have never done. 1 allen block weighs about 80lbs.. i cant remember what the versa block weighed

[kreft]

Wasn't the Cat salesman going to call you the next day with some more info? Did you ever hear from him again?

we need more info. and pics!

[kreft]

called a good operator kreft

if he was such a good operator, how come he cracked the pallet?

[P.Services]

He's probably got a hollow interior inside that load of AB with plywood holding the top up!

hahaha :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[mhilton]

I want to see a t190 with a 4000 lb load at 4ft, That machine would be bent over like a *****.

[bobcat_ron]

I want to see a t190 with a 4000 lb load at 4ft, That machine would be bent over like a *****.

T190 tipping load is like 5000+ pounds, highly unlikely that it would bend over.

I have had a 4400 pound concrete stack block hanging off my forks with the forks above the cab and the block 12" off the ground.
T190's aren't slugs, just their loader's "dead zone".

[mrsops]

I want to see a t190 with a 4000 lb load at 4ft, That machine would be bent over like a *****.

it will lift it about 3 4ft off the ground to move it to point a to b.. i have done it... mhilton your right in jersey come by one day and ill show you how its done :weightlifter:

[mrsops]

T190 tipping load is like 5000+ pounds, highly unlikely that it would bend over.

I have had a 4400 pound concrete stack block hanging off my forks with the forks above the cab and the block 12" off the ground.
T190's aren't slugs, just their loader's "dead sone".

your right ron there not slugs and you have to remember something well i know you know this the machine roc is 1900 i think its doing dam well for lifting some of these heavy skids..

[bobcat_ron]

A T320 will carry around a T180 on it's forks!

[mrsops]

A T320 will carry around a T180 on it's forks!

i lifted my 553 when i had with my s250 on the forks lifted over an 8' wall

[kreft]

like KSSS would say, "you wan't a medal"?

[mrsops]

like KSSS would say, "you wan't a medal"?

what is wrong with you?? why are you bringing other people into anything.. would you go back to bed

[kreft]

what do you mean "back" to bed?

[dons]

I like reading this forum and have no dog in this fight. But can say my S185, even with the added weight of the Mclaren Nu air tires and the Pro track rubber, about 1500 pounds, cant lift or perform as well as my former JD 317 with the same wheels and tracks.

I guess the T190 is far superior lifting wise, my S185 can’t curl 3600 pounds much less lift it beyond a foot and its still tipping even with the added weight. Having a hard time believing a T190 can unload 4000 pound pallets.

[tbi]

like KSSS would say, "you wan't a medal"?

Hey kid if you were a union apprentice in the Bronx do you know what your name would be?


Phil, and no one would ever here from you again.

[mrsops]

Hey kid if you were a union apprentice in the Bronx do you know what your name would be?


Phil, and no one would ever here from you again.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[bobcat_ron]

You New Yorkers must have a different sense of humor, I'm scratching my head and arse over that remark.

[Digdeep]

I like reading this forum and have no dog in this fight. But can say my S185, even with the added weight of the Mclaren Nu air tires and the Pro track rubber, about 1500 pounds, cant lift or perform as well as my former JD 317 with the same wheels and tracks.

I guess the T190 is far superior lifting wise, my S185 can’t curl 3600 pounds much less lift it beyond a foot and its still tipping even with the added weight. Having a hard time believing a T190 can unload 4000 pound pallets.

I'm pretty sure that the T190 is the S185 on tracks.

[mrsops]

I'm pretty sure that the T190 is the S185 on tracks.

same frame and everything t190 has more hp and a little bit more roc. but your all missing the point reason why the t190 will lift more is because of the distribution of the tracks and the way the machine is set up

[bobcat_ron]

The T190 will weigh more than the S185, like about 1200 lbs, and CTL's are rated at 35% of their tipping load so you won't be nose diving everywhere.

[mrsops]

The T190 will weigh more than the S185, like about 1200 lbs, and CTL's are rated at 35% of their tipping load so you won't be nose diving everywhere.

very hard to nose dive with the t190.. s185 is good for lifting sod around

[mrsops]

I'm pretty sure that the T190 is the S185 on tracks.

digdeep didnt you sell bobcats??

[Digdeep]

digdeep didnt you sell bobcats??

Yup, for a little over 8 years. 12 hours a day behind a truck windshield got old even though the money was pretty good.

[hosejockey2002]

You New Yorkers must have a different sense of humor, I'm scratching my head and arse over that remark.

Phil, as in fill, as in fill dirt, as in buried alive. Sort of a satirical stab at the days of union thuggery on the East Coast. Wouldn't expect you guys in the Great White North to get that....:usflag:

[AWJ Services]

well i know you know this the machine roc is 1900 i think its doing dam well for lifting some of these heavy skids..

My TL140 has a ROC of 2000 pounds yet it can lift twice as much as a T190.

[mrsops]

My TL140 has a ROC of 2000 pounds yet it can lift twice as much as a T190.

:clapping::clapping:

[AWJ Services]

s185 is good for lifting sod around

Not sure what kind of sod you have but they cannot load a pallet here on a trailer.

[AWJ Services]

Reality sucks doesn't it.

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

[mrsops]

Reality sucks doesn't it.

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

:nono: nothing sucks to me awj im just happy to own what i own and im sure you feel the same :drinkup: on me

[mrsops]

Not sure what kind of sod you have but they cannot load a pallet here on a trailer.

wow must be as heavy as concrete that sod :weightlifter:

[mrsops]

Yup, for a little over 8 years. 12 hours a day behind a truck windshield got old even though the money was pretty good.

wow you put some time in.. how much did you make off a sale of say a 30,000 machine

[stuvecorp]

Ah, got back from my Airwolf dvd marathon and...

Okay guys, if the 190 works for Mrsops good for him. I think Elvis has left this thread...

[mrsops]

Ah, got back from my Airwolf dvd marathon and...

Okay guys, if the 190 works for Mrsops good for him. I think Elvis has left this thread...

airwolf dvd marathon i could of sent them to you along with some elvis musicals if thats what you really wanted

[tbi]

Phil, as in fill, as in fill dirt, as in buried alive. Sort of a satirical stab at the days of union thuggery on the East Coast. Wouldn't expect you guys in the Great White North to get that....:usflag:

Thanks I though we were going to have to :hammerhead: into ronnie.
I'm sure it's still a little over their heads but .....

[tbi]

Not sure what kind of sod you have but they cannot load a pallet here on a trailer.


How SF on a pallet???? 2000??????

[bobcat_ron]

Phil, as in fill, as in fill dirt, as in buried alive. Sort of a satirical stab at the days of union thuggery on the East Coast. Wouldn't expect you guys in the Great White North to get that....:usflag:

Aaahhhhh, now I got it, it's been awhile since I saw the Soprano's.

[AWJ Services]

How SF on a pallet???? 2000??????

500sq/ft.

They will weigh 2500+ pounds.

[KTM]

The only way A S185 would lift A pallet of sod that I buy is if you let it sit in the summer sun and dry out for a few days, other wise there is no chance.

[mrsops]

The only way A S185 would lift A pallet of sod that I buy is if you let it sit in the summer sun and dry out for a few days, other wise there is no chance.

i used to move sod around with my s185... wet sod no.

[AWJ Services]

The irrigation runs 24/7 in the sod fields down here.
It is always wet.

[KTM]

IF the sod farm sent me any thing but wet sod I would send it back, and I cover it and mist it if it won't be laid for A few hours, I don't take chances with sod it cost to much to redo

[AWJ Services]

Our turf goes dormant in the winter so the sod farm really has too work hard too get the sod ready for harvest.
It just now has started turning green and is dormant by November.
One crop a season is tough for them.

[KTM]

One crop per season! why is that? around here I think they can get A crop every 4 weeks. you can get it starting early May into November. Is it the soil in GA?

[KTM]

How much is sod down there? last year around here it was 13-14 cents sq ft delivered as long as you ordered at least 5000 sq ft.

[mrsops]

The only way A S185 would lift A pallet of sod that I buy is if you let it sit in the summer sun and dry out for a few days, other wise there is no chance.

if you let sod sit in the summer sun on a pallet it would be dead the next day.

[AWJ Services]

It ranges in price from .13 cents a foot too .50 cents a foot depending on species.

Yes the soil is poor in the south.Some fields get 2 crops a season on Bermuda.

[mrsops]

500sq/ft.

They will weigh 2500+ pounds.

500sq/ft as well by me sometimes we can get 600sq/ft on a pallet.. it weighs 2000-2500 according to the sod boys

[Digdeep]

wow you put some time in.. how much did you make off a sale of say a 30,000 machine

Depended on the margin. When I left I was drawing a pretty good base and 15% of gross margin plus a percentage of rentals that I generated.

[tbi]

We pay $.17/sf and they put 600 sf on a pallet. It's grown in the old onion fields ( muck land) unless you get the mineral sod.

I've never had any trouble lifting it even with a 773.

[sunray237]

the only complaint I have with my t190 is it boogs down fairly easy when I plow into a pile of dirt and get a full bucket.
I have found very little I can't dig,some things just take alittle longer.
when you get those big teeth on the bucket it really changes the ability of what you can do with that chunk of steel on the front of that little machine.

[dozerman21]

It ranges in price from .13 cents a foot too .50 cents a foot depending on species.Yes the soil is poor in the south.Some fields get 2 crops a season on Bermuda.

I watched a little golf outing from Georgia on TV yesterday, and that sod looked pretty good AWJ.:usflag: You should get your sod from Augusta.:weightlifter:

[dozerman21]

I just saw the previous poster is from Augusta. Crazy!:dizzy:

[bobcat_ron]

Where is mrsops???

[markam70]

Where is mrsops???

who cares? its kinda peaceful without him

[cat2]

yeah i wonder where he is

[mrsops]

who cares? its kinda peaceful without him

how cute :laugh:

[02DURAMAX]

who cares? its kinda peaceful without him
:hammerhead:

[bobcat_ron]

I miss his over blown Bobcat Ego.

[mrsops]

I miss his over blown Bobcat Ego.

they make a great skid ron what can i say :)

[bobcat_ron]

Oh dear lord, he's back, what happened?

Did you get caught up in the Cat yellow glow of your 305CCR?

[mrsops]

Oh dear lord, he's back, what happened?

Did you get caught up in the Cat yellow glow of your 305CCR?

you missed me ron? i got caught up with the white and yellow glow :)

[tbi]

I miss his over blown Bobcat Ego.

TFF coming from the legend in his own mind LOL

[YardPro]

i unload 4K pallets with my t200 all the time.

It will lift a pallet and a half of block/pavers.