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edgeman2003
04-13-2008, 09:36 PM
I was thinking about a ford ranger or one of the mazda pickups. Something cheap but able to pull a 6x10 trailer with a 61'' deck turf tiger(1350lbs), 21''wb, trimmer and blower? Since I have a new turf tiger, nothing thats cost a lot. Looking to pay cash also, cant afford any monthly payments.

KGR landscapeing
04-13-2008, 09:45 PM
you asking if thats ok or what? look in the for sale section. or check craigslist in your area. rangers r tough

edgeman2003
04-13-2008, 09:48 PM
you asking if thats ok or what? look in the for sale section. or check craigslist in your area. rangers r tough

yeah, is the ranger a good truck. If I cant find a cheap ranger, what else can I get?

edgeman2003
04-13-2008, 09:49 PM
cheap one that will last a season or two till I can go full time

KGR landscapeing
04-13-2008, 09:51 PM
o ya a ranger will tow around a Ztr all day. just keep your tounge weight down. I am a ford guy so ranger's would be the way to go but if you can get a cheap 150 i would get that or even a 250 or 350

edgeman2003
04-13-2008, 09:55 PM
so, it can be 2x4 or 4x4, does that even matter ?

ALC-GregH
04-13-2008, 09:57 PM
I'd get a full size p/u. The mileage isn't going to be any worse since you'll have more power.

I'm keeping my eyes open for a decent older Chevy. Kinda like a fixer upper. Parts are cheap and a small block Chevy will run forever.

edgeman2003
04-13-2008, 09:59 PM
I'd get a full size p/u. The mileage isn't going to be any worse since you'll have more power.

I'm keeping my eyes open for a decent older Chevy. Kinda like a fixer upper. Parts are cheap and a small block Chevy will run forever.

you mean like 80's or 90's? f-150?

ALC-GregH
04-13-2008, 10:25 PM
You want something that is emissions exempt. Needs to be 20 years old. That way your not dealing with the emissions crap. At least thats my plan.

edgeman2003
04-13-2008, 10:28 PM
whatwould the cost be on something around that age?

hole in one lco
04-13-2008, 10:35 PM
go on craigslist people are giving trucks away

stevenf
04-14-2008, 12:12 AM
My dad had a 96 long bed F-150. He bought it for $3,500.00 with 120,000 miles. It was a v8 and automatic trans and was in VERY good condition. He then found another 96 F-150, short bed with a straight 6 engine with only 93,000 miles on it for $4,000.00. It is in EXTREMELY good condition.
I found a Full size 1988 Bronco with a 5.8L v8, 4x4, automatic, with only 73,000 miles on it. Its in emaculate condition for $3,800.00. Im most likely going to pick it up tomorrow.

Sorry for the long post. Its just to show you that you can get a good looking, strong, reliable pickup for $3,000.00. Even if you do have to put alot of money into repairs. It will still be cheaper then buying a new truck with full coverage insurance.

bruno_rs
04-14-2008, 12:27 AM
hey edge, i'd definitely go with a 1/2 ton 4wd from the 80's. the make is your call and a truck from that era, in real nice shape, shouldn't cost more than 1500 - 2000 with a plow set up on it. scrap the idea of a mini, if you're going to be pulling a trailer... the (mini's) brakes will be "scary" at best, power not existent and fuel consumption WILL be the same or more than a small 8! just my .02 ... good luck. have a good one.

edgeman2003
04-14-2008, 12:34 AM
thanks for the info, I want to spend under $2,000

KGR landscapeing
04-14-2008, 06:16 AM
I mean i guess my Question to you is why cheat and buy a clunker when you know its just gonna give you head aches. I mean my 04 gives my problems, my boss has a new tranny put in his 05HD the guy a i sub 4 has no reverse in his. i mean get something you know you can trust or fix thats all.

ALC-GregH
04-14-2008, 09:31 AM
KGR, I can answer that. A 1978 Chevy truck will be MUCH cheaper to replace the engine, trans or rear over a truck say 1995 of the same brand. He lives in Maryland which I've lived in the state for 40 years. I only moved to Pa a few years ago. Trust me, he needs a older truck. It will be cheaper to fix and he'll be emissions exempt. I want a nice Chevy. A older Ford wouldn't be bad at all either. The older 5.0l and 5.8l engines are very strong or like mentioned, a good old in-line 6 4.9L will run as strong as the others and get alittle better mileage.

Have you priced any parts for a 2000 or newer truck? Have you dealt with the coils on a Triton Ford engine? You can expect to pay $600-800 just on coils let alone the plugs and boots. Better sit down if a injector goes out, or a tranny, or a rear diff, or a engine! If a injector goes out on my 1978 Chevy truck, I'll buy a $40 "carb" re-build kit and fix it in a few hours. :) Or if the T400 trans takes a dump, I'll re-build it in my garage for a couple hundred bucks and have a fresh unit.

I think you get my point. :)

edgeman2003
04-14-2008, 09:42 AM
KGR, I can answer that. A 1978 Chevy truck will be MUCH cheaper to replace the engine, trans or rear over a truck say 1995 of the same brand. He lives in Maryland which I've lived in the state for 40 years. I only moved to Pa a few years ago. Trust me, he needs a older truck. It will be cheaper to fix and he'll be emissions exempt. I want a nice Chevy. A older Ford wouldn't be bad at all either. The older 5.0l and 5.8l engines are very strong or like mentioned, a good old in-line 6 4.9L will run as strong as the others and get alittle better mileage.

Have you priced any parts for a 2000 or newer truck? Have you dealt with the coils on a Triton Ford engine? You can expect to pay $600-800 just on coils let alone the plugs and boots. Better sit down if a injector goes out, or a tranny, or a rear diff, or a engine! If a injector goes out on my 1978 Chevy truck, I'll buy a $40 "carb" re-build kit and fix it in a few hours. :) Or if the T400 trans takes a dump, I'll re-build it in my garage for a couple hundred bucks and have a fresh unit.

I think you get my point. :)

yeah I know what you mean, it is better to get an older one. my father-in-law has an old 83 f150 that he uses to hall things around at his house. he only ever has minor problems with it. lights, gas gauge, simple things like that, [but never any engine or trans problems.

Enzo
04-14-2008, 10:27 AM
You can probably pick up a Ford F150 or 250 for under $15,000. I bought my 2002 F 250 with only 50,000 miles on it for 16,950 with a brand new boss plow on it already installed and everything. The dealership couldnt get rid of it and i was the lucky one who got it for that cheap. Currently I am pulling a 7x14 enclosed trailer with it and I have no problems.

edgeman2003
04-14-2008, 12:06 PM
I don't see the point for me to get a truck that new since I only do this part-time. I already have a car payment on by baby ( http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2504153
which I have over $15,000 invested. plus the commercial insurance is expensive on newer trucks, double what I pay already fro three car with $0 deduct. so I think Im going to find something in the 80's ford or chevy i-6 cylinder. parts are cheap and insurance. no emissions to worry about

bruno_rs
04-14-2008, 07:12 PM
I don't see the point for me to get a truck that new since I only do this part-time. I already have a car payment on by baby ( http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2504153
which I have over $15,000 invested. plus the commercial insurance is expensive on newer trucks, double what I pay already fro three car with $0 deduct. so I think Im going to find something in the 80's ford or chevy i-6 cylinder. parts are cheap and insurance. no emissions to worry about

hey edge, you won't be sorry with a work truck from the 80's... cheaper all around and easier to fix and/or replace. good luck. have a good one.

edgeman2003
04-14-2008, 08:01 PM
I heard that the i-6 engine has the best torque then the v8 in the 80's. Is that true?

bruno_rs
04-14-2008, 09:32 PM
I heard that the i-6 engine has the best torque then the v8 in the 80's. Is that true?

hey edge, maybe a ford i-6 but i am a chevy man. not much beats a 350 fi v-8... all the power you could ask for, pulls/trailers nice and fuel economy's not too bad especially with a 700r4 tranny. if you decide on a chevy, try to find a mid-late 80's BUT be careful to check the frame/undercarriage thoroughly for rust and/or ROT... they can be notorious for that. good luck. you shouldn't have too much trouble finding one, in the price range you're looking in. have a good one.

edgeman2003
04-14-2008, 09:48 PM
hey edge, maybe a ford i-6 but i am a chevy man. not much beats a 350 fi v-8... all the power you could ask for, pulls/trailers nice and fuel economy's not too bad especially with a 700r4 tranny. if you decide on a chevy, try to find a mid-late 80's BUT be careful to check the frame/undercarriage thoroughly for rust and/or ROT... they can be notorious for that. good luck. you shouldn't have too much trouble finding one, in the price range you're looking in. have a good one.

thanks god bless

PHS
04-15-2008, 06:48 AM
An older Ranger would be marginal I think for what you're doing. The max trailer rating is around 1400-1500# and if you have very many hills in your area it's going to be hard on it. I have an '01 Ranger that I tow a 5X10 box trailer behind and it works ok for my around town driving but I drove on MD freeways once and I don't think I would want to be taking my set up loaded on those roads. An F-150 or equivilent would be better IMO.

CuttingEdgeTM
04-15-2008, 08:26 PM
F-150 or similar truck, I believe, would be the way to go. With a Ranger or Mazda (or other mini-truck), you will be limited on how much you can tow. I like flexibility, so would go with a full-size compared to a mini or mid sized truck. Just my thoughts.

kleankutslawn
04-15-2008, 09:30 PM
i normal use a Chevy 2500 but now im using a f250 x cab.it works great.they are 88,93.i won't buy a new truck to work in so i will keep up grading to newer used trocks.just my.2

topsites
04-15-2008, 09:44 PM
You'll have to drive a few 100 to get there, but I kinda doubt you'll find cheaper or better...

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=22&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7cE-ANY%7cM-_9_%7cB-4000%7cH-%7cD-_96_%7cN-N%7cR-250%7cI-1%7cP-PRICE+descending%7cQ-descending%7cX-popular%7cZ-21740&aff=national&paId=135795939&recnum=18&leadExists=true
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You're going to have to spend 1-2g's, but you get a 3/4 ton that should last more than 6-12 months.

Oh and btw, to be emissions exempt you'll need a pre-1976 model, I don't think you want that.

zmowingmaster
04-21-2008, 02:01 PM
I already have a ranger. I tow ,plow and drive it daily.Gets a good car wash before the weekend starts or the wife won't get in it.
Her is some numbers for you.
*For 6 years I was towing a total of 2200-2500lbs (trailer,mowers and misl equipment) Two people in the truck and most of the time two to three bags full of grass.
The truck handled the weight pretty good.
*For 6 years also I was plowing with it .460lbs for plow, 150lbs monunt(i suppose that is around there).75lbs salter and always two people in the truck and 10 50lbs bags of salt in the bed. The truck handled that excellent.
*For 5 years,it was my daily driver,I don't use it as personal any more it is strictly work. 17 miles per gallon highway. 14-15 mpg city.
In the course of the 6 year period,I went through normal maintenence and the truck got its fair share of wear and tear.
2 alternators.
1 battery.
2 times Right and left ball joints
1 time tie rods
1 battery (yes,just one)
2 full tune ups
1 starter
1 EGR valve
1 tranny
a total of roughly 6000-7000 dollars ( 1000 per year)
NOW,do you consider that a good or bad investment.if you have a 3/4 ton ( i am looking to buy one)you might go through 20% of what i went through.
But I still consider that this truck has helped alot start my busniss from part time to full time.
Some people might have differnt openions,I respect theirs.
But a ranger would make an excellent starter truck for light duty lawn business

martyman
04-21-2008, 03:27 PM
I use a jeep TJ...works great, snowplow with it too...nice to put the top down or remove the windows when it gets hot.

Turf Commando
04-21-2008, 03:37 PM
You can find a decent truck for 2K just keep eyes open ...

edgeman2003
04-21-2008, 04:12 PM
I'm going to try at the Mason-Dixon auction in PA near Hagerstown, MD.
I'm only five minutes away.

bruno_rs
04-21-2008, 06:06 PM
I'm going to try at the Mason-Dixon auction in PA near Hagerstown, MD.
I'm only five minutes away.

hey edge, good luck with the auction BUT be real careful... auction vehicles tend to be "pieces" dealers had a hard time selling and/or don't want on their lots. i always buy privately and like to "deal" with older people who take very good care of their stuff.

that's beautiful country down there. i went to college in emmitsburg, md (mt saint mary's)... 20 minutes south of gettysburg, pa... right on rt 15 south. haven't been back since i graduated, 20+ years ago, but if i recall hagerstown was pretty close. the mount was right in the middle of a bunch of huge farms... lots of good memories which included late night "cow tipping". is it built up down your way, or is it still somewhat rural?

good luck with your quest to find a GOOD used truck... they're out there, just need to take your time, know where to look AND what you're looking at! have a good one.

RLS24
04-21-2008, 07:39 PM
if you're spending <2 grand, find yourself a 88-98 Chvy 1500 or even a 2500 with a 350. I had an 88 with a 350 auto that had 198,000 miles and ran like a champ nothing at all wrong with it, and I also had a 98 GMC 1500 with a 305 5 speed with 260,000 miles, again nothing wrong with it ran great. only reason I would say get a 350 auto is the 305 5 speed didnt have any balls and you'll want that for towing. might have just been then the engine was tires because of the miles though. but you cant go wrong with a 88-98 GM full size.

Ed Ryder
04-21-2008, 10:42 PM
I've got an 86 F-150 that I'm simply not using. It looks beat, but it runs fine and there is less than 400 miles on it since it was last inspected (in July 2006).

Brand new battery. Tires are all excellent. Clutch has around 10,000 miles on it. 4.9 liter six cylinder. Engine has about 100,000 miles on it. I've owned it since July 1991. Let me know if you want more details.

edgeman2003
04-21-2008, 10:44 PM
hey edge, good luck with the auction BUT be real careful... auction vehicles tend to be "pieces" dealers had a hard time selling and/or don't want on their lots. i always buy privately and like to "deal" with older people who take very good care of their stuff.

that's beautiful country down there. i went to college in emmitsburg, md (mt saint mary's)... 20 minutes south of gettysburg, pa... right on rt 15 south. haven't been back since i graduated, 20+ years ago, but if i recall hagerstown was pretty close. the mount was right in the middle of a bunch of huge farms... lots of good memories which included late night "cow tipping". is it built up down your way, or is it still somewhat rural?

good luck with your quest to find a GOOD used truck... they're out there, just need to take your time, know where to look AND what you're looking at! have a good one.

Yeah, hagerstown is mostly all built up now. emmitsburg still seems the same to me, some new developments, not much. I'm just right over the mountain where
cunningham falls state park. Im about 25-30 minutes away. I was up there a few weeks ago looking a turf tiger at Harrington and Sons 427 E. Main Street
Nice guys, but found the same one in frederick,md $600.00 cheaper and free delivery.

bruno_rs
04-21-2008, 11:48 PM
if you're spending <2 grand, find yourself a 88-98 Chvy 1500 or even a 2500 with a 350. I had an 88 with a 350 auto that had 198,000 miles and ran like a champ nothing at all wrong with it, and I also had a 98 GMC 1500 with a 305 5 speed with 260,000 miles, again nothing wrong with it ran great. only reason I would say get a 350 auto is the 305 5 speed didnt have any balls and you'll want that for towing. might have just been then the engine was tires because of the miles though. but you cant go wrong with a 88-98 GM full size.

hey mike, i agree completely. a later 80's chevy with fuel injected 350 and a 700r4 (auto) tranny is the way to go. even with 200,000+ they have B@LLS, speed, great towing ability and good fuel economy... can't go wrong with that!

edge, rethink the auction... where you're at is truck country! there has to be a nice older chevy being babied by some older townie that hates to give it up but doesn't want 2 trucks in the driveway. frederick, md... boy that brings back some memories...

edgeman2003
04-25-2008, 02:01 AM
Okay guys I found a good truck. Its a 1989 chevy 1500 2wd with 8ft bed, EFI v8 5spd trans. It has no rust, minor color fade on the hood. Has no AC. Lots of new parts, engine and trans has been rebuilt(papers to prove it been rebuilt), it has 30,000 miles on both. The truck org miles 202,000. He wants $1,500 for the truck. He was selling it for $2,800. Since I work with this guy at my full time job and know that I really needed a truck. He told me That was the lowest he could go.that around the amount he has put in the truck in the past few years. The condition of the truck to me is good for the price. I was getting around the price for older trucks than this one, with rust and minor problems. what do you guys think?

edgeman2003
04-25-2008, 10:50 AM
anyone? please let me know what move should I make

bruno_rs
04-25-2008, 01:24 PM
Okay guys I found a good truck. Its a 1989 chevy 1500 2wd with 8ft bed, EFI v8 5spd trans. It has no rust, minor color fade on the hood. Has no AC. Lots of new parts, engine and trans has been rebuilt(papers to prove it been rebuilt), it has 30,000 miles on both. The truck org miles 202,000. He wants $1,500 for the truck. He was selling it for $2,800. Since I work with this guy at my full time job and know that I really needed a truck. He told me That was the lowest he could go.that around the amount he has put in the truck in the past few years. The condition of the truck to me is good for the price. I was getting around the price for older trucks than this one, with rust and minor problems. what do you guys think?

hey edge, gotta be quick i'm on lunch break. in my opinion, you should keep you eyes and ears open for a 4wd... this way you have something to make money with in the winter, as well. moreover, if you go 4wd, look for a truck WITHOUT a plow... this way you know it was not BEATEN too badly. snow plow set ups can be had and installed (by yourself) for 400-600, off season.

have to run, i'll check back later this afternoon. have a good one.

edgeman2003
04-25-2008, 02:30 PM
It doesnt snow much in maryland during the winter months. plus I work more at my full time job in the winter months. During the spring and summer and parts of the fall, I only work there about 28-32 hours a week. So I just only need a truck now to full the ztr(1350lbs ) and other euipment. Is the truck good for the amount hes asking?

aird208
04-25-2008, 02:43 PM
Toyota T-100. They will last forever and if you can get one with a long bed it'll hold tons of clippings, if you bag.

edgeman2003
04-25-2008, 05:24 PM
all I need to know is this a good buy are not? I don't have a lot of time to to find these different truck that U guys suggest.

KGR landscapeing
04-25-2008, 05:58 PM
all I need to know is this a good buy are not? I don't have a lot of time to to find these different truck that U guys suggest.

if you dont need 4wd then buy it seems like a deal.

bruno_rs
04-25-2008, 06:03 PM
Okay guys I found a good truck. Its a 1989 chevy 1500 2wd with 8ft bed, EFI v8 5spd trans. It has no rust, minor color fade on the hood. Has no AC. Lots of new parts, engine and trans has been rebuilt(papers to prove it been rebuilt), it has 30,000 miles on both. The truck org miles 202,000. He wants $1,500 for the truck. He was selling it for $2,800. Since I work with this guy at my full time job and know that I really needed a truck. He told me That was the lowest he could go.that around the amount he has put in the truck in the past few years. The condition of the truck to me is good for the price. I was getting around the price for older trucks than this one, with rust and minor problems. what do you guys think?

hey edge, it's kinda hard to say without (us) being able to see and/or hear the truck you're speaking of. keep in mind, it can be "rough" buying and/or selling among friends/associates. how well do you know this person, do you trust them, what if it turns out to be a P.O.S. ?... etc. i realize you need a truck NOW and do not want to miss a "good deal" but i would hate to tell you definitely buy it and on the ride home it cr@p out on you. do you know anyone who can take a look at it with you? if this guy is so sure of his truck he will not mind you bringing an expert to look it over.

just going by your description of the truck, i would say it is an ok deal. around my parts you can pick up a (decent) 2wd for $1000-1500. the truck may be on the high side but, if you feel this guy is trustworthy, i might just say take the plunge and buy it. who knows, if you show up with CASH IN HAND he may be willing to take a little less for it. i ALWAYS put the ball in the sellers court and ask for an ABSOLUTE BOTTOM LINE which will not hurt them... throws them off a little and makes em think. wish i could be of more help but, it's your money, business and call. good luck. have a good one.

edgeman2003
04-25-2008, 07:01 PM
he still drive the truck around. I'm going to be test driving it this week to see how well it is. the price he selling it for is just the amount he has invested in it. I trust him. Its already VA inspection, they do there every year there. In maryland it only once and your done as long as you own the vehicle.

bruno_rs
04-25-2008, 07:19 PM
he still drive the truck around. I'm going to be test driving it this week to see how well it is. the price he selling it for is just the amount he has invested in it. I trust him. Its already VA inspection, they do there every year there. In maryland it only once and your done as long as you own the vehicle.

hey edge, good luck... i hope it works out for you. have a good weekend.

bruno_rs
05-01-2008, 08:36 PM
hey edge, how'd you make out with that chevy you were going to test this week? let us know how you're doing with the truck hunt. have a good one.

edgeman2003
05-02-2008, 10:14 AM
I bought it yesterday and trying to get it on the road today

bruno_rs
05-02-2008, 09:03 PM
I bought it yesterday and trying to get it on the road today

hey edge, good for you! hope you're making money with it real soon. i know you were in the other thread, about an estimating vehicle... i posted a pic of my 56 and new toy... check it out and let me know what you think. good luck. have a good one.

edgeman2003
05-04-2008, 01:14 AM
got my temp tags, runs good so far. It a 88 chevy c/k1500 2wd with a 305 5spd. Post pics later

TandM
05-04-2008, 09:19 PM
buy an old toyota pickup with a 4 banger and get 20mpgs all day long pulling that little trailer. Or be like me and get 6mpg with a big block 440. cha ching the gas bill keeps getting more expensive.

edgeman2003
05-04-2008, 11:52 PM
buy an old toyota pickup with a 4 banger and get 20mpgs all day long pulling that little trailer. Or be like me and get 6mpg with a big block 440. cha ching the gas bill keeps getting more expensive.

no thanks, I not into fixing transmissions, engines on a 4cyl. I already bought an v8 chevy 88 1500. Plus that toyota not going to hold up puling around a 1400lbs turf tiger, and all the other equipment. I just pass the gas price over to the customer.

edgeman2003
05-06-2008, 11:42 AM
Here are some pics of my truck I got for $1,500.