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Back To Good
04-19-2008, 03:29 PM
I am trying out a TL130 this weekend and I turned on a small stump
and the front roller derailed.
How do I get it back on?
AWJ Services
04-19-2008, 03:34 PM
There is a side cover with 2 13 mm bolts in it.Remove it and there is a grease fitting under it.Unscrew it and grease will start coming out in a bleed port in the threads at the base of the fitting.Tkae a shvel and push back on the front roller till there is enough slack too get the track back on.Then tighten the grease fitting and strat filling it back up withe grease.
Back To Good
04-19-2008, 03:43 PM
Thanks AWJ. I guess I will have to be more carefull what I am running over.
The TL130 is an awsome machine. The first time I ran one I was not that
impressed, but the ground was frozen and I was only in it for about 15 min.
Now that I have run one more I am thinking about changing my order from
a CASE 440 to this TL130.
we will see after I get some more hours on it this weekend.
Thanks AWJ. I guess I will have to be more carefull what I am running over.
The TL130 is an awsome machine. The first time I ran one I was not that
impressed, but the ground was frozen and I was only in it for about 15 min.
Now that I have run one more I am thinking about changing my order from
a CASE 440 to this TL130.
we will see after I get some more hours on it this weekend.
Now lets not get carried away. The 130 is a good machine but it aint on the same field as a 440 (I am only slightly kidding AWJ. lol) Good luck.
Back To Good
04-19-2008, 04:14 PM
Now lets not get carried away. The 130 is a good machine but it aint on the same field as a 440 (I am only slightly kidding AWJ. lol) Good luck.
I am finding in my limited skid experience that you can't really compare the
skids with the CTLs. They are completely different machines.
I would like to have one of each.
They both have there pros and cons but I think for the work I am doing the
track machine will be better. They have been giving me a wheel machine
to use on my jobs until the 440 gets here but I am tired of spinning my tires
so I thought I would try out the 130 this weekend while I still have time
to cancel my order.
So far I am pretty impressed with the 130.
AWJ Services
04-19-2008, 04:14 PM
The TL 130 is a good Landscaping machine but it does not have enough lift capacity for most people.
If it will out do a 440 that would be a suprise.The 440 is a much larger machine.
Now if you said it was outdoing a T300 then I might believe you.:dancing:
Yea the 440 compares more favorably with the TL140.
Is the 440 you ordered wheeled or tracked (440CT)?
If your comparing the 130 to a wheeled 440 the tractive effort wont be close. Also is the 440 a series 3?
Dirt Digger2
04-20-2008, 01:36 AM
you are better off using a digging bar to get the front idle pushed in...also a trick is to unscrew the grease fitting then SLOWLY nudge the machine forward and the tension in the track will compress the front idler in, a lot easier then doing it by hand because there is no real place to jam a bar on those machines...then you will need to get the track started and have someone else move the side that is off front or back until the track pops back on...then add grease to proper tension in the tracks..
the 130 has a bad habit of popping front tracks, i can't tell you how many times i have done exactly what you said...accidentally turned on a stump wrong and off it went...my personal worst was 2 derailings in one day, and i have never been able to get them on by just myself (and i'm a pretty strong guy :weightlifter:...haha)...you will almost need someone to help
AWJ Services
04-20-2008, 01:40 AM
You dig the shovel blade into the ground and use it for a fulcrum point an dit just goes back fairly easy.
Then take the bucket and lift the machine as high as possible.
Use the machine too walk the track on.Just like a bicycle chain.
I did my TL140 by myself.
Back To Good
04-20-2008, 02:17 AM
Thanks for your help guys. Once I let the grease out I just slowly
drove it backwards and turn just a bit and it walked right back on.
Back To Good
04-20-2008, 02:40 AM
The TL 130 is a good Landscaping machine but it does not have enough lift capacity for most people.
If it will out do a 440 that would be a suprise.The 440 is a much larger machine.
Now if you said it was outdoing a T300 then I might believe you.:dancing:
The only real lifting I will be doing is of buckets full of dirt or concrete.
I am not sure without looking up the specs but I think the 130 has a little more lifting capacity than the 440 wheel machine and it feels like the 130 has more break out force.
I ran the TL130 for several more hours after I got the track back on and
I have to say the 440 does not seem like a much larger machine to me.
in fact it seems just the opposite to me except the hp.
The 440 has HP coming out of its ears but it does you no good if your wheels
are spinning.
I would bet the 440CT would be a monster of a machine but it costs
a lot more than the TL130. In fact the CASE 420CT is at least $6000 more
then the TL130 at my dealer.
I have this 130 for 2 more days so we will see how it does but as of
now I like the TL130 for the type of work I am doing.
Back To Good
04-20-2008, 02:45 AM
Yea the 440 compares more favorably with the TL140.
Is the 440 you ordered wheeled or tracked (440CT)?
If your comparing the 130 to a wheeled 440 the tractive effort wont be close. Also is the 440 a series 3?
It is a series 3 wheel machine.
The 440CT is outside my budget.
turboawd
04-20-2008, 02:22 PM
you'll definetly get a lot more productivity out of the track machine, especially the takeuchi ones. they are strong and affordable, thats a good combo.
AWJ Services
04-20-2008, 05:28 PM
The only real lifting I will be doing is of buckets full of dirt or concrete.
I meant in terms of pallets of sod or pallets of wall blocks.
The TL130 has power too spare.It has no competition in it's price range.
Nothing comes close.
You dig the shovel blade into the ground and use it for a fulcrum point an dit just goes back fairly easy.
Then take the bucket and lift the machine as high as possible.
Use the machine too walk the track on.Just like a bicycle chain.
I did my TL140 by myself.
A couple years ago I was working along side the Snake river with my TK TB53. The ground quickly turned to soup at the waters edge. As luck would have it the track that was in the water derailed. Soon the other track derailed. So I had both tracks off, and on the side closest to the river I was standing water/mud just over knee high. The only thing that sucks worse than putting tracks back on that machine is doing it partially submerged.
BIGBEN2004
04-21-2008, 09:25 AM
A couple years ago I was working along side the Snake river with my TK TB53. The ground quickly turned to soup at the waters edge. As luck would have it the track that was in the water derailed. Soon the other track derailed. So I had both tracks off, and on the side closest to the river I was standing water/mud just over knee high. The only thing that sucks worse than putting tracks back on that machine is doing it partially submerged.
Not trying to sound like a A$$, but why did both tracks derail? Did you not have them tight enough?:waving:
It was a side slope with a lot of cobble rock. I was trying to work the machine out and the combination between the slope, and rock it derailed.
Scag48
04-21-2008, 02:17 PM
Kaiser, have you ever pondered going to steel tracks? Doesn't seem that your scope of work would require rubber, I could be wrong. I've found that if you need rubber with the versatility of steel, McLaren's hybrid tracks are pretty sweet with the rubber bolt on pads, way better than the Roadliner style.
I may look into that when these tracks are burned off.
Dirt Digger2
04-21-2008, 10:48 PM
it just seems to me that steel tracks add a lot of weight and put a lot more strain on the drive motors
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