View Full Version : chainging oil... getting it all

04-20-2008, 11:12 PM
i am very anal about maintenece, and like everything to be perfect...
I have a 30 kohler on a lazer and can't seem to get maybe a quarter of a quart drained. This is on flat ground, and i am using on of those quick drain plugs with a tube. I am also taking the filter each time. DOES this engine hold excess oil, sould i crank the engine for a second to get the rest out?

04-21-2008, 12:47 AM
Get the engine warm, tilting the mower by having one side higher than the drain plug may speed it up, make sure the fill cap is off, I don't know what else you can do. That should drain it all out. There will be some still in the filter but you should get about 2 quarts overall if it was full before you started. I hope your having good luck after stealing it. What a deal.

Bill Kapaun
04-21-2008, 08:22 PM
It should drain better than that!
Try unscrewing the dip stick when draining. Maybe you are having a vent problem although it shouldn't be.

04-21-2008, 11:13 PM
yea, i did all the things as mentioned above, i think it may have been a vent lock or something of that nature, i will find out next time. P.S. - tacoma, the mower is awsome...

hole in one lco
04-21-2008, 11:19 PM
go 2 your parts store and buy a tube little bigger the your dipstick and put the tub on and blow all the oil will drain

Looking Good Lawn Service
04-21-2008, 11:41 PM
Warm up the engine first, then ramp the mower up, vent the system, take the dip stick out. DONT CRANK THE ENGINE TO GET EXTRA OIL OUT!!!! Im not typing in bold to be mean, just to make sure it is a big no no. It is like running the engine with no oil in it, prematurely wearing it out for no reason. dont worry about a lil bit of oil stuck in the motor, that is better than a worn or damaged engine. GOod luck

04-22-2008, 07:18 AM
What comes out comes out, don't worry about it. It all comes full circle.

04-23-2008, 12:55 AM
I crank every engine just a little to get the oil out. I have vehicles with over 300,000 miles and mowers with over 3,000 hours. If it has hurt the engines it must be a good hurt!

04-23-2008, 10:52 PM
I disagree that cranking it over will damage anything. If it was sitting for a period of time then i will always give a shot of wd-40 down the spark plug hole. But if i shut it down that day to change the oil i cannot see anything dire consequences on 2-3 slower pulls.

Looking Good Lawn Service
04-23-2008, 11:41 PM
I dunno, I wouldn't buy anything that someone has cranked with NO oil in it,lol...but anyways, There was an article in the Newspaper about the very same question, and the experts (certified auto specialists) said it was the absolute worst idea, and that it is highly unnecessary to crank the engine to remove a ludicrously small amount of oil left over in an engine. Think this way, if you had a new Benz would you crank the engine in that with no Oil? No, you wouldnt want to crank your mower with no oil either. Good luck, hope you dont do it.

Bill M
04-24-2008, 01:49 AM
50 percent of engine wear is on start up, so take that into consideration. By the way, I run a engine dynamometer for a living, so I'm not just a keyboard jockey.:)

04-25-2008, 04:12 PM
50 percent of engine wear is on start up
Thats another a completely different scenario though IMHO. When the engine is spinning hundreds of quick revolutions with ignition included naturally oiless parts are gonna rub/wear. But if the engine was running that day & you decided to change your oil that day,Just two or three half hearted pulls isn't gonna have you running to fetch/repair any required parts. Just 2-3 pulls on cord WiThOuT ignition/revs... naww no wreckage.

How i change my oil:

-After engine has cooled and sat somewhat, let oil drain about 20mins.
-Put oil plug loosely back on,Pour about 1/2 cup 5W30 into crankcase let sit 5mins,clean airfilter & deck to occupy myself.
- Drain 5w30, add 10w30..now my oil is nearly invisible on the dipstick/****'n'span clean until it starts to brown for the next oil change.

04-25-2008, 04:19 PM
yea, i change my oil when it is hot and drain it immediatly after shutdown. I tried the blowing into the dipstick with a tube and got more out. THanks. I guess i should just change it more freuently than reccomended and not worry.

04-25-2008, 05:19 PM
SLR Wrote: "- Drain 5w30, add 10w30..now my oil is nearly invisible on the dipstick/****'n'span clean until it starts to brown for the next oil change."

HUH! How in this tired ol world is the word ****'nspan obscene??

04-25-2008, 05:20 PM
WHAT! Are you kidding me.. the word is: s-p-i-c

04-26-2008, 09:43 AM
You are living in a sensative society

04-26-2008, 08:30 PM
Try an oil extractor.


04-27-2008, 01:44 PM
Try an oil extractor.