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mrmumbels
04-23-2008, 10:42 AM
I'd like to start a thread where everyone posts their Zoysia pics. I'm very curious to see how everyone elses zoysia looks.
Also, type of Zoysia, state located, and cutting height would be nice.

Mine's not doing to well:(

Empire Zoysia
Tampa, FL

http://www.coffeebrandy.com/pics/zoysia/IMG_3634.jpg

mowinginva
04-23-2008, 01:20 PM
If you saw a pic of my front yard!:confused: We have Zoysia in our yard - I don't know what kind it is. Half of our front yard was dug up to replace lines before we moved there, so it's kinda've uneven and spotty w/ grass. It is filling in some now but weeds are creeping in also. I'm thinking about getting a neighbor to dethatch it for me - I think it needs it. Do you dethatch yours? I might put a pic of the yard on sometime soon. We will, probably, mow at 3" this year. From reading another thread, I think we made a mistake last year by mowing it very short one or two times. We thought it would help!:cry:

mowinginva
04-24-2008, 10:33 AM
Ok, I'm kinda've embarrassed to post these pics, but would appreciate any help. You may be able to tell that one side has been dug up and is overrun with weeds worse than the other side. Like I said, we were cutting it at 3" last year and cut it very short a time or two and it didn't come back well. It hasn't been cut yet this year. Here it is.:confused:
We will have lived here 2 years in Sept.

mrmumbels
04-24-2008, 12:22 PM
wow mowinginva, I think yours might be worse than mine.

Chestnut Oaks Prez
04-25-2008, 12:49 AM
Don't have any good ones yet but I can beat those:)
2 year old yard. Empire in upper South Carolina. 2"

Chestnut Oaks Prez
04-25-2008, 12:56 AM
sorry! gettin too late

mrmumbels
04-25-2008, 04:37 PM
sorry! gettin too late

Looks pretty good chestnut!

Here's mine from last year when i actually liked it.

http://www.coffeebrandy.com/pics/house/sodding/Image000415.jpg

Chestnut Oaks Prez
04-26-2008, 12:57 AM
Oh Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

Accu-cut Lawn Care
04-27-2008, 01:18 AM
My avatar is Zoysia cut at 3.25 inches. That pic was taken years ago. Now, I have a good weed control and fert program that has really got that account going. I'll post some pics once it's fully green.

Ducke
04-27-2008, 09:49 AM
Ok, I'm kinda've embarrassed to post these pics, but would appreciate any help. You may be able to tell that one side has been dug up and is overrun with weeds worse than the other side. Like I said, we were cutting it at 3" last year and cut it very short a time or two and it didn't come back well. It hasn't been cut yet this year. Here it is.:confused:
We will have lived here 2 years in Sept.

This looks like a job for ..........WEED MAN !

mowinginva
04-28-2008, 04:18 PM
I might post another pic of my lawn after I get it dethatched and it greens up. Yea, and after it is mowed. The weeds will, probably, still be there though.:cry:

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-02-2008, 12:09 AM
A couple from today. still ain't there yet

mrmumbels
05-02-2008, 09:18 AM
A couple from today. still ain't there yet

Looking good though!. Mine's definately greened up alot this week. I got some patches now that are so thick that when i walk on them i don't hit the ground unless I bounce a little :)
Then I have patches that are totally dead :(

mrmumbels
05-08-2008, 03:34 PM
can you spot the zoysia in this image?

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=nq3zdg83xfgw&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&cam=28.222416~-82.433997&scene=28859218&phx=0.151059601349997&phy=-0.141421670725463&phscl=4.09260659730011&encType=1

And this was after i scalped it from 4 inches to 1 inch...

this was taken around december timeframe i believe

microsoft is kicking google's but in the mapping dept!

dave k
05-08-2008, 04:06 PM
I'd like to start a thread where everyone posts their Zoysia pics. I'm very curious to see how everyone elses zoysia looks.
Also, type of Zoysia, state located, and cutting height would be nice.

Mine's not doing to well:(

Empire Zoysia
Tampa, FL

http://www.coffeebrandy.com/pics/zoysia/IMG_3634.jpg
Whats your home e-mail, I can forward you a few pic's of my yard taken last year in the drought, I have Emerald Green Zoysia and it was cut with a Locke Reek at .75 inch, I don't know how to download a picture on here, if you want you can post it after I send it to you, I just bought a JD 2365 Tri plex to cut it, we need rain real bad and we are on a total outdoor watering ban. I live near Athens GA.
Dave

mrmumbels
05-08-2008, 05:05 PM
I am posting these for dave k. This is his emerald Zoysia lawn up near Athens, GA

Very nice cut!

http://www.coffeebrandy.com/posts/DSCF0564.jpg
http://www.coffeebrandy.com/posts/DSCF0570.jpg
http://www.coffeebrandy.com/posts/DSCF0571.jpg
http://www.coffeebrandy.com/posts/DSCF0572.jpg
http://www.coffeebrandy.com/posts/DSCF0573.jpg
http://www.coffeebrandy.com/posts/DSCF0578.jpg
http://www.coffeebrandy.com/posts/DSCF0579.jpg

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-08-2008, 07:50 PM
Mr M, I think I would have claimed that pic and not give Dave credit:)
That thing looked good!
Ours should be right next week, weren't too bad today.

dave k
05-09-2008, 09:12 AM
Thanks, The lawn is cut @ .75" and it was taken during our 100 year drought here in Ga. The Tru Cut was my back up mower, I used my Locke to cut it mainly, Emerald is so thick the mowers almost wants to slide all over the lawn, I now have a JD Tri Plex to cut it, the Emerald faired real good since we are on a total outdoor watering ban, and probably will be all summer long.

mrmumbels
05-09-2008, 09:38 AM
Mr M, I think I would have claimed that pic and not give Dave credit:)
That thing looked good!
Ours should be right next week, weren't too bad today.

ya i wish i could have claimed them

mrmumbels
05-09-2008, 09:39 AM
Thanks, The lawn is cut @ .75" and it was taken during our 100 year drought here in Ga. The Tru Cut was my back up mower, I used my Locke to cut it mainly, Emerald is so thick the mowers almost wants to slide all over the lawn, I now have a JD Tri Plex to cut it, the Emerald faired real good since we are on a total outdoor watering ban, and probably will be all summer long.

were all your neighbors lawns dead?

what do you do with your grass clippings?

mrmumbels
05-09-2008, 10:30 AM
Thanks, The lawn is cut @ .75" and it was taken during our 100 year drought here in Ga. The Tru Cut was my back up mower, I used my Locke to cut it mainly, Emerald is so thick the mowers almost wants to slide all over the lawn, I now have a JD Tri Plex to cut it, the Emerald faired real good since we are on a total outdoor watering ban, and probably will be all summer long.



this is what you have?
http://www.deere.com/en_AU/images/cce/golf_turf/triplex_mower/2500b_443249.jpg

dave k
05-09-2008, 11:24 AM
No I have a JD 2653A with a Yanmar Diesel, it has only 720 hours on it, he paid 15k for it and I gave him 9k, pretty darn good deal, it looks brand new.

dave k
05-09-2008, 11:28 AM
were all your neighbors lawns dead? No, most lawns here at Bermuda 419, if not watered they go into a semi dormant state and recover when it rains, they get very thin though.

what do you do with your grass clippings?

I let the clipping fly, never bag them, I do sand my yard with river sand to get it smooth and aerate the heck out of it 2 times a year to get air and water down in this JOGA clay.

mowinginva
05-09-2008, 12:17 PM
I'm planning to borrow my neighbors dethatcher and dethatch ours. Might aerate it also. My neighbor has one of those also. We might eventually put some top soil down and sow some more seed. It is looking better now.:)

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-11-2008, 01:30 AM
Zenith zoy comin in:cool2:

mrmumbels
05-12-2008, 04:19 PM
looking good chestnut. I was away this weekend, but as of friday we've had some crazy humidity and my lawn now just seems to be taking off.

mowinginva
05-13-2008, 05:45 PM
looking good chestnut. I was away this weekend, but as of friday we've had some crazy humidity and my lawn now just seems to be taking off.

Hmmm, maybe that's what mine needs - some humidity.:)

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-16-2008, 10:56 PM
Zenith, will have some Emerald tomorrow
Forgot to take pics after we cut:confused:

mowinginva
05-21-2008, 04:37 PM
Beautiful!:)

mrmumbels
05-21-2008, 04:49 PM
it just isn't fair

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-22-2008, 11:25 PM
couple from today
1-Empire 2-Not a good thing Empire
3-Empire
4-Emerald
5-Cavalier
6-Emerald

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-22-2008, 11:29 PM
last Emerald! We are verticuting this yard Wed. A nasty job. Glad we haven't mulched.

mowinginva
05-23-2008, 01:42 PM
What is verticuting, may I ask?

k911lowe
05-23-2008, 01:45 PM
it doesn't grow well in the desert climate,contrary to their advertising.tried it years ago with disastrous results.sticking to good old bermuda.

branman
05-23-2008, 02:12 PM
Here is a pic of the healthier part of my ultimate flora Zoysia in Orlando, FL.

branman
05-23-2008, 02:17 PM
Here are some pics of the brown patch fungus damage. Soil test showed a potassium deficiency, so I corrected last week and recovery is coming along.

mrmumbels
05-23-2008, 02:34 PM
ew get that stuff away from me

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-23-2008, 07:34 PM
unusual here, but we have seen so winter kill spots here, We normally see that in Bemuda and Centipede only. Not that cold of winter either:confused:

mrmumbels
05-23-2008, 07:41 PM
well brannman, looks liek you just got dumped with rain. Maybe that'll help

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-23-2008, 11:44 PM
What is verticuting, may I ask?

Slicing the ground to get the thatch out. Will make that yard look like a dry hay field in about 2 hrs. I will post pics next Wednesday. Here is a couple from today.
These are Zenith :cool2:

mrmumbels
05-27-2008, 07:46 PM
Here are some pics of the brown patch fungus damage. Soil test showed a potassium deficiency, so I corrected last week and recovery is coming along.http://www.lawnsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=109658&stc=1&d=1211562880


after looking at this pic again. my empire zoysia on the back lawn did the same exact thing this winter. Wonder what's causing it.

MJS
05-27-2008, 08:18 PM
Figured I'd join in - this is Empire Zoysia, mowed at 1.5".
These pics are from last year in July. The zoysia is still waking up this spring.

And yes, I do get paid extra to mow it with a 21". Wish it were my lawn. :)

109969

109970

109972

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-30-2008, 09:23 PM
Verticut pics. Pic 3 & 4 are before and after. This will make this yard so much better but it's a nasty clean-up.:hammerhead:

mowinginva
06-02-2008, 12:31 PM
What a job! Ours, probably, needs that. We pulled a small dethatching rake around w/ our ztr, but it, probably, needs rougher treatment.:) The zoysia is coming out a bit better now w/ the warmer weather we're having, but the weeds are abundant as well.:cry:

hurley'sland22
06-02-2008, 01:32 PM
Fescue is the best

MyKisa
06-04-2008, 06:58 PM
I cut 35 zoysia lawns at 1 1/2 ", they are good and flat, then I have another 70 that I cut @ 2" due to angles. I find the worst thing you can do is overfertilize.

Chestnut Oaks Prez
06-07-2008, 12:22 AM
Couple from this week. Zoysia and Bermuda are killin our Fescue's with this heat.

mowinginva
06-10-2008, 01:11 PM
Once again, they are beautiful!:)

dave k
07-25-2008, 12:56 PM
What is the best way to keep Bermuda out of a Emerald green Zoysia lawn? I have tried Fusillade II but it seems like when you spray it the Zoysia gets hurt and by time it recovers the Bermuda is back, This year I have tried roundup and low and behold it still comes back, I have tried spraying it in large areas to kill it but it seems the roots must not die, I'm sick of it, next house its Tiftsport Bermuda. Any help is appreciated, I cut it with a reel at 1" Atlanta area.

mrmumbels
07-25-2008, 03:49 PM
have fun. as far as I know they have about the same resistance to the herbicides. I'm lucky my neighbor has flortam st aug, I can pee on the property line and his stuff dies.

dave k
07-25-2008, 05:32 PM
How is your lawn coming along since you posted with the dead and dying spots?

mrmumbels
07-25-2008, 06:15 PM
looking much better but it's still not very drought tolerant. we've been getting rain twice a day all summer so i'm sure that helps

Junior M
07-25-2008, 11:03 PM
Verticut pics. Pic 3 & 4 are before and after. This will make this yard so much better but it's a nasty clean-up.:hammerhead:
what exactly is that? and how do you clean it up?

Chestnut Oaks Prez
07-25-2008, 11:42 PM
what exactly is that? and how do you clean it up?

A bunch of blades like edger blades that cuts the ground and pulls out the thatch. Much better than a dethatcher. Looks like a dry hay field when done. Then we go over it with the Walker GHS mower and suck it up. Usually a hopper full about every 20'.

Junior M
07-26-2008, 12:39 AM
A bunch of blades like edger blades that cuts the ground and pulls out the thatch. Much better than a dethatcher. Looks like a dry hay field when done. Then we go over it with the Walker GHS mower and suck it up. Usually a hopper full about every 20'.
ok one more question when you go back over it with the walker doesnt it put some of the thatch back into the grass?

Chestnut Oaks Prez
07-27-2008, 09:29 PM
ok one more question when you go back over it with the walker doesnt it put some of the thatch back into the grass?

Are you kiddin? With a Walker cuttin at 1.5" with a GHS system, you almost suck up the dirt:laugh:

mrmumbels
07-27-2008, 10:25 PM
Are you kiddin? With a Walker cuttin at 1.5" with a GHS system, you almost suck up the dirt:laugh:

what a waste of top soil :)

benjammin
08-21-2008, 08:58 PM
I put down 3500 square feet of Empire Z from Oakland Plantation about two months ago. It's grown in pretty good but took a lot of work. I started with old winter rye, weeds, ruts and a high pH. I've been fighting moles but I think I got rid of them. I'll top dress for a few years to get it as smooth as I'd like but cutting it high hides most of the imperfections.

http://a79.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/57/l_a5ed798141e830326ad27390b6fa030e.jpg

http://a700.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_c856cf84f0a4591fbcaf70ff70279b73.jpg

Chestnut Oaks Prez
08-21-2008, 09:06 PM
Looks good Ben!
Empire is my favorite of them all:)

mrmumbels
08-21-2008, 09:07 PM
any real close up shots? Looks great in the pics. Mine developed alot of low n high spots after the first year and now seems to not be doing so well in the low spots. i'm guessing it's from too much water but i can't stop the rain... How are you top dressing and with what?

[QUOTE=benjammin;2477020]I put down 3500 square feet of Empire Z from Oakland Plantation about two months ago. It's grown in pretty good but took a lot of work. I started with old winter rye, weeds, ruts and a high pH. I've been fighting moles but I think I got rid of them. I'll top dress for a few years to get it as smooth as I'd like but cutting it high hides most of the imperfections.

ericmcj31
08-21-2008, 09:11 PM
I put down 3500 square feet of Empire Z from Oakland Plantation about two months ago. It's grown in pretty good but took a lot of work. I started with old winter rye, weeds, ruts and a high pH. I've been fighting moles but I think I got rid of them. I'll top dress for a few years to get it as smooth as I'd like but cutting it high hides most of the imperfections.

http://a79.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/57/l_a5ed798141e830326ad27390b6fa030e.jpg

http://a700.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/78/l_c856cf84f0a4591fbcaf70ff70279b73.jpg


she needin' a job?

mrmumbels
08-21-2008, 09:13 PM
i knew somone would say it

benjammin
08-21-2008, 09:17 PM
mrm:
I'll get some closeups along with before and after cutting pics this weekend.

I filled in some low spots and gaps about a month ago with a mix of bagged topsoil and sand from on my property. If I can keep the moles out for another few weeks I'll go ahead and just get a truckload of sand delivered.

benjammin
08-21-2008, 09:18 PM
she needin' a job?

I keep her busy.

benjammin
08-21-2008, 10:09 PM
cropped a pic for an attempt as some close-up detail:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2784949537_2574875f14.jpg?v=0

mrmumbels
03-17-2009, 09:48 PM
It's that time again. Anyone want to post their zoysia pics? I'll get my golden zoysia pics up this week.

The Elements Group
03-17-2009, 11:40 PM
why are you cutting the zoysia soooo high?

mrmumbels
03-17-2009, 11:47 PM
Who? And what is considered high?
why are you cutting the zoysia soooo high?

weasel
03-18-2009, 12:33 AM
Do most of you use reel mowers for zoysia? Is that the only lawn type that you cut? Just wandering if you had to haul different mowers for different lawns.

riverwalklandscaping
03-18-2009, 01:39 AM
Chestnut go back to post #12... the 2nd pic... house has got to be the ugliest house I've ever seen lol... Looks like the siding is a bunch of plywood with some gray paint sponged on. Stupid Disney style shutters... wow I wouldn't live there for free. Nice landscaping though!

benjammin
03-18-2009, 09:31 AM
why are you cutting the zoysia soooo high?

If you are refering to my pic in Post #65...I like it like that. And it's not that high, only about 2.5". That's within the recommend Empire Zoysia length.

I could post some pics but it's still dormant, not much to look at yet.

mrmumbels
03-18-2009, 09:39 AM
I prefer around 2.5 also. It's more drought tolerant and can handle cutting off more than you should.

Benjamin, did yours ever get thick. Mine looked about the same until the 2nd year. Now small children can just about walk on top of it.

benjammin
03-18-2009, 09:56 AM
mrmumbels: It looked like the pics all season. Hopefully it'll be nice and thick year (2nd year) and the moles will stay away.

mrmumbels
03-18-2009, 10:04 AM
is it in full sun? My back lawn gets a little shade and never got the full thickness as the front.

mrmumbels: It looked like the pics all season. Hopefully it'll be nice and thick year (2nd year) and the moles will stay away.

benjammin
03-18-2009, 10:20 AM
Mostly full sun but now that you mention it, the side that got the least sun was definitely "thinner".

mrmumbels
03-18-2009, 10:53 AM
if you can ever get your hands on some ultimate flora zoysia you should check it out. maybe in a spot that doesn't connect with your other zoysia. i put some under a tree in my back lawn and even though it's thin from the shade, it looks like it would be much nicer than the empire. much thinner blades and a prettier green. also since it was developed by the college here in gainesville it's more drought tolerant and supposedly better in a few more ways.

Mostly full sun but now that you mention it, the side that got the least sun was definitely "thinner".

2brothersyardcare
03-18-2009, 06:01 PM
looks good well some of it

mrmumbels
03-18-2009, 08:03 PM
AND THE SCALPING BEGINS!


http://coffeebrandy.com/posts/zoysiaspring2009/image01.jpg
http://coffeebrandy.com/posts/zoysiaspring2009/image02.jpg
http://coffeebrandy.com/posts/zoysiaspring2009/image03.jpg
http://coffeebrandy.com/posts/zoysiaspring2009/image04.jpg
http://coffeebrandy.com/posts/zoysiaspring2009/image05.jpg
http://coffeebrandy.com/posts/zoysiaspring2009/image06.jpg
http://coffeebrandy.com/posts/zoysiaspring2009/image07.jpg
http://coffeebrandy.com/posts/zoysiaspring2009/image08.jpg

benjammin
03-19-2009, 01:08 PM
I "striped" a portion of my zoysia.:laugh:

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/2/l_1d9f227940a747399117dcfbfee69a87.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/43/l_a7607a91cd704d9cba66c5d85abee9ff.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/41/l_58f2224c1cf34822b8efcd6e5bda9928.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/24/l_5129f57a3bba4787a2422e195785f120.jpg

and then I dug it up!

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/45/l_f28a4a3c2229400b99cabb4eeb29bd53.jpg

and extended my back yard

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/24/l_fa58a58e2e0049b0b5018970a6a6d7af.jpg

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/57/l_451358d534a443e285ace95cb6ba70ad.jpg

mrmumbels
03-19-2009, 03:18 PM
[QUOTE=benjammin;2863896]I "striped" a portion of my zoysia.:laugh:

are you putting in a new porch or extend the concrete back there?

benjammin
03-19-2009, 03:50 PM
I "striped" a portion of my zoysia.:laugh:

are you putting in a new porch or extend the concrete back there?

According to my wife I'm "decking the yard". I wanted to do a stone patio but I don't have the time, money, or skills to lay that much stone. I'll be decking over the concrete and extending out.

benjammin
03-19-2009, 03:58 PM
speaking of "scalping", I may do some of that myself this weekend. My grass is starting to show signs of life but really I just want to get the leaves up without raking or blowing. The previous pictures were from a week-and-a-half ago and since we had a few days of blowing rain and I have a bunch of leaves to deal with (again).

mrmumbels
03-19-2009, 04:10 PM
you don't want thatch either. That stuff doesn't disintegrate like most grasses do.

mrmumbels
03-19-2009, 04:20 PM
According to my wife I'm "decking the yard". I wanted to do a stone patio but I don't have the time, money, or skills to lay that much stone. I'll be decking over the concrete and extending out.

i just got finished a second coat of stain today ;)

http://coffeebrandy.com/posts/deck/photo.jpg

benjammin
03-19-2009, 04:52 PM
http://coffeebrandy.com/posts/deck/photo.jpg

That is exactly what I would love to have.
cheers

benjammin
04-06-2009, 11:44 AM
Deck is almost done and Zoysia is greening up.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/107/l_5e6e8015d95447348f80ced48375d517.jpg

benjammin
04-06-2009, 11:52 AM
As a reminder, I have Empire Zoysia, sod layed last year, early June.
Question: When can I "top dress"?
And I'm assuming I can use fine mortar sand just like I did on the centipede front yard.

I want to top dress to level out minor imperfections left from fighting with moles last year and compensate for sod thickness variations.

mrmumbels
04-06-2009, 12:01 PM
As a reminder, I have Empire Zoysia, sod layed last year, early June.
Question: When can I "top dress"?
And I'm assuming I can use fine mortar sand just like I did on the centipede front yard.

I want to top dress to level out minor imperfections left from fighting with moles last year and compensate for sod thickness variations.

I'd wait until it starts growing fast. If you do it while its semi dormant you'll probably be left with patches of dirt for a while.
And they always recommend to top dress with the same soil you have in your yard not to cause layers of different soil.

Deck looks great!

benjammin
04-06-2009, 12:08 PM
Thanks mrmumbels. I figured I needed to wait for the Z(the centipede is already growing). and I want to make sure the moles are going to stay away, I haven't had much luck with that. Regular doses of cayenne pepper/castor oil seems to work the best but has to be done every month or so. So far the moles seem to be staying outside the treated areas. I just noticed them again in the last week or two, and the traps have been re-set. I killed three with traps last year and who knows how many with the 40 poison worms.

My back yard is a weird transition from pure beach sand to organic rich, upland wooded wetland.

mrmumbels
04-06-2009, 12:11 PM
Thanks mrmumbels. I figured I needed to wait for the Z(the centipede is already growing). and I want to make sure the moles are going to stay away, I haven't had much luck with that. Regular doses of cayenne pepper/castor oil seems to work the best but has to be done every month or so. So far the moles seem to be staying outside the treated areas. I just noticed them again in the last week or two, and the traps have been re-set. I killed three with traps last year and who knows how many with the 40 poison worms.

My back yard is a weird transition from pure beach sand to organic rich, upland wooded wetland.

Wow, I can't imagine having moles... or beach sand. grass probably doesn't like that too much

benjammin
04-07-2009, 11:25 AM
Wow, I can't imagine having moles... or beach sand. grass probably doesn't like that too much

Grass doesn't seem to mind the sand, just gotta add water. The moles on the other hand:wall:wall

Here's an aerial of my "beach" (my house is the top one on the right)
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/60/l_afd054dbc77695c7c4171a3e422680c5.jpg

mrmumbels
04-07-2009, 12:31 PM
i solved your problem
http://www.rodenator.com/pests-controls-videos-rodenators

benjammin
04-07-2009, 01:42 PM
:blob2:

hahaha

If there was a "rodenator for hire" I would.

Until then, I'll keep stomp'n, trap'n, 'n, spray'n.

cheers

dave k
04-19-2009, 04:12 PM
Mr. M
Here is the pic of my JD Reel

Lawnworks
04-19-2009, 05:11 PM
I'd wait until it starts growing fast. If you do it while its semi dormant you'll probably be left with patches of dirt for a while.
And they always recommend to top dress with the same soil you have in your yard not to cause layers of different soil.

Deck looks great!

I would use sand. Please tell me why golf courses ONLY topdress with sand. Plus, if you have low spots, the sand will let the water perc through the root system and prevent root rot.

dave k
04-19-2009, 05:28 PM
Mr. M
For some reason, since I previously downloaded these pic's on another thread
Show me your JD Pic's or something like that, when I try and re download them it says I already have posted them, so anyway, at least I got these two for ya, you can go to the other thread and check it out.
Dave

Lawnworks
04-19-2009, 05:32 PM
Sweet mower! I just installed some emerald and want to reel mow. How much do you have in that one?

dave k
04-20-2009, 06:23 PM
Sweet mower! I just installed some emerald and want to reel mow. How much do you have in that one?

The guy I bought it from got it from JD and paid 15k, I bought it from him for 9k, only had 720 hours on it, it has the Yanmar Diesel, I love it.
I bought a used Toro sidewinder, fixed it up and sold it, made a small profit and saw this in Craigs list and jumped on it.

mrmumbels
05-05-2009, 07:13 PM
bump to the top

benjammin
05-06-2009, 09:39 AM
ahhhh what a tease, I thought I was gonna get to see some pics.
I guess I'll post some tonight.

benjammin
05-13-2009, 09:47 AM
I wanted to post this in a "What's this growing in my yard?" thread.
;-)
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/86/l_f71f5f0f77214a05a4f4be6df5234ff3.jpg

benjammin
05-13-2009, 10:07 AM
Color is off, color/white balance is actually somewhere inbetween the following photos.

This sod (Empire Z) went down less than a year ago. The brown sections are places where the sod was thin and/or mole damage. I'm going to top dress with mortar sand in the next week or two and hopefully everything will fill in. EZ is not considered a fast spreader/grower but in just a few months last summer and fall there were runners around the edges about 2 feet long.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/103/l_d66e8a848fd14ccd86de1785ad74a055.jpg

This is the shadiest area and is taking longer to green up (mole damage in foreground).
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/104/l_ab6ab72fc71844ac8a706fbb8ed95286.jpg

Pansies and Snap Dragons put in last fall, still looking good.
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/82/l_e0af6c98e67246fe8d94bc633f42e04a.jpg


Thin section of sod, I've got my fingers crossed for this area.
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/109/l_50ce7b8aed194b21817e3960f6042627.jpg

benjammin
05-13-2009, 11:36 AM
couple more:
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/80/l_c803ccbb16f74922917a286a082bb5e2.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/97/l_e57f84035bde465f98d41336e75214dc.jpg

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/109/l_69c5a29326b74b3dafa23b76f342adce.jpg

benjammin
05-13-2009, 11:37 AM
I did cut just after these pics but sorry, no post-cut pics. Maybe next week.

gomowdig
05-13-2009, 12:20 PM
I have zoysia Z52 for my lawn. This time of year the zoysia comes out slow due to cool nights. (Zoysia likes warm nights above 55 degF to really turn green. As a result, I mow infrequently and get a lot of these seed looking pods in the lawn. I think they are sterile and present no problem. Just mow them away. I mowed yesterday for the first time in three weeks and had a lot of them. You have my guess, but you might google for the outfit in Maryland that sells plugs and call them for expert advice.

benjammin
05-13-2009, 12:46 PM
I have zoysia Z52 for my lawn. This time of year the zoysia comes out slow due to cool nights. (Zoysia likes warm nights above 55 degF to really turn green. As a result, I mow infrequently and get a lot of these seed looking pods in the lawn. I think they are sterile and present no problem. Just mow them away. I mowed yesterday for the first time in three weeks and had a lot of them. You have my guess, but you might google for the outfit in Maryland that sells plugs and call them for expert advice.


Thanks for the reply, I wasn't implying any concern [thus the previous "wink" ;-) ] But I thought it would be funny to post as if I was concerned and see what the replies would be. And thanks for the cool night info. We (Zone 8, southeast, coastal NC) were above 55 the last week or two but last night was 48 http://www.phpbbplanet.com/beepeople/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif
and this weekend the low is 55.

cheers

benjammin
05-19-2009, 10:13 AM
One week later and the weather still isn't helping my Z, only 50 last night.:dizzy:

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-24-2009, 11:30 PM
Sorry I've been so slack but here's a few

STIHL GUY
05-25-2009, 12:18 AM
i havnt seem any of that around here. at least i know none of my accounts are zoysia

JShe8918
05-26-2009, 03:40 PM
After looking at this thread i am almost scared to sod my yard with emerald zoysia. It seems like there are more lawns that have problems than good ones. I want my yard to look like the ones Chestnut Oaks yards. I understand it takes lots of work to do through. Everything is looking good guys.

dave k
05-26-2009, 04:05 PM
If I had to do it all over again, I would not use Emerald, would stick with a TiftSport Bermuda or maybe Zeon Zoysia. Live and learn.;:dizzy:

benjammin
05-26-2009, 04:16 PM
I'm happy with my Empire Z. I don't know why you don't see much of it around here.

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-26-2009, 10:03 PM
I hate Emerald!!!!!!!!!! I love Empire and Meiers the wide blade stuff. Not near the thatch buildup that Emerald has.

dave k
05-26-2009, 10:12 PM
I hate Emerald!!!!!!!!!! I love Empire and Meiers the wide blade stuff. Not near the thatch buildup that Emerald has.

Yea, Prez, uhhh what is your first name????
Have you had alot of fungus problems and or grub problems this year? My 23k sq. feet of Emerald just about went to Emerald heaven but is coming back after spending mooko $$$$$$$....:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
Dave

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-26-2009, 10:57 PM
Yea, Prez, uhhh what is your first name????
Have you had alot of fungus problems and or grub problems this year? My 23k sq. feet of Emerald just about went to Emerald heaven but is coming back after spending mooko $$$$$$$....:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
Dave

Deano! We had a little fungus on some empire but not Emerald. No grubs yet.
Thank gooddness I only have one Emerald yard left.:hammerhead: We have 7 Empires. It is hard to make Emerald look real good without a reel mower.

dave k
05-26-2009, 11:07 PM
Deano! We had a little fungus on some empire but not Emerald. No grubs yet.
Thank gooddness I only have one Emerald yard left.:hammerhead: We have 7 Empires. It is hard to make Emerald look real good without a reel mower.
Yea, I know what you mean about making it look good, even with my tri plex the tires like to slide on the turf its so thick when its in mid form. Hard to keep a straight stripe at least for me it is...... I had 200 plus grubs in the lawn and mucho fungus.:cry:

JShe8918
06-08-2009, 08:38 PM
I want to mow my yard with a reel mower. I have been pricing them out all day. New JD 2653B which is a 72" is 25900 delivered or a used lease return is 12200 delivered. Just got to decide on the sod variety. I am so CONFUSED!! NOW WHERE ARE SOME MORE PIctures!!!!!!!! Lets see those yards. i want to see dave k yard once mowed with his JD...

dave k
06-08-2009, 11:42 PM
I'll see if I can take some pic's tomorrow, my Emerald is recovering from heavy Grub and Fungus problems but is slowly by surely coming back.

cgaengineer
06-09-2009, 12:42 AM
Forget zoysia...its PITA...I will post pics of my minimal effort 419 lawn in the morning if DSL is working. Dave has seen my bermuda and it looks fantastic...
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cgaengineer
06-09-2009, 07:25 AM
Why would anyone want zoysia when bermuda looks this good?

My Tif 419 cut at 1/2" with Tru-Cut P20

dave k
06-09-2009, 08:18 AM
Looking good AMEMAN, heading back to the lake to finish off those tree's.:weightlifter:

JShe8918
06-09-2009, 02:19 PM
Why would anyone want zoysia when bermuda looks this good?

My Tif 419 cut at 1/2" with Tru-Cut P20

now that is awesome....

tstutz
06-09-2009, 07:11 PM
some looks great others look terrible

Chestnut Oaks Prez
06-09-2009, 07:29 PM
Why would anyone want zoysia when bermuda looks this good?

My Tif 419 cut at 1/2" with Tru-Cut P20

I didn't know Bermuda could be that green. If that is yours it looks great. Don't see a house so could be a golf course.:)

cgaengineer
06-09-2009, 08:20 PM
I didn't know Bermuda could be that green. If that is yours it looks great. Don't see a house so could be a golf course.:)

Thank you for the compliment...

Got no reason to lie...straight out of my Nikon D200, no color manipulation, shot on jpeg basic to reduce file size, same golf ball and one of my business cards. The other picture was right after reel mowing, this is from today.

JShe8918
06-09-2009, 08:34 PM
NICE REALLY NICE... makes me want to change my mind...

cgaengineer
06-09-2009, 08:47 PM
NICE REALLY NICE... makes me want to change my mind...

Thanks, I would if I were you.

dave k
06-10-2009, 06:46 PM
OK, here are pic's of my Emerald recovering from fungus and grubs, its making a slow comeback, just cut it when the rains started to fall, the golf ball is lite up from the flash, it's cut at .75".
The grass in the far back is a stressed Thermal Blue KBG

cgaengineer
06-10-2009, 10:17 PM
Copy cat golf ball man!

dave k
06-10-2009, 10:22 PM
Apples to apples man!:laugh:

Chestnut Oaks Prez
06-10-2009, 10:27 PM
Thank you for the compliment...

Got no reason to lie...straight out of my Nikon D200, no color manipulation, shot on jpeg basic to reduce file size, same golf ball and one of my business cards. The other picture was right after reel mowing, this is from today.

Man, That stuff is on steroids. Best looking bemuda I can remember, Congrats!

cgaengineer
06-10-2009, 10:40 PM
Man, That stuff is on steroids. Best looking bemuda I can remember, Congrats!

Thanks man, nothing but cow manure topdress and Home Depot fertilizer, 3 apps so far this year, 1 pre-m in the spring.... Will shoot another pic tomorrow...just cut tonight. Neighbor stopped while walking the dog and asked why I cut it so short...I told her "its bermuda, its supposed to be short" she said "We heard it was supposed to be 2 inches to keep the sun off the roots"

I didn't tell her what I was thinking in the back of my mind...."Well that's why your lawn looks bad and mine looks good"

dave k
06-10-2009, 10:43 PM
Deano & Chris
You think the 2 crape's take away from the front of my home?
Looking at it, I think the home would look better with them gone?
Dave

cgaengineer
06-10-2009, 10:44 PM
Apples to apples man!:laugh:

Did you get those widow makers cut up?

dave k
06-10-2009, 10:50 PM
Cut up and stacked in a nice pile!
Called it the day after that, it was really hot, felt like taking a swim in the lake!:)

cgaengineer
06-10-2009, 10:50 PM
Deano & Chris
You think the 2 crape's take away from the front of my home?
Looking at it, I think the home would look better with them gone?
Dave

Now that you mention it yes, want me to bring my saw and my winch? If you dig them up I will take them and have a spot for them at my house.

dave k
06-10-2009, 10:58 PM
Dream on........:laugh:

cgaengineer
06-10-2009, 11:01 PM
Dream on........:laugh:

All joking aside you should move them, or at least trim them very low.

dave k
06-11-2009, 09:35 PM
Nope, no crape myrtle murder from me.
Move maybe, maybe selective thinning of some branches, the one on the left isn't nearly as full as the one on the right.

cgaengineer
06-11-2009, 09:41 PM
Not murder, just even them up a bit. I cut one off nearly to the ground at my moms last week...hope it doesn't come back...I'm sure it will though. Did you get a rain shower today...we did.
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Chestnut Oaks Prez
06-11-2009, 10:42 PM
Dave, my wife said that house is too pretty to be covered up by them. So I guess I would have to move them:laugh: I would let Chris come and move them for them.
Chris, We topdressed 2 fescues with CM and they were green a month before all the others. I have a bermuda that we will try that on next year. It is worth the smell.:laugh:
New landscape pics just loaded.

dave k
06-11-2009, 10:47 PM
Dave, my wife said that house is too pretty to be covered up by them. So I guess I would have to move them:laugh: I would let Chris come and move them for them.
Chris, We topdressed 2 fescues with CM and they were green a month before all the others. I have a bermuda that we will try that on next year. It is worth the smell.:laugh:
New landscape pics just loaded.
Thanks Dean, I guess its a project for the fall, wanna help?

dave k
06-11-2009, 10:50 PM
Not murder, just even them up a bit. I cut one off nearly to the ground at my moms last week...hope it doesn't come back...I'm sure it will though. Did you get a rain shower today...we did.
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It came and went real fast, will finish trimming the bushes tomorrow and maybe next week put down the mulch and top dress the front and the thin areas in back! My back already hurts from just thinking about it!:laugh:

cgaengineer
06-11-2009, 11:13 PM
Yes Dean, cow manure is the bomb!!! I plane to do another lite dressing before July but I really need to figure out a way to break it down into 1/4" or smaller pieces...any suggestions? I have sources for plenty of CM so I won't be running short...might try chicken manure next season!!!
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dave k
06-11-2009, 11:25 PM
Yes Dean, cow manure is the bomb!!! I plane to do another lite dressing before July but I really need to figure out a way to break it down into 1/4" or smaller pieces...any suggestions? I have sources for plenty of CM so I won't be running short...might try chicken manure next season!!!
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mulching mower

cgaengineer
06-12-2009, 12:19 AM
I used my mulching mower and it worked pretty well actually...I may do that again...without some sort of hammermill I don't think its possible prior to spreading.
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Chestnut Oaks Prez
06-21-2009, 12:35 AM
Here's an Empire Zoysia from Friday

dave k
06-21-2009, 08:51 AM
Dean, what do you keep the Walker set at, 1.5"?

Chestnut Oaks Prez
06-21-2009, 03:23 PM
Dean, what do you keep the Walker set at, 1.5"?

Just moved up to 2" this week. Was starting to scalp a little.

cgaengineer
06-21-2009, 04:24 PM
Just moved up to 2" this week. Was starting to scalp a little.

Cut that sucker with a reel and the scalping is a non issue!! I wonder if the client would pay for a reel cut?

benjammin
09-29-2009, 09:39 AM
Just a reminder, from the spring:http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/102/l_d938e06d85424321ad02a16128f6a6a9.jpg
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/103/l_d66e8a848fd14ccd86de1785ad74a055.jpg


and this is from a few weeks ago, before the dollar spot hit. :(

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/30/l_1ccf8774ca1f4966b3f259379d2ce978.jpg

I still want to do a serious top dressing, maybe in the spring.

dave k
09-29-2009, 04:00 PM
Well just an update on my Zoysia, it recovered fully from the grub damage and fungus this past spring, also used the cocktail of Fusilade II and Turflon Ester. This combo works wonders to kill/control Bermuda with no effect at all on the Emerald Zoysia! I will do a seperate post hopefully with pictures, will know for sure if the Bermuda is dead on just controled by this combo. It is dead now, or brown when the Zoysia is green! Below is the link with all the info on the cocktail mix to kill the Bermuda!:clapping:

http://www.gcsaa.org/GCM/2006/oct/pdfs/McElroy_SuppresBermuda.pdf

Good luck!:waving:

mrmumbels
09-30-2009, 09:08 AM
Well just an update on my Zoysia, it recovered fully from the grub damage and fungus this past spring, also used the cocktail of Fusilade II and Turflon Ester. This combo works wonders to kill/control Bermuda with no effect at all on the Emerald Zoysia! I will do a seperate post hopefully with pictures, will know for sure if the Bermuda is dead on just controled by this combo. It is dead now, or brown when the Zoysia is green! Below is the link with all the info on the cocktail mix to kill the Bermuda!:clapping:

http://www.gcsaa.org/GCM/2006/oct/pdfs/McElroy_SuppresBermuda.pdf

Good luck!:waving:

thanks for the link, I have the same problem. My empire Z is looking pretty good this year though. I'll take some pics this weekend

Chestnut Oaks Prez
10-12-2009, 10:21 PM
A pic of my son's yard after Zeon Zoysia has been down 2 months. First pic was the day we laid it. Should have waited a day after cutting before pics. Cut at .50 inch

dave k
10-12-2009, 10:27 PM
Does he use a reel to cut at 1/2"?

Chestnut Oaks Prez
10-12-2009, 10:41 PM
Does he use a reel to cut at 1/2"?

Yep! Trucut 19"

dave k
10-12-2009, 10:45 PM
Top dress it next spring and it will cut alot better.
You get much rain last night Dean? Had 4" here in JoGa.

Chestnut Oaks Prez
10-12-2009, 11:07 PM
Top dress it next spring and it will cut alot better.
You get much rain last night Dean? Had 4" here in JoGa.

All day today! bout 2"
Good for those freshly reseeded fescues:clapping::clapping:

Chestnut Oaks Prez
10-12-2009, 11:56 PM
Hey Dave, not to hijack this thread but when we got rained out I went for a tour today. Guess who's race shop.

dave k
10-13-2009, 08:58 AM
Deano, I give up, would that be Tony Stewart?

JShe8918
10-13-2009, 10:57 AM
I am very jealous of your sons zeon. Back when i was getting ready to sod my yard i found it to be one of the best all around forms of Zoysia.

benjammin
10-13-2009, 12:18 PM
Nice rain day Prez! I had assumed Tony's shop was in Indiana though.

mrmumbels
11-10-2009, 04:46 PM
My zoysia sucked this year. Not even worth pictures :( Same ole problem with crappy shallow roots causing the grass to dry up all the time and barely grow in most areas. I wish I had a Zoysia expert in the area.

MO Junior
11-10-2009, 05:05 PM
Here is a property where we installed Zoysia this summer. It is the only warm season grass that grows well around here. It does go down early in the season and is the last to green up in spring around here.

mrmumbels
11-10-2009, 05:30 PM
there's some curb appeal!

dave k
01-18-2010, 08:26 PM
Dave, my wife said that house is too pretty to be covered up by them. So I guess I would have to move them:laugh: I would let Chris come and move them for them.
Chris, We topdressed 2 fescues with CM and they were green a month before all the others. I have a bermuda that we will try that on next year. It is worth the smell.:laugh:
New landscape pics just loaded.

Deano
The Crapes are history, actually it only took about 15 minutes each to dig out, wasn't no were as bad as I thought it could have been.
Planted them out back, will take a pic this spring when things green up.
The home does look better!

pitrack
01-20-2010, 07:29 PM
Just a reminder, from the spring:

and this is from a few weeks ago, before the dollar spot hit. :(

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/30/l_1ccf8774ca1f4966b3f259379d2ce978.jpg

I still want to do a serious top dressing, maybe in the spring.

Screw the lawn, more pics of the girl?;)

benjammin
04-19-2010, 02:39 PM
bump

Starting to green up here in SE NC. I just scalped and spread 2 yards of sand, still need at least 2 or 3 more yards of sand to level more low spots, not sure that will happen this year. I'll try to post some pics soon.
Anyone else have anything to report?

mrmumbels
04-19-2010, 07:36 PM
Benjamin, Have you scalped before? I chose not to this year and I think it actually worked out for the better.

I gave in this year though and hired Scotts lawn service. Did I do bad?

For the last 2 years my Zoysia here in Tampa has had no roots at all therefore it just dries up after a day or 2 without rain.

Anyone got pics from the Tampa area?

dave k
04-19-2010, 07:45 PM
I think you can find a better local person to spray your yard, look at the best looking lawns in your area and ask them who they use.
Never heard anything good about Scotts, post this on the fertilzing site and get their take.

benjammin
04-20-2010, 11:29 AM
mrmumbels: "Scalped" may be a little harsh, I gradually let the Z get longer (to about 3 inche) slate in the season last year. I cut it back to about 1 inch with some lower (uneven) spots.
I've never used Scott's but have used a few local and "chain" companies for one-time fungicide apps. I do my own soil testing in the spring and grannual fert apps as recommeded by NC Ag Ext test results. I don't like signing up for 5 or 6 pre-determined apps.
While Zoysia is said to be drought tolerant I still see signs of drought stress without watering every other day.

benjammin
04-22-2010, 02:38 PM
Some NC Z info for you mrmumbles
Water to a soil depth of 4 to 6 inches. Probe with a screwdriver to determine moisture depth. Zoysiagrass needs a weekly application of 1 to 1 1/4 inches of water. On sandy soils, it requires more frequent watering, for example, 1/2 inch of water every third day. It is often necessary to irrigate an area for three to five hours to apply 1 inch of water. (It takes 620 gallons of water to apply 1 inch of water per thousand square feet.) ...A dark, bluish gray color, footprinting, and wilted, folded, or curled leaves indicate that it is time to water. Proper irrigation may prevent or reduce pest problems and environmental stress later in the summer.

I'm assuming Tampa is sandy

mrmumbels
04-29-2010, 04:13 PM
I've tried everything Benjamin. I don't know what else to do.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE TAMPA AREA THAT CAN LOOK AT MY LAWN AND TELL ME WHY IT HAS NO ROOT SYSTEM?!!!!!

All this talk about how amazing empire zoysia is....I think it's sucks!

dave k
04-29-2010, 04:20 PM
I've tried everything Benjamin. I don't know what else to do.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE TAMPA AREA THAT CAN LOOK AT MY LAWN AND TELL ME WHY IT HAS NO ROOT SYSTEM?!!!!!

All this talk about how amazing empire zoysia is....I think it's sucks!

I wonder if you have mole crickets?
Is the sand wet under the turf? If not you must have that sugar sand where the water rolls off it like it does on a duck. Probably only think that would help that is aeration with top dressing.

Did you have the same problem with your other turf that you had before the Zoysia?

mrmumbels
04-29-2010, 05:11 PM
I wonder if you have mole crickets?
Is the sand wet under the turf? If not you must have that sugar sand where the water rolls off it like it does on a duck. Probably only think that would help that is aeration with top dressing.

Did you have the same problem with your other turf that you had before the Zoysia?

Never seen a Mole cricket around. And now that I know what they are, I just saw one in Wallgreens the other day. Ugliest things ever.

Sand is dry under the turf. And i wish it was sugary, it's more like baby powder :)

There was barely any grass when I moved in a 4 yrs ago since it was rented and not taken care of.

Chestnut Oaks Prez
04-29-2010, 08:15 PM
A couple from last week

dave k
04-29-2010, 08:22 PM
Never seen a Mole cricket around. And now that I know what they are, I just saw one in Wallgreens the other day. Ugliest things ever.

Sand is dry under the turf. And i wish it was sugary, it's more like baby powder :)

There was barely any grass when I moved in a 4 yrs ago since it was rented and not taken care of.

Well when I lived in Fl. that is what they called it, it is rather fine sand, if you pour water over it, it rolls right off, have you asked an county extension agent about it and what can be done with the sand if it is sugar sand? I would give them a call tomorrow.

mrmumbels
04-29-2010, 10:45 PM
Well when I lived in Fl. that is what they called it, it is rather fine sand, if you pour water over it, it rolls right off, have you asked an county extension agent about it and what can be done with the sand if it is sugar sand? I would give them a call tomorrow.

Yes I've actually had my soil tested and they said it's fine with much organic material and very high npk

tallrick
04-30-2010, 11:57 AM
From my experience zoysia grows just fine on sand as long as it gets regular waterings. Grubs are the main insect problem in well watered and fertilized lawns and a constant headache. The liars who advertise empire zoysia as low maintenance always make me sick. A high-end client of a friend of mine had installed empire zoysia sod and it looked good, for a while. The problem is that the previous owner let the yard go and the soil was too compacted for the roots to penetrate. Right next door a yard full of zoysia matrella thrives with no care. That lawn was put down in the 60's from plugs bought from a local nursery. If you can control the grubs I believe that the weedy matrella form of zoysia is the best choice for Florida and it thrives in sand.

Caterkillar
04-30-2010, 06:53 PM
Why would anyone want zoysia when bermuda looks this good?

My Tif 419 cut at 1/2" with Tru-Cut P20

Nice lawn! I still love my emerald zoysia though. Emerald almost has a sheen in the sunlight.

Chestnut Oaks Prez
04-30-2010, 09:54 PM
Look at the difference in Zenith cut at 2" with Walker and 1.5 with reel mower. Just thought it looked good with Walker

JShe8918
05-01-2010, 01:07 PM
Look at Prez moving on up! Zoysia looks awesome reel mowed! OH and Dave the bank is greening up i am going to hit it with some fert this week. I am about to take photo's now! I am happy. Your right i just need to be patient. We also had two nights of warm weater so that should help out alot! It got down to like 69 last night here. Whoop Whoop!!!

cgaengineer
05-01-2010, 02:16 PM
You need a roller on that TruCut Prez...let me know if interested and I will put you in touch with the fellow who makes them right down the road from me...he makes them for all types of reels.
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Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-01-2010, 03:10 PM
Sorry, Ordered one for it when I picked it up. Should be in this week.

Caterkillar
05-01-2010, 08:11 PM
You need a roller on that TruCut Prez...let me know if interested and I will put you in touch with the fellow who makes them right down the road from me...he makes them for all types of reels.
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What does the roller do?

I had intentions of reel mowing the emerald zoysia at my shop. I may need to do some more topdressing, but now I don't know if I want the hassle of the reel mower.

cgaengineer
05-01-2010, 08:22 PM
Sorry, Ordered one for it when I picked it up. Should be in this week.

Chances are he made it anyway...its all good. I'd be willing to put money an it coming from Braselton.
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cgaengineer
05-01-2010, 08:23 PM
What does the roller do?

I had intentions of reel mowing the emerald zoysia at my shop. I may need to do some more topdressing, but now I don't know if I want the hassle of the reel mower.

The roller smoothes out the low spots.
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Caterkillar
05-01-2010, 08:28 PM
The roller smoothes out the low spots.
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I gotcha. So it helps give it a more uniform cut? How long does it take you to reel mow your yard? I think my shop lawn is probably similar maybe a little bit smaller. I think I have about 6k sq ft. How long would that take to reel mow with your typical 26"ish mower?

cgaengineer
05-01-2010, 08:30 PM
It would take about 20-30 minutes.

Yeah its helps give a more uniform cut, it also adds a bit of weight to the front of the mower since they are usually pretty light in the front.

My reel is a 30".
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Falcon50EX
05-01-2010, 08:33 PM
It's from last year but i hope to get it into shape this year. :usflag:

dave k
05-02-2010, 04:16 PM
Look at Prez moving on up! Zoysia looks awesome reel mowed! OH and Dave the bank is greening up i am going to hit it with some fert this week. I am about to take photo's now! I am happy. Your right i just need to be patient. We also had two nights of warm weater so that should help out alot! It got down to like 69 last night here. Whoop Whoop!!!

Jonathan, I TOLD YOU SO! :laugh:
Are you looking to start back up or are you looking for a job per your avatar?
I thought you had the job behind the bank..

dave k
05-02-2010, 04:19 PM
What does the roller do?

I had intentions of reel mowing the emerald zoysia at my shop. I may need to do some more topdressing, but now I don't know if I want the hassle of the reel mower.
It also keeps your reel from scalping if its a Locke, on the Tru Cuts it will make the stripe look on the turf, more profound looking than it does without it.
Plus it adds weight to the front if you don't use the catcher

dave k
05-02-2010, 04:23 PM
Look at the difference in Zenith cut at 2" with Walker and 1.5 with reel mower. Just thought it looked good with Walker

Deano
How much more do you charge the customer for cutting with the reel? or do you keep it at the same price?

JShe8918
05-02-2010, 06:59 PM
Jonathan, I TOLD YOU SO! :laugh:
Are you looking to start back up or are you looking for a job per your avatar?
I thought you had the job behind the bank..


Haha. I do have a job! I work at Marvins and do this. I am back in business too though. I bought a new zero turn on wednesday. Thanks for asking. I always for get about pictures till i sit down at my computer. Shucks!

Chestnut Oaks Prez
05-02-2010, 07:59 PM
Deano
How much more do you charge the customer for cutting with the reel? or do you keep it at the same price?

Nah! it is a little more and and just the fronts mainly. My legs hurt alot more with the reel mower than the Walker. LOL and my thumb also, need a thumb extender.:laugh:

cgaengineer
05-02-2010, 08:40 PM
If I was ever to offer reel mowing it would be fronts only unless I had a tri-plex.
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JShe8918
05-02-2010, 08:45 PM
If I was ever to offer reel mowing it would be fronts only unless I had a tri-plex.
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Dave offers full service reel mowing! LoL. Jk.... With those machines of yours it wouldn't be too hard! I found a great deal on some JD 2653A's are with low hours for pretty cheap! They are all 82" or 84" cuts though. I forget which it is!

JShe8918
05-07-2010, 01:32 PM
So since no one else is posting up photos i will post some progress photo's of green up. The sod hasn't even been down for a full year. It wasn't mowed properly last year nor this spring. I scalped it two weeks ago. The first set of photo's is of the pre scalping. And then the second set is of it yesterday after a week and a half of growth. I don't have anyphotos of it right after the scalping but i can tell you this it looked scary! I am fertilizing it next week and going to mow it monday. Lots of work has to be done to this place. Beds have to be re edged new mulch or straw, fertilizer, and sanding.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Capstone%20Zoysia%20before/IMG_4852.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Capstone%20Zoysia%20before/IMG_4855.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/Capstone%20Zoysia%20before/IMG_4851.jpg

Now!!

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4947.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4950.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/Jonathan818_2007/My%20yard%202010/IMG_4954.jpg


It is a work in progress thats for sure. I believe it has already made some improvements! Such as now it is weed free. Celsius really does work awesome. We have sprayed it on bermuda, zoysia, centipede, and Saint augustine with EXCELLENT results!

Caterkillar
05-08-2010, 12:12 AM
I think zoysia sod shrinks after it has been layed down as sod. Any way to avoid this? It seems it is always necessary to top dress the year after it is sodded.

cgaengineer
05-08-2010, 12:52 AM
I think zoysia sod shrinks after it has been layed down as sod. Any way to avoid this? It seems it is always necessary to top dress the year after it is sodded.

If you install it with the beveled edges matching it should fit together with minimal gaps.
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JShe8918
05-08-2010, 01:13 AM
I agree with Chris! The banks sod and landscape job was done by a cheapscape that made it look decent when he installed everything but used crappy soil and products! I wish banks and other businesses didn't go with the cheapest bid but went with a medium price with good quality! Do it right or buy it twice! That is what i always say!

Chestnut Oaks Prez
08-01-2010, 11:41 AM
couple from recent

secretsqwerl
09-15-2010, 08:09 PM
Had some issues with the hot dry wx but overall my best year yet.

RadiantLawnCare
09-15-2010, 08:29 PM
Had some issues with the hot dry wx but overall my best year yet.
Looks like you need a tri-plex mower.

secretsqwerl
09-15-2010, 08:37 PM
Only if you'll buy it for me!

dave k
09-15-2010, 09:00 PM
Had some issues with the hot dry wx but overall my best year yet.
Looks good, Is that Emerald Green?
Have you topdressed your lawn?
Where in JOGA are you?

secretsqwerl
09-15-2010, 10:22 PM
yes
No I need to!
Douglasville

dave k
09-15-2010, 10:30 PM
what height do you cut at? I have been cutting mine at .75"
It was higher because it got so thick so i bought heavier rollers to make it hit the ground, it works so i have some brown spots still, it may not recover this year.
Do you find it hard keeping a straight line on the Emerald? My Locke is all over the place on it, slides like crazy on it, My 2500 Tri Plex does good.

dave k
09-15-2010, 10:32 PM
Had some issues with the hot dry wx but overall my best year yet.

BTW, what did you mean by hot dry wx? What does wx mean?


Do you do your own fertilizing? I use Arbor Nomics, but prior to this year had been doing it myself, wanted to give them a try

secretsqwerl
09-16-2010, 03:18 PM
Yes my mower wanders like a drunken hobo if I'm not mowing down grain. I've thought about trying to find a roller with grooves (seen on greens mowers) but I don't know if that'd even work.

I use the turf management plan on Peachtree Mowers website. Scotts fertilizer and all.

I was cutting at 3/4 inch but now I'm up to almost 1 inch because 1. the hot dry wx (weather) makes my grass need more water at the lower height to make it look good. 2. the grass is growing so fast I'm real close to removing more than a third of the blade with my weekly mowing schedule.

Now if I could only figure out how to prevent the zoysia from getting into my flower beds and keep dog spots off.

dave k
09-16-2010, 04:19 PM
Just keep them edged every week and that should do the trick, my Walker even slides on the turf but my Tri Plex does ok, if you need your turf sanded call Mark Guzman of Bulican Landscape, he has done all of my properties and he is recommended by PT Mowers as well, he does a great job.
My Locke because of the drive wheels and steering wheel makes me look drunk with the stripes, my Legacy that i had was better with the drive roller like yours and my old Tru Cut did good to.
Good luck
BTW If you get Bermuda in your turf I can give you a link on a good cocktail of herbicides to control it without harming your Emerald, you can do a search on LS, its been posted here as well, works extremely well.

secretsqwerl
09-20-2010, 01:38 PM
Dave, can you tell me more about Bulican Landscape. I can't get any info via google.

What and when did they do for you?

dave k
09-20-2010, 06:22 PM
He aerated my yard, scalped it and sanded it, he did it a couple years ago in June, you can call him to see if it still can be done this late since its so darn hot here. Here is his phone # 404-266-2978. He should be in the phone book.
He's the best....
His name is Mark Guzman, tell him I sent ya< let me know what he said...

dave k
11-01-2010, 01:49 PM
Can you send me the scotts program, PT Mower is closed today.
Thanks
Did you ever contact Mark Guzman from Bulican?

secretsqwerl
11-01-2010, 03:46 PM
No I haven't called yet... I won't till next Feb/Mar.

www.reelmowers.net is where you can download the Turf management plan. Works well!

Later.

dave k
11-01-2010, 04:11 PM
No I haven't called yet... I won't till next Feb/Mar.

www.reelmowers.net is where you can download the Turf management plan. Works well!

Later.

Do you think its to late to do the last app for Oct, it said to do on Oct 15 and here its 11/1?

secretsqwerl
11-01-2010, 06:44 PM
Actually, it'd be good to do tomorrow before the rain comes. Imho.

dave k
11-01-2010, 06:59 PM
I'm going to pass, especially since i just treated the lawn for large patch, fungus loves N

secretsqwerl
12-02-2010, 04:48 PM
Back yard still looking good on December 2.

The front has started to go dormant.

dave k
12-02-2010, 05:22 PM
looking great, my turf is beginninng to go dormant as well, frost hit it hard.
How tall is your turf, 1"?

benjammin
04-22-2011, 11:17 AM
I'll get some pics of Empire Z this weekend. Finally started to grow and did my first cut last night but too dark for any pics. I did a mild "scalp" a few weeks ago and ran the mower around another time or two just too pick up leaves.
I need to check if I have pics from the end of last year, I was fighting a fungus and now you can still see where the worst of it was. I already had one fungicide app this year and will be doing monthly preventative apps all seaon. :fingerscrossed:

Anybody else got some Z pics to share?

benjammin
04-22-2011, 11:39 AM
opps
double-post

mrmumbels
04-22-2011, 12:02 PM
opps
double-post

Wow, my zoysia is so ugly this year. All dried up with no roots as usual.
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benjammin
04-22-2011, 12:11 PM
http://www.coffeebrandy.com/pics/house/sodding/Image000415.jpg


Well here's to the good ol' days!

mrmumbels
04-22-2011, 12:14 PM
Ugh I wish I could have that again. Back when my neighbors would ask me if they could walk barefoot on my lawn.
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mrmumbels
04-22-2011, 07:17 PM
Anyone have any tricks to get organic material back into the soil?

dave k
04-22-2011, 07:32 PM
Aerate and topdress it.

mrmumbels
04-22-2011, 07:42 PM
That's actually whatni was planning in doing. The rental place down the road has an aerator but it's not a core aerator. Will it make a difference? I was thinking about top dressing with alfalfa pellets then raking it into the holes.
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dave k
04-22-2011, 09:15 PM
Yes a Core Aerator is the way to go, add some organic matter such as compost etc as well
Good luck

dave k
04-23-2011, 09:29 PM
This would work out great, Super Sod sell's it in a huge plastic ice cube looking conatinet> Here's a link
http://soil3.com/applications/gardening

benjammin
04-25-2011, 11:37 AM
Sorry still no pics for me to post, hopefully soon.
But mrmumbels, I would recommend core-aerating and topdressing too.
I looked at doing it myself last year but the rental price was about the same as hiring someone. I did not topdress last year but will this year. I have the aeration scheduled for next week and then I'm topdressing with a thin-thin layer of compost and 1/4 to 1/2 inch of mortor sand.
Good luck, please post some pics too.

benjammin
05-16-2011, 10:20 AM
Well after 3 fungicide applications already this year and portions of my Empire Z still failing to green up and green sections starting to look worse I figured out why. Hunting BillBugs. They were everywhere Saturday morning. I immediately throw out some Bifenthrin (Lowes had it on sale).

Here's the NC Turf Files link for Hunting BillBugs: http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/insects/Hunting_Billbug.aspx

Maybe that's your issue too mrmumbles.

mrmumbels
05-16-2011, 10:46 AM
Well after 3 fungicide applications already this year and portions of my Empire Z still failing to green up and green sections starting to look worse I figured out why. Hunting BillBugs. They were everywhere Saturday morning. I immediately throw out some Bifenthrin (Lowes had it on sale).

Here's the NC Turf Files link for Hunting BillBugs: http://www.turffiles.ncsu.edu/insects/Hunting_Billbug.aspx

Maybe that's your issue too mrmumbles.

Na, I've only seen two billbugs in 5 years and they weren't even near my lawn. For it's the lack of organic material in the soil. I've been experimenting like crazy and alfalfa pellets are showing amazing results. After 5 years I have a portion of my lawn looking like it was when it was new. Scheduling a aeration this week and dropping some alfalfa and peat moss down the holes. You'd be amazed how alfalfa turns your grass green. I haven't seen that dark green in 5 years! I have posts all over the internet on multiple forums. I wish there was a zoysia-only forum where we could keep all the zoysia info together. t u r f g r a s s dot c o m is where I have most and also g a r d e n w e b dot c o m. I'm finally starting to see alot more zoysia posts with the same exact issues I've been having for the last 5 years.

benjammin
05-16-2011, 12:36 PM
Good luck mrmumbles. I just aerated too. I may try some organic topdressing next year. I topdressed with mortar sand to try and level out the bumps. Luckily I'm on a well and can water everyday.
I registered at turfgrass dot com years ago but never went back. Just read a bunch of posts there and I'll post more there now too.

benjammin
05-18-2011, 11:01 PM
I almost forgot to take "before" topdressing pics, I just got started and then pulled out the camera.
Empire Z Pics "before":http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3711.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3750.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3749.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3724.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3720.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3719.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3718.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3715.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3714.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3712.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3709.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3708.jpg

benjammin
05-18-2011, 11:10 PM
after:
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3734.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3737.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3739.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3741.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3742.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3745.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj233/_benjammin/2011%20Lawn%20and%20Garden/IMG_3748.jpg

benjammin
05-19-2011, 04:28 PM
Hey mrm, how about some pics of your alfalfa experiment?

mrmumbels
05-19-2011, 09:26 PM
Hey mrm, how about some pics of your alfalfa experiment?

I'll get some up soon. My lawn is still pretty crappy but there's one alfalfa area that is as beautiful as the first year I layed the sod. The stuff definately greens things up. You should get a bag and do a test on a 5x5 section just to see what happens. I just threw a couple more bags out on the next half of the lawn. It'll probably be a few years before my organics really start kicking in but I'm impressed so far. By By chemicals!

PS: The alfalfa is great for your hands :)

mrmumbels
05-19-2011, 09:28 PM
It would be really nice to get a zoysia forum started on this site. It's actually a vbulletin forum with much better features than turfgrass.com and gardenweb.

dave k
05-20-2011, 09:15 AM
It would be really nice to get a zoysia forum started on this site. It's actually a vbulletin forum with much better features than turfgrass.com and gardenweb.

well then start one! I'm in......:clapping:

mrmumbels
05-20-2011, 09:43 AM
well then start one! I'm in......:clapping:

That would be tough since I'm not an admin on this site :) I'll email them to see if they could setup a turf specific forum.

dave k
05-20-2011, 10:01 AM
That would be tough since I'm not an admin on this site :) I'll email them to see if they could setup a turf specific forum.
Now you're talkin.......:)

mrmumbels
05-20-2011, 10:05 AM
Now you're talkin.......:)

Shot down already :( They would probably need some sponsors to get it going.

dave k
05-20-2011, 08:30 PM
Shot down already :( They would probably need some sponsors to get it going.
win some, loose some, money talks....

YoungClay
07-08-2011, 03:35 PM
Some of you have probably already seen these pics in my ongoing rennovation thread...but anyways, here they are for those of you who havent. Full rennovation thread is here: (lots of before and after pics) http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=294680

My ~30,000 sq ft lawn is 80-90% seed established Zenith Zoysia. I think I ended up having to put down 4 pallets of sod in various areas where the seed got washed out. and then put down another 3 pallets last year when we had to remove a dying Magnolia tree.

I cut my grass about once per week at 2.75" with a rotary JD LT133 that I bought of Craigslist for $600...I bag my clippings and sharpen my blades about once a month.

As far as fertilization goes, I've been applying about 1/2 lb of nitrogen in the form of 18-24-12 every 40 days...if I go over 50 days without feeding it, I start to notice rust fungus.

I am seeing how long I can go this year without any sort of irrigation. So far, mother nature has been doing her job...lawn looks great right now.

Since my rennovation in 2009, I havent done any sort of aeration. I am thinking about getting someone to come out and plug it for me here pretty soon.

Here are a few pics I took last week right before I put down 100 lb of fertilizer:
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd396/YoungClayB/photo-2.jpg
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd396/YoungClayB/photo2-2.jpg
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd396/YoungClayB/photo3-2.jpg
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd396/YoungClayB/photo1-2.jpg
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd396/YoungClayB/photo1-3.jpg
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd396/YoungClayB/photo5.jpg
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd396/YoungClayB/photo4-1.jpg
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd396/YoungClayB/photo3-1.jpg

Penscape Landscaping
07-08-2011, 07:24 PM
How much seed and prep was needed? Im thinking of converting!

YoungClay
07-08-2011, 11:45 PM
I used about 1.5 lbs of seed per 1000 sq ft. Be sure to mix the seed with dry play sand to improve your chances of even distribution. I think that I used 1 part seed for every 4 parts sand, but how much you cut it is up to you.

When it comes to site prep, you can literally spend however much you want to and it can get expensive. At a minimum, you'll want to till and loosen the soil and either power rake or till in some organic matter. I put down 4 tractor trailer loads of compost at about $500 per load but it paid off bigtime.

Check out my renovation thread that I mentioned above for more info and let me know if you have any questions along the way.
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mrmumbels
07-11-2011, 06:54 PM
Hey youngclay,

Does Zenith get dark like empire? I't sbeautiful but it does seem fairly light in the pics. Mine's the same way right now from all the rain here.

mrmumbels
07-11-2011, 06:55 PM
It's a bit roughed up closest to the camera because it is so thick. The rotary loses it's touch in the thick stuff.
I just dropped down some alfalfa pellets so it should be a nice dark green by next week.
http://mrmumbels.com/zoysia/zoysia3.JPG

dave k
07-11-2011, 07:14 PM
So what did you do to get it to grow with that sugar sand that you had?
Looks alot better than what it was, congrats!