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jds1469
04-24-2008, 12:35 AM
i have this crappy corner of my back yard where my deck meets my house and i really cant find anything to with it. Because its under my window i was thinking of a running water feature. please anyone give me some ideas. these where taken at night. where the dirt pile is, is where i was thinking of putting my waterfall or whatever.

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STL Ponds and Waterfalls
04-24-2008, 05:14 PM
What do you want? What does your wife/girlfriend want? Do you have any of the componants such as liner rocks boulders etc. Do you just want a pond or a pondless waterfall. What type of budget do you have? How big is the area and how big do you want it?

jds1469
04-24-2008, 07:53 PM
my wife dosnt really care what I want. I was thinking a pond but my dogs spend a lot of time out there and that could be a mess. so pondless. as for a budget $600 - $1000 or so. I do not have any materials as of now..... its really the fact its right by my house and deck I'm sure what to do there

Lite4
04-24-2008, 08:00 PM
You need a pondless core drilled boulder or pot. That space is way too small for a standard waterfall. Besides, you will get much better sound with a cored boulder fountain.

Venturewest
04-24-2008, 10:33 PM
I second the bubbling rock or pot that "disappears" into river rock. It is a very small space to try build a waterfall.

STL Ponds and Waterfalls
04-25-2008, 01:18 AM
There is plenty of room for a pond or a nice pondless waterfall with a small stream in my opinion. Your biggest hassle is the gate coming off your deck. Since your gate is right in the middle either shift your stream out and away or put a stepping stone there or even a large sheet of flagstone. Heck it might help to relocate your gate. What's your skill level for building waterfeatures?

jds1469
04-25-2008, 01:32 AM
iv done a few preformed ones before but have not tried forming my own before. the gate thats in the pictures is not really ever used. to almost blocking it and using a stepping stone of some sorts could work. I dont know if anyone has done this but I was really thinking of maybe a pondless and getting some like 3" thick flag stone and putting on top of the normal rock and having you actually walk on the pondless area. does that sound doable?

maybe i should call that guy in atlanta and he can send me his plans for that pond he had on craigslist

jds1469
04-25-2008, 01:38 AM
You need a pondless core drilled boulder or pot. That space is way too small for a standard waterfall. Besides, you will get much better sound with a cored boulder fountain.

I'v seen these on GBTY on HGTV. any clue on where to get these. I dont think I can just walk up to my local garden center and not get a retarted look from the old woman behind the desk

STL Ponds and Waterfalls
04-25-2008, 07:02 PM
[QUOTE=jds1469;2289627]I'v seen these on GBTY on HGTV. any clue on where to get these. I dont think I can just walk up to my local garden center and not get a retarted look from the old woman behind the desk[

Look in the phonebook for companies that do core drilling. Here in St. louis it is going for $50 a foot for the most part. Find out if your BIG natural stone supplier does core drilled boulders. My dist also does core drilled boulders for $50 up to 2ft max, but they are an hour away. PM me your email and I'll get you some ideas for your pondless if you go that route.

jds1469
04-25-2008, 10:40 PM
ponless sounds like the way im gonna have to go. i tried to PM you but it says i do not have permission to do that at this time. My main question about setting up the pondless is what to do with the pump in the winter. im sure my winters are slightly more mild then yours but not buy much. do you just shut it off or do you have to drain it as much as possible?

jds1469
04-27-2008, 09:32 AM
what size pump and hole in the rock am i looking for. id really like atleast a 3.5'- 4' tall rock.

jds1469
05-07-2008, 09:54 PM
aahhh. iv been asking around on the core drilling for 2 weeks now and everyone thinks im nuts for this. is there anyone around the indy area that can help me with this

Venturewest
05-07-2008, 10:22 PM
You should be able to rent a rock/ concrete coring drill with the appropriate sized bit at an equipment rental yard if you want to try it yourself. Ours has everything for about $60 per day.