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HealthTurf
05-06-2008, 09:48 AM
I have a small business here in NC with around 55 weekly mowing accounts and around 45+ spray accounts. I have a really great guy that has worked for me for a while...he's starting to want more $ and I'm wondering what most folks pay? He's basically a crew leader---Thanks in advance...

Charles

BlackCloudDiesel
05-15-2008, 02:25 AM
I start them at $8.00 an hour and give a $1.00hr raise every 365 days.

SuperDuty335
05-15-2008, 08:42 PM
I don't believe in paying crappy wages to those who do good work. When I pay someone I pay them what I think they're worth to me. If your guy cares about what he does and keeps everything running smooth pay him like you appreciate what he does. That's what I do. That's what I expect. That's what I recommend.

Stillwater
05-16-2008, 02:58 AM
I coulden't agree more with superduty335

HealthTurf
05-16-2008, 09:05 AM
I'm currently paying him $11 per hour. He has a 43 minute commute each way and with fuel costs I may raise him to $12 as he's capable of handling the accounts solo when needed. I'm getting Radiation/Chemo so my energy level is lower than normal. (Too many lawn chemicals finally gave me cancer) :cry:

"The chemicals they said were safe in the 80's are killing us in 2008"

joe the lawn guy
05-16-2008, 09:17 AM
sorry to here that. was it durasban ? if that's the spelling ?

HealthTurf
05-16-2008, 11:58 AM
sorry to here that. was it durasban ? if that's the spelling ?

Probably that and lots of others as I don't smoke or drink and eat really healthy. Most of these herbicides/pesticides contain lots of solvents, which just aren't good for you. I was told to get away from all these chemicals back in 1994 but ignored the advice and stayed in the business, looks like I'll permanently be out of it soon.

brian_b
06-11-2008, 05:26 PM
You may want to look at:

http://www.careerinfonet.org/occ_rep.asp?next=occ_rep&Level=&optstatus=011000000&id=1&nodeid=2&stfips=37&jobfam=37&soccode=373019

If he is a "supervisor" try:

http://www.careerinfonet.org/occ_rep.asp?optstatus=011000000&soccode=371012&id=1&nodeid=2&stfips=37&search=Go

brian_b
06-11-2008, 05:28 PM
Best Wishes - will pray for the best.

k911lowe
06-11-2008, 05:30 PM
i start my regularguys at 8.00 an hr and my crew leaders at 12 or 15 depending on experience.he wont do the job.if you hire an 8.00 guy he will be an 8.00 worker.

cpel2004
06-11-2008, 07:31 PM
Its up to you, however if the guy does great work then pay him what he's worth considering your gross and exp etc. Ask him and he will tell you what he wants. If he's exceptional then pay him as such. Outstanding workers who can replace you I would pay at least 15-17 an hour.

TPendagast
06-12-2008, 12:28 AM
health,

Pay him $11 OR a percentage of the lawns, his choice.

let me give you an example, lets say you charge $40 an hour, one lawn takes one hour to drive to, cut, trim blow and reload the truck. So its a $40 lawn, give him $10 for that lawn, with a "deal" that if there is a complaint bout the lawn by the customer, then he has to go back and fix it, ON HIS time.
this will encourage him to do work quicker, but keep the level of quality up or he's just wasting his time, after all he doesnt want to do it TWICE for free.

Comparison, JOSE cuts 10 lawns for $11/hr in 8 hours.
He grosses $88, you gross $400.
At $10 per lawn somehow he magically (it always works this way) fits in 11 lawns in that same 8 hour day.
He now grosses $110 for the same 8 hour day and you grossed $440.
you pay the difference between the $88 he would earn hourly and the $110 he earned through peice work as a "bonus" to his regular pay check
i.e. regular pay $88 plus a $22 performance bonus. This will keep you straight with the Dept of labor.
Works for you, works for him.
with his increased incentive, there will be increased production, you will find you can probably fit your 6 day schedule into 5 days, negating the need for him to drive into work one day, cutting his (and your) gas consumption.

If you do 10 lawns per day with one guy and 6 days of work, there is 60 lawns. To fit them into 5 days, you need him to cut 12 per day.
Thats $120 per day for him or $600 per week.
You dont GROSS anymore money 60 lawns @ $40 is still $2400 but you dont have that extra day of travel.

Now, if you can find 12 MORE lawns? he can work and extra day for another $120 (and gross $720 per week) and you just got $480 extra to bill every week with the same truck, mowers and other equipment (so your revenue increases and your static payments on stuff stays the same)

Everyone wins!

If you just raise his pay, then that's the only thing that happens. Cut him in on some action!
I promise it will work!

NewHorizon's Land
08-04-2008, 08:51 PM
Once someone told me "You cant pay your help what they are worth to you but what they are worth to someone else" In these hard times a couple dollars an hour can make someone stay or leave.

Bladerunner Inc
10-09-2008, 10:34 PM
My Lead guy has been with me for a little over 4 years I started him at 8.00 and now he is at 14.00 I was speaking with a gal at my mower shop who said I should he should be making at least 15.00 I just laughed and said hell I can hardly afford them now!

mudwisr2
10-10-2008, 10:02 AM
I hear you on that. Some people are worth more to me than I can pay them.

ExecutiveLawns
10-10-2008, 10:53 PM
My 2 crew leaders are at $12.00
My laborers are between $9.50-$11.00


If you take care of your guys they will take care of you, your company is only as good as its employees.

openbook
10-11-2008, 02:59 PM
My 2 crew leaders are at $12.00
My laborers are between $9.50-$11.00


If you take care of your guys they will take care of you, your company is only as good as its employees.

Dang that's kind of harsh, the company I work for says they pay the h2b guys 9.50 an hour. The problem with them is they try to run you instead of you running them, I'm constantly chasing after those guy's trying to keep them out of trouble.

ExecutiveLawns
10-11-2008, 04:56 PM
Ok the one guy I have at $9.50 has worked for us for only a couple months now and he came to me asking for $9.00 but i told him ill give him $9.50 to make him feel better. most of the companies around here have there guys at $9-$10hr. One of my drivers and licensed applicators came from one of the larger companies here and he was getting $9.00hr, 3 months later with me he is at $12.00 and next year i dont see a problem having him at $14.00hr