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Gene $immons
05-06-2008, 09:07 PM
I bought 20 fifty pound bags of 17-5-9 today - $352.22

ouch.

milsaps118
05-06-2008, 10:13 PM
Yep... fert prices are up AGAIN!!! I bought 20 bags of Pre-M 19-0-11 at Lesco yesterday to the tune of $330.:cry:

LwnmwrMan22
05-06-2008, 10:43 PM
That's just over $16-17 per bag....

What's the complaint?

I was in Home Depot yesterday and the prices for Scotts for Fert with Halts is $45 +/- and the weed - n - feed is $35 +/-.

What is the price supposed to be?

Gene $immons
05-06-2008, 11:41 PM
That's just over $16-17 per bag....

What's the complaint?

I was in Home Depot yesterday and the prices for Scotts for Fert with Halts is $45 +/- and the weed - n - feed is $35 +/-.

What is the price supposed to be?


Same product last year was 9.95 per bag. So yeah, this is not as good.

ted putnam
05-07-2008, 12:12 AM
Cheap fert price days are over...have been over...since right before Christmas. Did you just crawl out of a cave!:laugh: Just kidding. Couldn't resist.

Gruneich Lawn Care, Inc.
05-07-2008, 12:19 AM
Im paying between 18.95 to 19.19 for 50lbs of dimension 19-0-9

mngrassguy
05-07-2008, 01:21 AM
I got 4 tons of 19-0-0 14.80/bag .10 dimension, have 2 more ordered, same price. 25-0-25 all min was 10.75 last year, 16.50 till June 1. ouch

1998tahoe
05-07-2008, 04:26 PM
I just bouth 15-15-15 for $16.00 a bag now, last year at this time it was $8.00 a bag. In Feburary when I over seeded my yard it was only $11.30 a bag then.

I also bought some 34-0-0 for $12.50 a bag this morning, last May it was $7.80 a bag.

It is like everything else OUTRAGEOUSLY PRICED!!!!

milsaps118
05-07-2008, 04:46 PM
That's just over $16-17 per bag....

What's the complaint?

I was in Home Depot yesterday and the prices for Scotts for Fert with Halts is $45 +/- and the weed - n - feed is $35 +/-.

What is the price supposed to be?

Last year I was paying around $12/bag. I knew prices were going up, but $4 more a bag I wasn't expecting.

milsaps118
05-07-2008, 05:00 PM
I got 4 tons of 19-0-0 14.80/bag .10 dimension, have 2 more ordered, same price. 25-0-25 all min was 10.75 last year, 16.50 till June 1. ouch

Are you getting your 25-0-25 at the Coop off 81? That's where I was getting mine, but not this year. I stopped in there on Monday and ordered a ton thinking it was going to be around the same prices as last year. I thought she screwed up on the price when she told me it came to $700 and change!:cry: So I told her forget it, I'm not paying that much for straight fertilizer and left.

Was at Lesco picking up Pre-M and Tom told me prices are going up AGAIN on May 12th!:cry::cry::cry:

ant
05-07-2008, 05:13 PM
32-3-8 30% PCSCU IS $18.50 PER BAG
24-5-11 50% PCSCU 2% Fe is $18.45 per bag

(wi) Roots
05-07-2008, 06:06 PM
Soil samples of your customers lawns will improve on your return on profit. How, by only giving what each lawn needs according to the soil test. And then, on what recommended rate of application on those need are. When turf is growing at it opptimum range of Ph value, you will not only be spending less of what it needs but also, staying compliant to the law in which regulate your State! It's a prove fact that when your lawn is at it opptinum range a natural minial will then be available for plant use. But, unless you've studied on how this is done, this can become tricky. Rather than get to technical I'll wait for your response!

ted putnam
05-07-2008, 06:23 PM
Got word today from my rep at Lesco/JDL. Fert prices going up Friday.(.20-1.00 per bag. Buy Thursday if you can.

ted putnam
05-07-2008, 06:25 PM
32-3-8 30% PCSCU IS $18.50 PER BAG
24-5-11 50% PCSCU 2% Fe is $18.45 per bag

You're better off than me. 19.61 per bag on both of those products for me! Higher by Friday.

mngrassguy
05-07-2008, 06:31 PM
Are you getting your 25-0-25 at the Coop off 81? That's where I was getting mine, but not this year. I stopped in there on Monday and ordered a ton thinking it was going to be around the same prices as last year. I thought she screwed up on the price when she told me it came to $700 and change!:cry: So I told her forget it, I'm not paying that much for straight fertilizer and left.

Was at Lesco picking up Pre-M and Tom told me prices are going up AGAIN on May 12th!:cry::cry::cry:

Yes it was HC. It's the potash.

Tom says that every time I've talked to him in the last five years

LwnmwrMan22
05-07-2008, 07:03 PM
10-0-20, 65% slow release, 10% iron was $14.25 today. These bags run about 10k sq ft.

This is what my buddy paid for 5 bags for his own yard.

I paid $14.00 even for 6 pallets in early March, then run all chemicals in the liquid form, including Dimension, which is a .24% a.i. at roughly $30 per acre.

If you take the two together, to cover what a 19-0-6 30% slow release, no iron, .10% ai Dimension, I'm paying roughly $25 for the same amount of coverage (15k sq ft).

However, I have different reasons for what I'm doing other than just trying to get preventer down.

americanlawn
05-07-2008, 10:33 PM
$14 per 50 lb bag of 31-3-8 SCU slow release --We ordered 2 more semi loads of this a couple weeks ago cuz our UAP rep said fert was going up another $50 per ton. So far we've received 7 semi loads (154 tons), but our warehouse is pretty full (with trucks, fert, etc). Comment we're getting from customers is, our prices are more resonable than competitors. Now I'm thinking we need to raise prices. We have enough fert to last thru July, but then there's August, September, October, and November......I hope fert prices stabilize and come down in price -- we'll see.

greendoctor
05-08-2008, 05:29 AM
Potassium nitrate $35/bag, was $23 last month
Urea, solution grade $25/bag was $18 last year.

I am still ok because all of my applications are priced at a 30% margin for materials + labor/application time. None of my prices were set anywhere near cost when I first gave out my prices to clients.

Subterfuge
05-10-2008, 07:41 PM
I got 4 tons of 19-0-0 14.80/bag .10 dimension, have 2 more ordered, same price.

Reinders customer! You'll be lucky if you lock in that price on the remaining two if you don't act fast.

alf51175
05-11-2008, 01:16 PM
You can thank China again for the price increase. They are requiring more and willing to pay more for it. Along with rising fuel cost which they are also apart of. Last I had heard the price for a ton of potash was over a $1000/ton.

JFF
05-11-2008, 02:05 PM
Anyone considering a price increase per 1000, or maybe a bump in the charge for the first 5000?

rcreech
05-11-2008, 05:37 PM
From what I am hearing (from very good sources on the ag side) we haven't seen anything yet as far as price increases!

Fert prices are not even close to peaking out!

I am sitting very good for this year and will have quite a bit of carryover to next year as far as my 30% product, but I am thinking about going ahead any buying my Pre for next year RIGHT NOW!

I am calling tomorrow and ordering all my Dimension for next year!

Hate to borrow more money for fert....but it may be one of the best investments we can make right now.

Think about it!

I wish I would have thought to do this a couple months ago, but I was hoping this roller coster was coming to an end....but I think we still have a lot of "clicks" to get to the top yet.

ted putnam
05-11-2008, 11:20 PM
Anyone considering a price increase per 1000, or maybe a bump in the charge for the first 5000?

Not here. I covered myself very well for this year. I can absorb a few substantial "hits" before I begin to squirm. RCreech, if you go ahead as you are saying you'll be playing with the stock market so to speak. It could be a very good gamble... and maybe not. Good Luck whatever you decide.

rcreech
05-11-2008, 11:28 PM
Not here. I covered myself very well for this year. I can absorb a few substantial "hits" before I begin to squirm. RCreech, if you go ahead as you are saying you'll be playing with the stock market so to speak. It could be a very good gamble... and maybe not. Good Luck whatever you decide.

Ted,

I agree a little....but I see fert going up or evening out eventually as I can promise you it will not go down very much! Too much demand from outside the US and they have us by the balls with commodity prices on the ag side.

I just think this may be one way to help reduce the risk and hopefully get a COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE next year.

You are right though it can go either way....but I feel pretty confident that I will atleast get my interest back from the deal.

What do you think? Stupid move or not?

Wonder if anyone is sitting on some stock left over from this spring that they may want to move?

tremor
05-12-2008, 12:49 AM
I've been selling an old regular customer his Anderson's 19-0-6 Dimension for under $16 all spring. He calls the other day for a 20% N summer fert. When he recovered from his heart palpitations I had no trouble convincing him to make another round of Dimension.

Ric
05-12-2008, 10:15 AM
Yo

America is now # 3 in Fertilizer usage. It is Brazil and China that is buying up all the Fert. I tried to Buy some Mg the other day and was told China has it all now. Potash has been in short supply. I am not only worried about Price, But just being able to get Product.

rcreech
05-12-2008, 09:12 PM
Yo

America is now # 3 in Fertilizer usage. It is Brazil and China that is buying up all the Fert. I tried to Buy some Mg the other day and was told China has it all now. Potash has been in short supply. I am not only worried about Price, But just being able to get Product.


You are right!

People keep blaming ethanol for the increase in fert....and technically it doesn't even have anything to do with it. It is all about the GLOBAL market now.

We may have a long road ahead of us as LCO's as we are going to have to keep raising prices to make anything....and most homeowners can only take so much. Especailly if they are paying $4.00 for gas, $3.00 for Milk and $2.00 for a dozen of eggs.

The days of cheap anything are over!

lawn king
05-12-2008, 09:56 PM
Fert prices are going to rise right along with diesel as they are strongly related!

rcreech
05-12-2008, 10:05 PM
Fert prices are going to rise right along with diesel as they are strongly related!


Well.....you are somewhat correct, but technically there is no "direct" relation to diesel!

Nitrogen is derived from natural gas (if that is what you mean)....but Phos and Potassium are not related in any way and they are going up higher and quicker then anything!

I wish we would have seen this coming as we could have said the heck with lawncare and made millions playing the market! :laugh:

Hogjaw
05-13-2008, 09:52 PM
In Northeast Arkansas, bulk 13-13-13 and DAP both $1,000.00 per ton, and urea $865.00. Didn't ask about the ammonium sulfate.

pinto n mwr
05-13-2008, 10:45 PM
Personally I think it is a scam....

Take Lesco/JDL for example...

I do not do the EOP so I am required to get the trusty 30 day quote...

First quote of the year was for 17.51/bag 19-0-6
Second quote, the one when I started to buy was 15.95 19-0-6
Now my price is 14.33/bag, a whopping .02 more than last year.