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jmm46
05-16-2008, 08:57 AM
Is there any advantage with boomless spray nozzle over a boom atv sprayer??

I am looking into the Fimco ATV sprayer, 25 gallon either 2.1 GPM, 60 PSI(140 inch) or 3.8 GPM, 45 PSI(140 inch) or the NorthStar ATV Sprayer with Boom-less Spray System - 26 Gallon, 4 GPM, 12 Volt

Do any of you have an experience in either of these units??

Ric
05-16-2008, 11:53 AM
Is there any advantage with boomless spray nozzle over a boom atv sprayer??

I am looking into the Fimco ATV sprayer, 25 gallon either 2.1 GPM, 60 PSI(140 inch) or 3.8 GPM, 45 PSI(140 inch) or the NorthStar ATV Sprayer with Boom-less Spray System - 26 Gallon, 4 GPM, 12 Volt

Do any of you have an experience in either of these units??

Jmm

I was on the Internet last night looking at the same sprayers as you. Fact is I have some serious questions about calibration myself and will call Tee Jet today. But IMHO Booms are more accurate and have less over spray or drift than boomless. I only want the Boom and not the spray tank or pump. The 140" with Check valves is only $ 250.00 and I couldn't build it for that price. The 140" without check valves is $ 190.00. I am looking at using a Gas powered pump and different nozzles on my Gator. I have a Boomless set up on it now.

jmm46
05-16-2008, 01:00 PM
Jmm

I was on the Internet last night looking at the same sprayers as you. Fact is I have some serious questions about calibration myself and will call Tee Jet today. But IMHO Booms are more accurate and have less over spray or drift than boomless. I only want the Boom and not the spray tank or pump. The 140" with Check valves is only $ 250.00 and I couldn't build it for that price. The 140" without check valves is $ 190.00. I am looking at using a Gas powered pump and different nozzles on my Gator. I have a Boomless set up on it now.

What do you manly use it for?

Ric
05-16-2008, 04:23 PM
What do you manly use it for?

JMM

The Boom sprayer is used on Pasture management or utility turf management. I am researching Boom spraying at the present time because of a Interest in a Nitch Market other than lawns. Drift and off target application are a major concerns in this nitch market I am researching...... A fog in 3 MPH wind can drift 3 miles. A Mist can go a mile. a Light rain type spray can go 400 yards, all in a 3 MPH wind. Just since my first post to this thread I am finding out how much I don't know about Boom Spraying. To correctly do the Nitch Market I am researching, No off target application will not be tolerated unlike Pastures where there is no big problem.

AmGreen
05-16-2008, 06:28 PM
I've got a boom set up on my zero turn - works great. It's set approx. 18 inches off the ground with 10 110 degree Tee Jet nozzles. The set up is very similar to the Cub Cadet sit down ride on spray rig - has three seperate flow valves for controling the sections on the 110" boom. Also has 55' of hose for spraying in ditches that my zero turn will not go as well as in back yards where I can't get through gates. I simply calibrated mine by doing test runs in a 2 acre lot - it's a 3.8 GPM at 45 PSI pump with a 26 gallon tank mounted above the engine (quite a bit of fabricating). I've had a lot of people look in awe and tell me I should patent it (mostly competitors). I don't seem to get a lot of drift from it, but I am thinking of changing to a larger droplet nozzle to help decrease that possibility even more. I just simply don't spray when it's at all breezy. It seems to be much more efficient then walking a lawn with 400 ft of hose from a truck parked at the street. You just have to be careful with crossing over your previous path - that's why spray tracker is essential. I would recommend adding an agitator to it as some products you may spray will require that - as well as going with the higher GPM as a lower GPM will limit your usage (from what I've heard) and products you can spray - not to mention a higher PSI may allow for more drift. I had the same pump and tank set up on a boomless sprayer last year and it worked well, but I would get scared when spraying around beds and what not. With my set up I'm spraying anywhere from 1-1.5 gallons per 1000sf, dependant upon ground speed.
PS. It's actually the Northstar sprayer that you refered to - however I think they advertise it as being 4 GPM's but I looked on the pump and it's actually 3.8 - could be wrong though....

cantoo
05-16-2008, 09:40 PM
jmm46, ric and I discussed this in a thread last year. I built a boomless unit and tested it out. It now sits in my barn gathering dust. Very inaccurate for broadleaf control. I mounted mine on a Steiner and due to the narrow width of the tractor everytime I went over an unlevel section of lawn it would either spray real wide or real narrow. I tried it out on parking lots using roundup and had the same results. Drive over a stone with one wheel and the high side would spray 30' wide and other side 5'. Got tired of playing with it and went back to my booms. When I had time I will build another set of wider booms for big properties.

420deere
05-16-2008, 10:12 PM
AmGreen-How do you control your speed on the Z turn?

americanlawn
05-16-2008, 10:59 PM
Hypro boomless nozzles rule.

Is there any advantage with boomless spray nozzle over a boom atv sprayer??

I am looking into the Fimco ATV sprayer, 25 gallon either 2.1 GPM, 60 PSI(140 inch) or 3.8 GPM, 45 PSI(140 inch) or the NorthStar ATV Sprayer with Boom-less Spray System - 26 Gallon, 4 GPM, 12 Volt

Do any of you have an experience in either of these units??

ATVracer
05-16-2008, 11:11 PM
AmGreen-How do you control your speed on the Z turn?


I have a similar setup. Whatever speed you decide to spray at, mark it on your throttle area somewhere and use the same speed. The only time I adjust engine speed is going down or up hills. If you mix at the halfway point of the chemical(i.e. 1.1-1.5 oz/k use 1.3oz) a teeny bit slower or faster on the hills won't matter much.

hmartin
05-17-2008, 12:06 AM
AmGreen-How do you control your speed on the Z turn?

I have a JD 757 with a 25 gallon tank and a 120" boom. I welded a 1/2 inch nut on edge on a small plate about 1" x 2". I bolted this small plate in front my left handle. I screwed a 5" long bolt through the 1/2" nut to create a stop for the steering handle. I jammed two nuts on the 1/2" bolt so that the bolt can be screwed into the proper depth when needed. I have bolts set up for 20, 30, and 50 gpa. You only need to do one side. When you get through spraying, just loosen the bolt and go as fast as you want. I use Hypro Ultra Low Drift 110 degree nozzles. When compared to nozzles of a similar size, Hypro ULD have the least drift.

Boomless nozzles are very inaccurate when compared to a boom setup.

cantoo
05-17-2008, 12:13 AM
Americanlawn, got any pics of the unit you have for boomless nozzles?
Handheld or machine?

humble1
05-17-2008, 12:39 AM
AmGreen-How do you control your speed on the Z turn?

i use gps on mine

greendoctor
05-17-2008, 02:23 AM
For applications where I need to worry more about drift than coverage, the AI series of nozzles are good. They put out a 110 fan with air mixed into the spray. If you are using enough nonionic surfactant the spray is almost like a foam. Boom height is also an important factor as well. 80 nozzles and floodjet tips force you to keep the boom high off the turf in order to get uniform coverage across the entire length of the boom. I keep my walking boom at no more than 16" off the turf. I am usually spraying metsulfuron, Image or 2,4-D right next to beds.

GTP
05-17-2008, 08:08 AM
The Fimco boom setup is very easy to control once you find the right tips that match application rate in first gear. This is how I do everything because my average lawn size is so big. I think the booms help you with visual reference for making your passes if you are not using a dye.

CHARLES CUE
05-18-2008, 05:41 PM
JMM

The Boom sprayer is used on Pasture management or utility turf management. I am researching Boom spraying at the present time because of a Interest in a Nitch Market other than lawns. Drift and off target application are a major concerns in this nitch market I am researching...... A fog in 3 MPH wind can drift 3 miles. A Mist can go a mile. a Light rain type spray can go 400 yards, all in a 3 MPH wind. Just since my first post to this thread I am finding out how much I don't know about Boom Spraying. To correctly do the Nitch Market I am researching, No off target application will not be tolerated unlike Pastures where there is no big problem.

Hey Ric
look at teejets TTI nozzles very course work good like using a chemlawn gun.Just as long as not going to use a contact herbicide. There on page 41 of sprayer specialties catalog they have nicer booms to than filmco
hope this helps
Charles Cue

Terraformer
05-19-2008, 12:08 AM
I have both FIMCO units (140 inch boom w/TeeJet and the Hypro Boomless). Each is fed by a 25 gallon tank and a 3.8 GPM pump. Once you calibrate and adjust the patterns, both work well. The Boomless setup is working awesome for post emergent control. No real problem with drift since the droplets are pretty course. I run them from a Polaris Sportsman X2 (2 up ATV w/dump bed). It's a big ATV.

Turbodrop
06-29-2010, 05:48 PM
You should look into Greenleaf Turbodrops, they have a air injected boomless nozzle and drift reduction nozzles for your boom type sprayer. Boomless nozzles are ok with roundup or chemicals that are not coverage critical.

Turbodrop
06-29-2010, 06:07 PM
You should look into airmix nozzles from greenleaf. They will elinimate drift and allow high pressure.