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4 seasons lawn&land
05-18-2008, 02:34 PM
I was planning on buying a cheap pressure washer to clean the equipment and stuff but am wondering if I got one of the large commercial ones, if I can make money with it. Do any of you guys see or do alot of washing work?

jkilov
05-18-2008, 04:24 PM
Not enough demand here.

As for washing equipment it's great on decks but a hazard for electrical components and rubber hoses.

4 seasons lawn&land
05-18-2008, 07:58 PM
i thought that there were companies designated specifically to commercial washing.

4 seasons lawn&land
05-18-2008, 08:20 PM
This thread was moved here, I never noticed this section before. Seems like it may be a good service to offer. I need to know what I should have for washing houses, decks, drives etc. Do you have to have a heated one? How much do you have to spend to offer commercial washing?

GrassmasterB
05-18-2008, 10:28 PM
I was planning on buying a cheap pressure washer to clean the equipment and stuff but am wondering if I got one of the large commercial ones, if I can make money with it. Do any of you guys see or do alot of washing work?

there's definately money to be made with pressure washing. since you're already doing lawns, you have a good customer base to start with, they already know you and the quality of work you do. alot of them will want pressure washing. as far as pressure washers, it all depends on what you plan on cleaning. i only pressure wash drives, sidewalks, brick retaining walls, and other stuff like that. i stay away from houses and wood decks. so i currently use a 3500psi @ 4gpm belt driven pressure washer w/ a 20'' surface cleaner. the gpm is the most important. you need a minimum of 4gpm to run most attachments and the more gpm the faster it will clean. to get started a gear driven 4gpm pressure washer will be around $1000. a belt driven is around $1500 but it will last longer. a good surface cleaner will run about $3-400, not needed, but it will cut your cleaning times down by about 75%. i have actually thought about making the transition into only doing pressure washing, its easy work most of the time, but with the dry springs we keep having i'm worried about water restrictions.

Barry M
05-19-2008, 12:14 AM
I have a good pressure washing customer base maybe I should offer to mow and keep up thier lawns too. What equipment do I need?

Don M.
05-19-2008, 01:20 AM
I have a good pressure washing customer base maybe I should offer to mow and keep up thier lawns too. What equipment do I need?

A Murray 16" lawn mower and one of the green weedeater from Wally world will go along way Barry.

Just remember, to mow and weedeat the going rate is 12.50 per 10,000 sq ft.

4 seasons lawn&land
05-19-2008, 09:56 AM
A Murray 16" lawn mower and one of the green weedeater from Wally world will go along way Barry.

Just remember, to mow and weedeat the going rate is 12.50 per 10,000 sq ft.



+1, some good info!

Don M.
05-19-2008, 07:54 PM
+1, some good info!

:)

I'm just joking you know.

You guys get it all the time, us pressure washing guys get it all the time. I dont know why Lawn care guys cant give pw leads to pw companies and vice versa. Why try and do everything.

We got one of our pw brothers doing the same thing. He will wash anything and everything god love him. Know he is getting into parking lot striping. I just dont get it.:hammerhead:

4 seasons lawn&land
05-19-2008, 08:49 PM
:)

I'm just joking you know.

You guys get it all the time, us pressure washing guys get it all the time. I dont know why Lawn care guys cant give pw leads to pw companies and vice versa. Why try and do everything.

We got one of our pw brothers doing the same thing. He will wash anything and everything god love him. Know he is getting into parking lot striping. I just dont get it.:hammerhead:



more money? I suspect this has something to do with it, and yes i know you were kidding. Anyway, whats wrong with doing it all? I mean in terms of lawn care/landscaping/property management. I mean, if your mowing lawns and trying to get work fixing peoples cars while your there then ya, thats going too far but, mowing, mulching, edging, leaf cleaning, power washing, power brooming, its all the same.


What is parking lot stripping? Isnt that illegal?

FCPWLLC
05-21-2008, 08:36 AM
more money? I suspect this has something to do with it, and yes i know you were kidding. Anyway, whats wrong with doing it all? I mean in terms of lawn care/landscaping/property management. I mean, if your mowing lawns and trying to get work fixing peoples cars while your there then ya, thats going too far but, mowing, mulching, edging, leaf cleaning, power washing, power brooming, its all the same.


What is parking lot stripping? Isnt that illegal?

That is where you are wrong. It isn't the same. Pricing is different. Methods are different. HUGE learning curve. This isn't as simple as buying a pressure washer.

4 seasons lawn&land
05-21-2008, 08:23 PM
i guess i have no idea then. give me an example of what could possible be so hard about pressure washing. Anything besides some shi t can break if you spray it to hard.

FCPWLLC
05-22-2008, 07:29 AM
The hard thing will be trying to do it without learning first. I clean 3 story Vinyl Homes in an hour and never use a ladder. Without know how, you might takes 6+ hours to do the same using ladders and placing yourself in dangerous situations. Also, because I can do in an hour what other do in 6, I am able to be competitive with pricing. You will admit that you could't make $$ if charging Market price $30/lawn if you were doing them all with 20" push mowers. Same with washing without understanding the full picture. You'll lose money trying to do it with wrong equipment or slow methods.

Anyhow, I do see why you would want to do it all and make more money. Just be sure you do your homework too. try http://www.ptstate.com for more focused pressure washing info.

I am guilty of doing it all too. LOL I had an LCO a few years back and sold it with accounts. My old customers have been wanting me back so Yesterday I bought a few new toys for a starter kit....

I'll be looking for a 36 inch walk behind today in between house washes.

4 seasons lawn&land
05-22-2008, 09:55 PM
thanks for the help. good luck w/ the lawns. Nice mower!... nice bike too.

4 seasons lawn&land
05-22-2008, 10:08 PM
hey thats a good site, just joined

MOW PRO LAWN SERVICE
05-23-2008, 07:55 AM
Got a scag 48 for sale mike.....

yard_smart
05-28-2008, 10:16 PM
Got a scag 48 for sale mike.....

Mike already bought one but i too do both (its okay its okay i did my home work )

how much you asking . . .give me a call

02DURAMAX
06-19-2008, 03:59 AM
The hard thing will be trying to do it without learning first. I clean 3 story Vinyl Homes in an hour and never use a ladder. Without know how, you might takes 6+ hours to do the same using ladders and placing yourself in dangerous situations. Also, because I can do in an hour what other do in 6, I am able to be competitive with pricing. You will admit that you could't make $$ if charging Market price $30/lawn if you were doing them all with 20" push mowers. Same with washing without understanding the full picture. You'll lose money trying to do it with wrong equipment or slow methods.

Anyhow, I do see why you would want to do it all and make more money. Just be sure you do your homework too. try http://www.ptstate.com for more focused pressure washing info.

I am guilty of doing it all too. LOL I had an LCO a few years back and sold it with accounts. My old customers have been wanting me back so Yesterday I bought a few new toys for a starter kit....

I'll be looking for a 36 inch walk behind today in between house washes.

Your Driveway Is dirty..:nono:

FCPWLLC
06-19-2008, 07:28 AM
Your Driveway Is dirty..:nono:

LOL... That darn mower is leaving tire marks everywhere. I am guilty of not cleaning mine as often as I should.

nitro121
06-19-2008, 07:37 AM
Where you able to check out my PM? Let me know.

vr
Gary

nitro121
06-19-2008, 07:45 AM
Mike has offered to help before with my venture in to softwashing. I have the business license and ordered the business cards. I'm actually going to start the business w/ my sister. She's on hard times right now and is looking for a part time job....so I figure why not invest in this.....my house, mothers', in-laws all need their houses cleaned right now. They are waiting for me instead of calling the pressure washing guy we usually use.

So I'm going to invest in a small system to get going and to offer cleaning to my grass customers.

Anyway....I'm probably going to get the Delevan pump from PressureTek (not sure if the chemical bandit is needed yet...I'll try to stick to 1 story houses).

I have the recipe for Apple Sauce for roof cleaning. I just need info on tanks size, how many, tools needed to be on the truck at all times, tips, etc..

I plan on getting a little 4 x 8 trailer to haul it on. Thanks for any help.

Do I need a generator to power the Delevan pump (or tap in to the trucks power)?? I saw an air compressor on one guys set up....what is that needed for?

Gary

yard_smart
06-19-2008, 09:49 AM
here is my roof cleaning set up . . . . tank/pump/battery :)

nitro121
06-19-2008, 09:59 AM
So you just use a battery....then charge it every so often?

How much did your small system cost? (in anther top thread here a guy was just telling another member that 2 grand wouldn't get a system together)

Do you use a Delevan Pump?

What size is your tank? How many gallons of chems to clean a roof?...and a house? 50 gallon tank enough?

Should I have 3 tanks? 1 for water, 1 for roof chem, 1 for siding chem?

I see you have 3 business's...that is what I'm doing. I have Just Grass, my sister will run/try to expand Softwashing Specialists (she doesn't know it yet...I'm going to surprise her....we split everything, she does the work, I provide the equipment....better than her working part time)....and I'd like to do a sealcoating business too. I HAVE to seal my 600 ft driveway this year....so I'm going to offer that to my customers.

Do you find having 3 separate businesses is better or more of a headache?

Thanks for the help guys. I'm probably going to order the pump this weekend.

nitro121
06-20-2008, 10:11 AM
I can tell by the boards. On the grass forum...guys reply in 5 min. The powerwashing board....they must be out working and making money. :clapping: Because you aren't getting a reply for 24 - 48 hours. Sweet.

Peace,
Gary

yard_smart
06-20-2008, 04:12 PM
hey man sorry been busy if ya need anything give me a call

mikewhit1010
06-20-2008, 05:40 PM
I guess I need to chime in. I agree with everyone on this thread. Both LCO and PW companys have a lot of good points of why not to venture over to other things other then their main service. I have tried and looked for someone to pass referals to. What normally ends up happening is they make me look like a clown when my client tries to call them and they never call back or they think it is a one way relationship where i am only supposed to give them jobs because they are doing me a favor.

You PW guys seem to talk down to us LCO guys. you guys started at some point small just like we did doing lawns. It is called a learning curve. Why cant we just start small and see what happens. Like I said I would love to out source this and get a percentage or even get referrals for my work but for some reason in my market that never happens. Most of us own PW for our equipment or for clean ups so why not offer the service. I do a lot of sod instals and the concrete is covered with mud afterwards. Why cant I offer thtis service.

That being said I would be happy for any of you guys to get into the lawn care business. I think it is hard work for the money but there is money in it. I think you guys have to know a lot and I admire that but at the same time it is not a skill only a small percentage understands. It can be learned.

I have only seen one true PW truck in my area in the last year. 1. Why wouldnt I want to get into this business. I am pretty sure we are all in business for $$$ and for the freedom of working for ourselves. I know my lawn care business starts to die out in OCT and water restrictions are over then so it would be a good winter business for me.

Sorry for the long post but forums like this that are linked to a lawnsite typically has a lot of LCO replying on them. We all just want to do it right.

Good luck to you guys this season.

CCPC
06-20-2008, 06:23 PM
I guess I need to chime in. I agree with everyone on this thread. Both LCO and PW companys have a lot of good points of why not to venture over to other things other then their main service. I have tried and looked for someone to pass referals to. What normally ends up happening is they make me look like a clown when my client tries to call them and they never call back or they think it is a one way relationship where i am only supposed to give them jobs because they are doing me a favor.

You PW guys seem to talk down to us LCO guys. you guys started at some point small just like we did doing lawns. It is called a learning curve. Why cant we just start small and see what happens. Like I said I would love to out source this and get a percentage or even get referrals for my work but for some reason in my market that never happens. Most of us own PW for our equipment or for clean ups so why not offer the service. I do a lot of sod instals and the concrete is covered with mud afterwards. Why cant I offer thtis service.

That being said I would be happy for any of you guys to get into the lawn care business. I think it is hard work for the money but there is money in it. I think you guys have to know a lot and I admire that but at the same time it is not a skill only a small percentage understands. It can be learned.

I have only seen one true PW truck in my area in the last year. 1. Why wouldnt I want to get into this business. I am pretty sure we are all in business for $$$ and for the freedom of working for ourselves. I know my lawn care business starts to die out in OCT and water restrictions are over then so it would be a good winter business for me.

Sorry for the long post but forums like this that are linked to a lawnsite typically has a lot of LCO replying on them. We all just want to do it right.

Good luck to you guys this season.

I think one of the reason that professionals in the pressure washing trades get so hot and bothered is because of the lack of respect that this trade gets from so many other trades that offer pressure washing services as a sideline, without so much as a clue of knowing what they are doing.
I'm not sure where so many people form other trades have gotten the notion that all you need to do is go to HD and by a pressure washer, and slap some lettering on your trailer, and bam! You can offer pressure washing.
I've seen irrigation, plumbing, handyman, lawn services, roofers, you name it offering pressure washing services, and most do nothing more than to give the trade a bad reputation by doing very poor work, and often damaging property at the same time. This hurts our trade.
I'm all for lawn companies or anyone else getting into the pressure washing field as long as they know what they are doing, and are offering quality work, and not low-balling house washes for $99 when they should be selling them for $300-$400.
The other thing to keep in mind is that most of the horror stories that I here from customers who hired some other tradesman to wash there house, are usually lawn guys. I'm not saying that there are no lawn guys that offer a good pressure washing service, but more often than not, they don't know what they are doing, and end up damaging property.

mikewhit1010
06-20-2008, 10:56 PM
Ahahaha here we go again lance...JK

I agree with you 100% and me and you figured that out in the other forum.....

I think the people here though are trying to learn so they dont damage the property. I was unaware of the some of the stuff you can do to a house just be PW it. That is why I am starting my business with concrete first and then when I have enough knowledge I will move on. I know that I wont do any job under $125 because I understand how bad it sucks to low ball and end up working for free. The good thing about lawn guys who are legit are that we know what we have to make an hour and we dont budge from that.

Good luck to you guys

FCPWLLC
06-21-2008, 07:41 AM
Ahahaha here we go again lance...JK

I agree with you 100% and me and you figured that out in the other forum.....

I think the people here though are trying to learn so they dont damage the property. I was unaware of the some of the stuff you can do to a house just be PW it. That is why I am starting my business with concrete first and then when I have enough knowledge I will move on. I know that I wont do any job under $125 because I understand how bad it sucks to low ball and end up working for free. The good thing about lawn guys who are legit are that we know what we have to make an hour and we dont budge from that.

Good luck to you guys


Not to stir the pot even further.... But.... Sometimes this IS the problem. The largest LCO's around here are working on small margins. At best, $40/man hour. Pricing Pressure washing at those rates is low-balling. This is the biggest reason I get so bent when talking to a customer and find that the Lawn Service quoted the job at a fourth of my bid. First, they didn't know proper methods and second priced it the same as a lawn mowing. Could I be profitable at $40/man hour? Yes. Is it enough? NO! The difference is that pricing for lawns that repeat very 7-10 days is based on volume. A customer is worth more. When washing a house, it gets done once yearly. If you sell a house wash based on lawn pricing then you will HAVE to find more houses to do each week to make any kind of money.

Grits
06-23-2008, 09:48 PM
Not to stir the pot even further.... But.... Sometimes this IS the problem. The largest LCO's around here are working on small margins. At best, $40/man hour. Pricing Pressure washing at those rates is low-balling. This is the biggest reason I get so bent when talking to a customer and find that the Lawn Service quoted the job at a fourth of my bid. First, they didn't know proper methods and second priced it the same as a lawn mowing. Could I be profitable at $40/man hour? Yes. Is it enough? NO! The difference is that pricing for lawns that repeat very 7-10 days is based on volume. A customer is worth more. When washing a house, it gets done once yearly. If you sell a house wash based on lawn pricing then you will HAVE to find more houses to do each week to make any kind of money.

Very good point, Michael. This is exactly what lco's need to understand when pricing pwing.

mikewhit1010
06-24-2008, 10:28 AM
Not to stir the pot even further.... But.... Sometimes this IS the problem. The largest LCO's around here are working on small margins. At best, $40/man hour. Pricing Pressure washing at those rates is low-balling. This is the biggest reason I get so bent when talking to a customer and find that the Lawn Service quoted the job at a fourth of my bid. First, they didn't know proper methods and second priced it the same as a lawn mowing. Could I be profitable at $40/man hour? Yes. Is it enough? NO! The difference is that pricing for lawns that repeat very 7-10 days is based on volume. A customer is worth more. When washing a house, it gets done once yearly. If you sell a house wash based on lawn pricing then you will HAVE to find more houses to do each week to make any kind of money.

Im not saying price it like we would lawn care because it isnt lawn care. I mean not afraid to stand by our price that we quote. I spoke with a PW the other day and asked him why he hated lawn care guys. He says he doesnt hate us but hates it when he loses jobs to us. I agree that is why you are frustrated but then again the people who stick around are the people who price things correctly and run a good business. We deal with people every day offering cuts at low prices. Yea we get mad but they wont be around. Same thing with lawn care companies who offer this service and dont charge enough.

yard_smart
06-24-2008, 10:40 AM
but in the mean time those hacks that aren't going to be around next year KILL the market and drive down the price of power washing . . .you might say ya but they won't be around to do it next year and your right but some other hack will be!

mikewhit1010
06-24-2008, 10:48 AM
I agree but that is the nature of the beast. I am saying when guys like myself ask for advice or support on what I consider a pretty professional website I expect people to respect what I am trying to do. I guess PW never had a learning curve or never stared from nothing. I guess all you guys where born with vast amounts of knowledge and tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment. Thanks for the ones who have given insight. I am still not sure about what unit I am thinking about purchasing but I am thinking about an electric plug in to my car to save on gas I think the PSI is 500 and the GPM is less then .5. I am going to use Ivory hand soap for my chemicals and charge $10 per 1000 sqft. Ha haha just kidding guys. Someone will take this serious Im sure. Have a good rest of your week.

yard_smart
06-24-2008, 12:34 PM
i didn't mean to ome across bold. . . i was just saying why us pw hate seeing guys lowball no matter if it be painters lco or even just a pw company low balling is low balling


as far as help is concerned . . . go to ptstate.com and read read read


to start of just doing resi work you can get in a decent set up for like 4 g's

mikewhit1010
06-24-2008, 12:49 PM
i didn't mean to ome across bold. . . i was just saying why us pw hate seeing guys lowball no matter if it be painters lco or even just a pw company low balling is low balling


as far as help is concerned . . . go to ptstate.com and read read read


to start of just doing resi work you can get in a decent set up for like 4 g's

Thank you I will take a look. Also do you have a recomended system at that price.

FCPWLLC
06-24-2008, 04:18 PM
Thank you I will take a look. Also do you have a recomended system at that price.

Here is where you want to be looking for equipment... http://www.pressuretek.com

Bob will hook you up with what you need and not sell you what you don't need.

DAFFMOBILEWASH
06-25-2008, 11:44 PM
Personally I love the fly by nighters. They give me lots of work. Nothing better than using allum brightener an a window frame in the direct sunlight at pure strength. Applied with a chemicial sprayer. Can you say "That will leave a mark!!!"

As for how much work can you get???? The issue should be proffit margins rater than working for nothing!!!!!!

DAFF